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Surgery => Surgery Preparation => Topic started by: crossfit99 on February 20, 2012, 03:17:40 PM

Title: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on February 20, 2012, 03:17:40 PM
And now the nerves are setting it! lol.. I have a little over two weeks (March 8th, 9:45am) and the anxiety is rising. I am an anxious person as it is, but I have never been under GA and that's honestly the part that scares me the most.

I got the Dr. I wanted at the price I wanted, so that part is all good, its just the damn GA that scares me! Oh well, I am sure I will be fine and I sure can't wait to get on the other side. It's been a long time coming, can't wait!

Anyone have any advice for pre-op stuff? I've seen some people take some sort of vitamins etc.. Any advice would be appreciated! -- I'll post some before/after photos when I am all done.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: zm on February 21, 2012, 05:19:26 AM
I'm in the same boat as you mate except i'm 5 days before you.  Thinking about it makes me feel sick at times..lol.

just can't wait for the day to come and go...
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on February 21, 2012, 10:45:11 AM
I'm in the same boat as you mate except i'm 5 days before you.  Thinking about it makes me feel sick at times..lol.

just can't wait for the day to come and go...


Lol I hear ya!!


Can't wait to get this done and over!!

Wheres your doc located?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on February 21, 2012, 01:28:09 PM
I know how you feel with the nerves building up and everything!  I had my surgery almost 6 weeks ago (this upcoming Thursday), and I too was more concerned about the GA than anything else.  It was all for nothing though.  The anesthetist was extremely skilled, and as long as you follow your pre op instructions and answer all of the questions they ask completely honestly, you should have no worries.  They take into consideration the last time you ate or drank anything, as well as any medications you may be on.  I was actually told to stop taking vitamins even about a week or two before the surgery.  I guess they want to be absolutely sure any of that is out of your system so it doesn't cause any reactions to what ever they may give you.  Once the day finally arrives, things will go surprisingly quickly!  The hardest part is hoping they thread the IV needle easily.  Once that's in, you will be good as gold.  It will seem like the blink of an eye, and it will be all done with!  I read up on the surgery plenty before hand, and I was still really nervous though, so it comes with the territory.  You'll do great, fear not!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on February 21, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
I know how you feel with the nerves building up and everything!  I had my surgery almost 6 weeks ago (this upcoming Thursday), and I too was more concerned about the GA than anything else.  It was all for nothing though.  The anesthetist was extremely skilled, and as long as you follow your pre op instructions and answer all of the questions they ask completely honestly, you should have no worries.  They take into consideration the last time you ate or drank anything, as well as any medications you may be on.  I was actually told to stop taking vitamins even about a week or two before the surgery.  I guess they want to be absolutely sure any of that is out of your system so it doesn't cause any reactions to what ever they may give you.  Once the day finally arrives, things will go surprisingly quickly!  The hardest part is hoping they thread the IV needle easily.  Once that's in, you will be good as gold.  It will seem like the blink of an eye, and it will be all done with!  I read up on the surgery plenty before hand, and I was still really nervous though, so it comes with the territory.  You'll do great, fear not!


Thanks a lot man! Just playing the waiting game lol.

The GA and (now) the drains are what's driving me up the wall. Surgery is on a Thurs, and I fully anticipated going back to work on Monday. Not sure how long the drains stay in, but I have read that some people aren't allowed to really leave the house do to risk of infection. I am in no position to miss anymore than a couple days of work. I will find out at my pre-op this thursday I suppose, but dreading the drains for SURE lol
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: blackchevy on February 21, 2012, 03:32:09 PM
And now the nerves are setting it! lol.. I have a little over two weeks (March 8th, 9:45am) and the anxiety is rising. I am an anxious person as it is, but I have never been under GA and that's honestly the part that scares me the most.

I got the Dr. I wanted at the price I wanted, so that part is all good, its just the damn GA that scares me! Oh well, I am sure I will be fine and I sure can't wait to get on the other side. It's been a long time coming, can't wait!

Anyone have any advice for pre-op stuff? I've seen some people take some sort of vitamins etc.. Any advice would be appreciated! -- I'll post some before/after photos when I am all done.


crossfit good luck man, I'm one week till surgery and am pretty nervous as well. I've been under GA once when i had my wisdom teeth pulled out but i woke up 3 times during that though which was awkward lol. good to see guys getting surgery around my date, hopefully we'll be able to help each other pre-post op.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on February 21, 2012, 04:08:42 PM
Nice! Where are you having the surgery done at? Lipo/excision?

Yea, we will def all be gimpin' around together for a week or two lol
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: blackchevy on February 21, 2012, 04:32:11 PM
Nice! Where are you having the surgery done at? Lipo/excision?

Yea, we will def all be gimpin' around together for a week or two lol

lol yeah, I'm having the surgery in central florida (orlando-Dr. Pope), its a 3 hour drive from where i live but I'm sure it'll be worth it once everything is complete.

he'll be doing both lipo and the excision, i think my case is kind of mild, i have pretty puffy nipples and some fat.

what about you?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on February 21, 2012, 04:42:23 PM
Very cool.

Doing it here in so cal, Dr Fred Corbin. Doing both excision and lipo, I wouldn't consider my case mild; however some may. I actually have a couple photos up in the User Photo section.


Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: blackchevy on February 21, 2012, 05:08:19 PM
just checked them out, you look good with a shirt on, i wouldn't be able to wear something like that though but i can see when its a problem once the shirt comes off.

ill probably try to post up some pictures sometime after surgery.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on February 21, 2012, 08:31:13 PM
just checked them out, you look good with a shirt on, i wouldn't be able to wear something like that though but i can see when its a problem once the shirt comes off.

ill probably try to post up some pictures sometime after surgery.

Yea, thats without a doubt the best it looks.. Most the time I am self conscious as with a reg t shirt, I wear more sweatshirts than anything.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on February 21, 2012, 10:24:42 PM
Mine is in about 5 weeks. Nervous, but excited too. I am not going under fully, just the whole twilight thing which is more kind of worrisome because I want to be OUT. But then again - no assisted breathing crap either.  I kind of wish I could have got some benzos for the next month to mellow me out before the surgery (for my wife too). Mine is a little more complicated because I have decided to toss in a little laser lipo under my neck, as long as he me on the table. Hard to hide that work.


Both pre and post opp instructions on meds and supplements have been sent - no aspirin or Ibuprofen. But also no vitamin E or fish oil. Bunch of other stuff too not to take before and after for a while.   
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on February 21, 2012, 10:34:20 PM
Mine is in about 5 weeks. Nervous, but excited too. I am not going under fully, just the whole twilight thing which is more kind of worrisome because I want to be OUT. But then again - no assisted breathing crap either.  I kind of wish I could have got some benzos for the next month to mellow me out before the surgery (for my wife too). Mine is a little more complicated because I have decided to toss in a little laser lipo under my neck, as long as he me on the table. Hard to hide that work.


Both pre and post opp instructions on meds and supplements have been sent - no aspirin or Ibuprofen. But also no vitamin E or fish oil. Bunch of other stuff too not to take before and after for a while.  

right on! In regards to the benzo's, you could probably get some valium or something pre-op if you tell them your freaking out. Probably won't hand you a script, but maybe one or whatever to help you chill out.

Funny, I thought they'd just prescribe me vikes for the post op pain, but the anesthesiologist called me today to ask what kind of pain medicine I respond to best; I told her I honestly didn't know because I've only taken a few in my life, and she said we'll just go with dilaudid lol! My wifes mom gets this stuff when she has really bad migraines, supposed to work well!


Anyway, cool about the neck lipo, if I had a few more bucks I'd def have the doc hit my love handles..but that would just be icing on the cake. As long as my bodyfat isn't out of control my 'handles look just fine.

Still trippy to even try and imagine having a flat chest lol.



edit: Oh yea, the twilight sedation is legit. When I broke both my arms dirtbiking about 8 years ago, they used it on me. I would go in and out while I watched them set my arms in place, not giving a SHIIIT! lol. I haven't fully discussed what kind of sedation/anesthesia I am going to use. Go in thurs for my pre op and I am sure that's when that will be covered.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on February 22, 2012, 09:12:52 PM
Thanks crossfit99,

Half joking on benzos. I have had worse anxiety then this. Although I have a few tebs somewhere in the medicine cabinet I think.

I have the extra bucks right now and the cost is only incrementally more, 6700 base for the gynco and about 2000 more for the neck/chin. It would be 5000 grand if I went back separately. It is complete icing on the cake, nothing as emotional as the gyno, but it is an area (like the gyno) that has not gone much away with my other weight loss. I am also much older then most of the guys here and this will be my little midlife treat (no sports car no mistress).

I am told the twilight thing will be part of the cocktail, and I will just go peacefully asleep and wake up with no passage of time. That would nice.

I am trying not to be overly optimistic, to expect a perfect chest. I would be fine with a "hey, not too bad!".... ya know?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on February 23, 2012, 09:20:52 AM
Thanks crossfit99,

Half joking on benzos. I have had worse anxiety then this. Although I have a few tebs somewhere in the medicine cabinet I think.

I have the extra bucks right now and the cost is only incrementally more, 6700 base for the gynco and about 2000 more for the neck/chin. It would be 5000 grand if I went back separately. It is complete icing on the cake, nothing as emotional as the gyno, but it is an area (like the gyno) that has not gone much away with my other weight loss. I am also much older then most of the guys here and this will be my little midlife treat (no sports car no mistress).

I am told the twilight thing will be part of the cocktail, and I will just go peacefully asleep and wake up with no passage of time. That would nice.

I am trying not to be overly optimistic, to expect a perfect chest. I would be fine with a "hey, not too bad!".... ya know?


Great man, exciting stuff!


Yea, I hear ya. I keep looking for before/afters of a guy with my build and same kind of gyno to help envision what mine may come out like...Hard to do lol. All I can hope for is, no crater and no nipple deformity and I'll probably be thrilled. It's all nerves leading up to something like this, especially for those of us that have never had anything cosmetic done.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on February 23, 2012, 08:57:06 PM
Welp, did the pre-op today. Got my blood work done, and filled my prescriptions.


It seemed like the office was crazy busy; looked like the doc had just finished up a surgery and there were a few other women coming and going. Felt a bit rushed, and to top everything off the lady that was going over everything with me is new lol. Everything got handled, just felt a little rushed on the vest fitting. She came in with an XL, leaves the room so I can try it on, then came back in like 10 seconds later while the damn thing is half way on me.. So I kind of stutter and am like Uh, I think this one will be a bit big (even though I didn't get it fully on). I am fumbling it all around trying to hide my damn chest when she says, "oh hunny, its on backwards". GREAT so I have to FULLY remove the damn thing in front of her, I honestly kind of panicked and was like just do the LARGE and grabbed my shirt. Lol GOD I CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT TO BE OVER! The irony was pretty funny, but when all said and done I sure hope its the right size.

Doc came in REAL briefly and asked if I had any last minute questions. I just asked how long i'd have the drains. He said normally 3 days, or whenever there isn't much of any drainage anymore. I explained the concern about work and he said that since my surgery is on Thursday, I could either A) Go back for a checkup on Monday AM and have them removed or B) Goto work Monday as long as I am not doing ANYTHING strenuous, then go have them removed after work. I am gonna plan on just missing Monday for now, and I'll see how I feel.


2 weeks from RIGHT NOW I will be sitting here feeling like a whole new man, can't wait!

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on February 23, 2012, 09:32:20 PM
Way to go.

My prep is March 13. So thats what they do huh? They have a gal prefit the compression vest? Thanks for that warning. I have trouble fitting into clothes (kind of odd proportions in upper body) so that should be interesting. Maybe I will wear a tight black tank (wife beater) for that day so I don't have to go full frontal with the gal.


You mentioned about not seeing before and afters that look like your body type. I tried Google image search for gyno - lots of pictures - but I had a hard time finding anyone that looked like me now (before). So it is hard to guess what after will be. I will see if I have the courage this summer to post before and after of myself.

Can't wait to hear how it goes for you.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on February 23, 2012, 09:52:00 PM
Way to go.

My prep is March 13. So thats what they do huh? They have a gal prefit the compression vest? Thanks for that warning. I have trouble fitting into clothes (kind of odd proportions in upper body) so that should be interesting. Maybe I will wear a tight black tank (wife beater) for that day so I don't have to go full frontal with the gal.


You mentioned about not seeing before and afters that look like your body type. I tried Google image search for gyno - lots of pictures - but I had a hard time finding anyone that looked like me now (before). So it is hard to guess what after will be. I will see if I have the courage this summer to post before and after of myself.

Can't wait to hear how it goes for you.


From what Ive gather, it's not always a women. Again, the office seemed like it was in a whirlwind today, somewhat unorganized. As the doc left he made the comment that his 'tech' would be in to get me sized for the vest, but when the lady came back in she told me that I was good to go. Honestly, if I wasn't such a nervous mess I would have just asked for the tech to size me. This is, of course the reason we are all here. If there was any hesitation or doubt, it's definitely gone now. I am just SO tired of feeling like that when my shirt goes off.

Dude, you gotta do it. NOBODY here judges, we are all cursed with the moobs to one degree or another. It will make you feel good when people compliment how good you look when it's all done too.

Definitely excited man..Like you, still semi worried about the outcome, but definitely excited.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 01, 2012, 09:30:47 PM
ahhhhhh 1 week from today. Getting more and more nervous by the day... Damn GA has me terrrrrified (charles barkley voice)
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: zm on March 02, 2012, 04:04:44 AM
Crossfit, i know the feeling bro...my surgery is tomorrow..i just got in the office..trying to drink a cup of tea but it doesn't wanna go down my throat...arrrghghgh..
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 02, 2012, 08:38:58 AM
Hang in there guys!  This is the hardest part, and you're almost there.  Well, hardest part is debatable.....depends on how soon your PS wants you to begin massaging afterwards!  ::)
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 02, 2012, 09:23:21 AM
Crossfit, i know the feeling bro...my surgery is tomorrow..i just got in the office..trying to drink a cup of tea but it doesn't wanna go down my throat...arrrghghgh..



Let us know how it goes!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 02, 2012, 08:40:08 PM
I am interested to hear how it goes for you. I am a bit scared about not getting full GA - but I am told not to worry with the whole twilight cocktail. Still go to sleep and then wake up.

I was wrapping up some weight lifting the other day including some major bench presses and dips. I was pumped, accept for the chest of course. As I was flexing in mirror - I could see clearly the pecs flexing - moving independently underneath the moobs. Man it would be something to see those pecs all by themselves. I am trying to to get too optimistic about the results in 4 weeks, but God help me, I want those damn things off my body already. Once I decided to have the surgery I have REALLY been getting irritated (no mad) at those things. That anger is helping me get past the anxiety of the surgery.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: dussaghun on March 03, 2012, 09:24:24 PM
Guys,

My 13 year old son had the surgery in December and he did awesome!  I was so scared to let him have the General Anesthesia.  I was more scared of it than anything.  All I can say is it was totally unfounded.  He did great and did not get sick from the anesthesia or no complications.  The drains removal was the worst part for my son.  Not the actual drains but the removal.  My suggestion is a pain pill before you go and look away.  My son looks, as shaknbake put it, "Freakin Fantastic".  You guys will do great and it will be over and you will be amazed at how smooth things went.  Good Luck!!!!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 04, 2012, 10:57:47 AM
She's not kidding you guys, you should see the results her son got from surgery.  I've never seen such a dramatic improvement on anyone before...ever!  Fortunately for me, I didn't have drains, but for you guys that do, it may be worth following Dassugan's advice! 
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 05, 2012, 12:02:19 PM
Couple more days...Trying to do my best to not think of it, but mannn!! All kinds of second guessing (even though there is 0 chance i'd bail because ive forked out all the $$$), and scary thoughts flowing through my mind. I am already anticipating my BP to be high when I get there bc all the nerves...God I can't wait for this to be over!!!!!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 05, 2012, 01:57:40 PM
I remember exactly how you feel right now...exciting, and scary all at the same time!  Hang in there, you've almost gotten to that pot "o" gold at the end of the rainbow.  It will be over before you know it!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 05, 2012, 03:05:02 PM
I remember exactly how you feel right now...exciting, and scary all at the same time!  Hang in there, you've almost gotten to that pot "o" gold at the end of the rainbow.  It will be over before you know it!

haha I appreciate it! These next 48 hours are going to be slowwww. Once I get to Wed afternoon i'll be good. It's just the days leading up to that point.


Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 05, 2012, 08:29:17 PM
You can do it crossfit99 ! I am rooting for you.  Focus on a point beyond the surgery, how your life will be without those things around anymore.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 05, 2012, 08:38:28 PM
You can do it crossfit99 ! I am rooting for you.  Focus on a point beyond the surgery, how your life will be without those things around anymore.

Appreciate it man! Can't even enjoy a few drinks to help pass the time!! LoL brutal!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 07, 2012, 08:34:17 AM
I think you should be in for surgery today if I'm not mistaken!  God bless my friend, hope all goes well and you end up with a great result.  The ladies will be all over that new manly chest in no time!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 07, 2012, 11:49:52 AM
I think you should be in for surgery today if I'm not mistaken!  God bless my friend, hope all goes well and you end up with a great result.  The ladies will be all over that new manly chest in no time!

Tomorrow morning :) Feeling a  lot better. Just more anxious than anything! Can't friggin' wait to get this over with! Thanks a lot :)
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 07, 2012, 10:08:13 PM
Whelp, tomorrow is the big day! Nervous and excited, just want to get it over with! It's still surreal that I am finally doing this. Just gotta keep me eye on the price..I'll check back in sometime tomorrow!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 08, 2012, 06:22:53 AM
Thinking about you, hope all goes well.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 08, 2012, 06:49:36 PM
Whewwie! What a relief!!! Been home a little over a hour, just relaxing. Got the drains in and Dec am pretty sore.! My left hand finger tips(where the iv was) are numb, kinda feel asleep so that's weird lol. Looking forward to Monday when I hopefully get the drains removed. Saw the big ol meat patties they removed and was like, wow! Lol

Everything went well from what I know, nurse ans anesthesiologist said my heart rate was up as well as BP pre and post op but I think its due to nerves and pain...thanks for all the good wishes, means alot!!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 08, 2012, 07:38:30 PM
Great - you did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know what you mean about BP. I already have high BP, fortunately my heart is good (echo cardiograms last year)..

Rest, and then go get the drains out!

March 27 is not to far away for me.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 08, 2012, 08:00:36 PM
Great - you did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know what you mean about BP. I already have high BP, fortunately my heart is good (echo cardiograms last year)..

Rest, and then go get the drains out!

March 27 is not to far away for me.



Thanks! Yea to my knowledge my heart is fine. Had an ekg a few years back and all was well. I do have pretty bad anxiety and panic issues, so maybe fhawt was the reason. It didn't feel like my heart was racing but it was in the 92-98 range I guess...who knows I've been stressed beyond belief for over a week lol

It will be huuuuuge when I get the drains out, they make me feel restrained and the maintenance sucks on em.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 09, 2012, 11:13:23 AM
Sleep was a pain in the butt last night. I slept downstairs on a lazy boy type of chair to keep propped upright. Between tht, the vest, and the drains I had a he'll of a time getting comfortable.hung out till about 130am watching net flux, dozed off till about 4am woke up for water and to empty drains, then fell back asleep till about 645am. I have the next few days to just veg out so I'm sure I'll nap here and there.

The drainage is definitely gettin less and less. Was getting about 10-12ccs every 6-7 hours, now it seems more like 5ccs if not less. That's great news considering I have to be pretty much done drining by Monday so I can get these things out!

Finger tip numbness was definitely from whatever drugs they gave me, I felt it slowly fade yesterday and is completely gone now. I'll be sooo relieved when the drains come out, until then just gonna keep all the dressings/wraps/vest on.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 09, 2012, 07:51:23 PM
Hey!!  Congrats!!  Glad to hear everything went well.  I'm SO glad I didn't have to deal with drains, they sound like a total pain in the rear.  How long do you have to keep them in?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 09, 2012, 08:04:23 PM
Hey!!  Congrats!!  Glad to hear everything went well.  I'm SO glad I didn't have to deal with drains, they sound like a total pain in the rear.  How long do you have to keep them in?

They REALLY are man. Just knowing they are there is nerve racking, plus there is def added discomfort.

Scheduled to go in Monday to have em removed. Caaaaaant wait!!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 10, 2012, 11:19:59 AM
Ahhhh! Slept so much better last night. Crashed out around 9pm, woke up at 1am to empty, milk, and record my drains. Wen back to sleep till 8am! Feel refreshed, still still and sore. I may take off my vest to remove the big foam padding underneath, but I am nerve racked to do anything lol..I am thinking yesterday was the worst of it, hopefully it all goes up from here.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 11, 2012, 02:33:23 PM
Just about 72 hours post op. Woke up feeling about the same as yesterday, still haven't removed my vest to take s look; don't really plan on it until I goto my check up tomorrow where they HOPEFULLY remove these damn drains. The drains suck, slightly uncomfortable, but they are just more bulky and high maintanence than anything.

Pretty 'backed up' but haven't had any stomach discomfort or anything so far. Just been laying low. It doesn't appear that I am getting much drainage, maybe 2-4ccs every 6 hours and id say it's half blood half yellow/clear fluid....hardly anything at all.

I was so damn worried about the ga and actual surgery tht I didn't put much thought into recovery...it appears i overlooked it a bit because it sucks lol. I am a busy body, hardly can stand sitting through a whole movie, so been bed ridden the las couple daysnhas been rough. Hopefully everything looks good and this all ends up worth it!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 11, 2012, 10:45:04 PM
Well decided to undo the vest and remove the foam. It was killing my armpits, and the nurse said I could remove it if I wanted to. Sooo, I saw my chest. Wow, I am in shock. It's flat, a little swollen, not bruised at all, but definitely flat. My right nipple almost looked a little indented but I didn't take that gauze off and I think what I was seeing was from the tape. Its 72 hours post op so I obviously can't think too much into it, but as of now my biggest concern would be nipple shape..tomorrow at 245pm I go in to have the tubes yanked and im sure I'll get to see both nipples uncovered.

It's funny, all you want is to get through the surgery. You think once that's done the hard part is done...well tbh I think recovery and revealing your new cheat is the scariest/most nerve racking part! Lol it's all a long process, time will tell!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: stevefrench on March 12, 2012, 03:14:51 AM
How's it holding up, Crossfit99?  Hope there's minimal scarring and pain. Your username caught my eye, since I love crossfit myself and my biggest disappointment about the surgery is that I can't crossfit for 6 weeks after :( My surgery's scheduled for the 20th of this month. I understand that there's quite a lot of excitement / anxiety building up toward the surgery and after it's done, there's the anxiety about recovery and results :) I know it's too early too talk about your results, what with the scarring that may come up, but I hope you're satisfied with them!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 12, 2012, 10:52:49 AM
How's it holding up, Crossfit99?  Hope there's minimal scarring and pain. Your username caught my eye, since I love crossfit myself and my biggest disappointment about the surgery is that I can't crossfit for 6 weeks after :( My surgery's scheduled for the 20th of this month. I understand that there's quite a lot of excitement / anxiety building up toward the surgery and after it's done, there's the anxiety about recovery and results :) I know it's too early too talk about your results, what with the scarring that may come up, but I hope you're satisfied with them!

Hey Steve! Yea man the time off from the gym sucks, but hey, after I am all healed up I can actually do a wod in the middle of summer without my shirt on like all the other guys lol!!

Can't really comment on scarring just yet, only 4 days post op, but from what I saw I am pretty flat. It's a shock cause I'm a pretty big dude. 6' 230ish (squat is 450+ dl is in the 500 range), so to see a chest this flat is almost weird lol. Obvioisuly the doc doesn't touch muscle, so it's a reality check on what I neeeda do in the gym.


Where are you located? What surgeon will you be using?

I get my drains out today and will report back for an update!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: ineedsurgery on March 12, 2012, 11:29:41 AM
Nice man congrats! Try to upload some pics if you can
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 12, 2012, 02:06:08 PM
Will do! I was planning on waiting for docs before afters but I'll prob post some of my own here in the next few days
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 12, 2012, 07:01:45 PM
Just got home! Drains are OUT!! doc loved the way im healing etc..

My chest is definitely flat! I'm reserving extreme judgement as it has only been 4-5 days but as of now looks like I have a little indentation on the lower part of my nipple. Doc says that the stitches are sucking it a biit, plus the compression vest makes it look funky. So basically, as long as my nipples return to a decnt shape and contour I will be extremely happy.

Scheduled to go back thurs to make sure isn't any fluid in there. It's SUCH a relief to get those drains out!!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 12, 2012, 08:05:15 PM
Here are some pics.. Pre op and 4 days post op :)

Pre front:
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2012-02-17172622-1-1.jpg)

Pre side:
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2012-02-17172244-1.jpg)


4 days post op front:
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2012-03-12154542.jpg)

4 days post op side:
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2012-03-12154500.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: stevefrench on March 13, 2012, 04:17:55 AM
that's a job well done!! It looks like despite any swelling that may arise, the results're still gonna look great. I am in Seattle and will  be getting my surgery done by Dr.Phil Haeck. My gyne's a little worse than your's was and my left is slightly bigger. So i was told that I MAY have to come in for revisionary surgery 6 months later, if the results are not great. can't wait for this to get done with! Where're you located & which surgeon did you choose?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: stevefrench on March 13, 2012, 04:20:03 AM
ah, never mind, just saw that you got it done by Dr. Corbin.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 13, 2012, 11:26:23 AM
Looking very good! Thank you for posting pics. You must be happy with those results. This quickly after surgery your results look very natural - not too flat, good proportion for the rest of your body.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 13, 2012, 11:54:23 AM
Thanks guys! I tried a white t shirt on this morning that i'd never wear w/o a sweat shirt and man...SO awesome!


As of now my ONLY concern is the slight crater look I have at the bottom of my nipples. Doc didn't bat an eye, said once the stitches go, and through time they will be fine. Even IF they were slightly indented it's 100000x better than what I was dealing with pre-op. Also, my chest will puff out a bit (upper chest) once I get back in the gym and get some blood flowing to my muscles. Excited to see how it all plays out.

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 13, 2012, 05:01:39 PM
Sounds like you've got yourself a new lease on life!  That's awesome, I'm happy for you!  Like the doc says, I wouldn't worry too much about the small stuff right now, it will all work itself out in time.  Enjoy that white t-shirt!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 13, 2012, 08:58:32 PM
Took the vest FULLY off to hop in the shower for the first time in almost a week.. Not sure if its swelling or what, but I am a little sad. Above my left nip, where it was really bad pre-op, it looks puffy (on a smaller scale than pre op), when I press I feel hardness down there like he missed that spot. Also, I found out yesterday that he did excision only. He said lipo is basically to help with the contour and he would have done if he felt that it needed it, but he didn't think it did. Feeling a little down about the indentations as well, they look pretty damn inverted at the bottom of my nipples. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 14, 2012, 11:31:51 AM
I know it's tough, but try not to get too discouraged yet.  You'll see a TON of changes over the next few weeks.  Some good, some not so good.  As you heal, you'll swell like crazy in some spots, and not others.  Then it will all switch around again!  I had a huge lump on my left side pretty well immediately after surgery.  It looked pretty bad, but there was nothing I could do but wait it out, and hope for the best.  I'm over 2 months out now, and it has reduced quite a bit since just after the surgery.  It's not gone completely, but is much less noticeable now.  I had to massage the hard lumps quite firmly, but eventually they softened up and shrunk almost completely away.  The indentation you have may be more pronounced because of the swelling around the area.  Once the swelling subsides a bit, you will hopefully notice a better contour.  I hope for your sake that you won't need a revision since he didn't do lipo along with the excision.  But, he's a professional, and hopefully he made the right call.  Time will tell, but try not to dwell on it too much in the meantime.  It will drive you more insane that the man boobs did before surgery!  Once you get the o.k to start massaging, do it RELIGIOUSLY.  It will help.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 14, 2012, 11:58:09 AM
I know it's tough, but try not to get too discouraged yet.  You'll see a TON of changes over the next few weeks.  Some good, some not so good.  As you heal, you'll swell like crazy in some spots, and not others.  Then it will all switch around again!  I had a huge lump on my left side pretty well immediately after surgery.  It looked pretty bad, but there was nothing I could do but wait it out, and hope for the best.  I'm over 2 months out now, and it has reduced quite a bit since just after the surgery.  It's not gone completely, but is much less noticeable now.  I had to massage the hard lumps quite firmly, but eventually they softened up and shrunk almost completely away.  The indentation you have may be more pronounced because of the swelling around the area.  Once the swelling subsides a bit, you will hopefully notice a better contour.  I hope for your sake that you won't need a revision since he didn't do lipo along with the excision.  But, he's a professional, and hopefully he made the right call.  Time will tell, but try not to dwell on it too much in the meantime.  It will drive you more insane that the man boobs did before surgery!  Once you get the o.k to start massaging, do it RELIGIOUSLY.  It will help.


Good advice man. I took a couple more looks last night and I may be over analyzing a tad. The dent is there, but it may not look so bad with time, especially after I get back in the gym. -- You are definitely right about driving you more insane than pre-op lol. I have a follow up appointment tomorrow where I will address some of the issues and we will just have to wait and see..

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 14, 2012, 02:31:03 PM
I think I figured it out. Since he didn't do the lipo, there is still a decent amount of fat on the top portion of my chest. On my left pec, in the outter quadrant up towards my armpit I had a lot of big nasty fat deposits/gland whatever. It was hard under there, and it extended down to push out the top of my nipple making it kinda point down. Well it seems that's still in there, it's puffy my nipple out a big (not to mention looks fatty up there) and compared to the lower portion of my nipple where he removed gland it stands out way more.


I am little upset he didn't do lipo as I was under the impression he was going to do both. I go back tomorrow and i'll see what he says. Hopefully he honors his work.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 15, 2012, 12:08:34 PM
Just checkin back in.


I showed my Pops (and wife has obviously seen) my chest and he thought it looked great. He, too has gyne and has dealt with it his whole life. He is jealous at my results and thinks the sterile strips are indeed whats causes my minor indentation. He also said I would be splitting hairs and thinks I am overlooking it if indeed I think I have a crater deformity. This was very reassuring. Without a doubt, from  my point of view up top, the dimples are way more pronounced. He also thinks after I drop 10-20lbs like I have planned, the 'fattyness' I am complaining of (that wasn't lipo'd) will go away. Regardless, he and my Wife shoot me straight and think my chest looks good. My Wife is actually leaning more towards it being TOO flat lol. I have weight trained my whole life and always had big pecs; well that's what people viewed them as, but the nipple portion was always sloppy and droopy. I am not stressin' the 'flatness' as I know a few gym sessions will get some blood flow to my pec muscles and it will probably instantly look better in that regard.

I have my follow up appointment today (already 1 week post op!!!). I am going to ask about the knots of fat I can feel in the upper-outter quadrants, and also see when I can get in the gym. I am anticipating 3-4 weeks.

Also, because I only had excision do you guys think the swelling will be less? As of right now I dont think I am swollen at all? However, this could too be why I think its fatty, when in fact its swollen?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 15, 2012, 05:33:38 PM
I think without having lipo, you would definitely swell less than if you had it done.  The lipo is pretty aggressive, and does cause alot of swelling, at least it did on me!  I agree with you too about the weight loss making your chest look better afterwards.  I would like to lose a good 40lbs, and definitely feel this would help the overall appearance quite a bit.  I've been doing some push ups over the last couple of weeks, and notice once I'm done 2 or 3 sets, my chest looks pretty good!  It's all pumped, and looks much more full and natural.  Guess I'd better keep at it too LOL!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 15, 2012, 06:33:41 PM
I think without having lipo, you would definitely swell less than if you had it done.  The lipo is pretty aggressive, and does cause alot of swelling, at least it did on me!  I agree with you too about the weight loss making your chest look better afterwards.  I would like to lose a good 40lbs, and definitely feel this would help the overall appearance quite a bit.  I've been doing some push ups over the last couple of weeks, and notice once I'm done 2 or 3 sets, my chest looks pretty good!  It's all pumped, and looks much more full and natural.  Guess I'd better keep at it too LOL!


Definitely!

So I goto the doc and ask about the fatty tissue up at the top, he smirks and POKES my gut (LOL) and says, when this comes off, the chest fat will come off. He had me raise my arms and you could clearly see where the tissue was removed, and there isn't any tissue around my nipple; so if I think its being pushed out, it has to be from fat. I was training hard for the last couple months but stopped about 3 weeks pre-op bc money issues (my gym cost 130/month). In those 3 weeks i definitely ate like crap and sat around.

He told me wait 1 full week from today and I could get back in the gym, I CAN'T WAIT!! After him 'poking' fun, I am extremely motivated. I think I was kinda lying to myself about my bodyfat. I have always been in the gym and kept a nice solid frame, but the last year or so has been spotty and I think it's showing up big time. Time to get the diet in check and get after it in the gym!

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 16, 2012, 12:19:58 PM
Hey Crossfit!  Thanks for keeping us all updated with your procedure.  I'm reading this on my work computer so I'm unable to view your pictures, but as soon as I get home, I plan to take a look!

I've got my procedue scheduled for this upcoming Thursday, March 22nd.  The doctor I am using said that he will be doing lipo and the incision so that drains would be required.  To your point, I've been focused more on the surgery that the recovery hasn't really been on the forefront of my mind!    Being that you've successfully made it out of the 'drain phase', do you have any tips or advice around making the drains a bit easier to live with?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 16, 2012, 01:27:38 PM
Hey Crossfit!  Thanks for keeping us all updated with your procedure.  I'm reading this on my work computer so I'm unable to view your pictures, but as soon as I get home, I plan to take a look!

I've got my procedue scheduled for this upcoming Thursday, March 22nd.  The doctor I am using said that he will be doing lipo and the incision so that drains would be required.  To your point, I've been focused more on the surgery that the recovery hasn't really been on the forefront of my mind!    Being that you've successfully made it out of the 'drain phase', do you have any tips or advice around making the drains a bit easier to live with?

Hey man, thanks for following!

re pics: I will take some decent shots when the sterile strips come off, doc said he will be taking photos when I go back in 2 weeks as well. I am getting my diet in check and will be hitting the gym HARD in alittle over a week as well. I think after I shave off 10-15lbs it will make everything look dramatically better. Even now, I am coming around on everything. I had my shirt/vest off for about 30 mins yesterday to give myself a hair cut then shower and honestly it's like culture shock to not have a big hunk of boob and droopy nipple, even leaning over the sink to brush my teeth theres NOTHING 'hanging' down, its crazy!


To your drain question; honestly man just hunker down and CHILL. Get a nice lazy boy/couch set up in the house with some blankets/juice/water/and most importantly channel changer nice and close to  you lol. You aren't gonna wanna be real mobile while they are in. They are a bit uncomfortable, but more than anything just bulky, high maintenance and in the way. I was like terrified of getting them caught on something lol. I wore a zip up hoodie the whole time they were in just to conceal them from catchin on anything. -- Kick back, drink plenty of fluids and take your pain pills. Your body will be pretty beat the first day and sleeping may be a little bit of a pain, so just catch some zzz's whenever you can (throughout the day and what-not).

Don't fear the removal process. I read some guys' posts saying "I can't believe I didn't lose consciousness because the pain", and all this bs. Unless their doc was doing something WAY wrong, I don't see that being the case. I just got on my back, kind of straight my arm out, he told me to take a deep breath in and as I started breathing out he'd pull. He pulled FAST. Feels kinda weird as it goes and then theres a quick pinch as it leaves the hole. He put some neosporin (or whatever) on, then a band aid, then did the other side. It was over quickly and a HUGE relief. You don't realize the discomfort they cause until they are out, but its SO nice when they finally go. -- I just tried to make light and tell myself they are in there for a good cause and it should help with the contour as well as shorten the chances of any hematoma or seroma.


It will all be here and gone before you know it man, there's nothing to fear, truly. It's exciting, you'll be so happy wehn you look down on that flat chest!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 16, 2012, 02:28:30 PM
Noy oh boy, you've got me giddy to get this done and over with!  (assuming there are no complications!)

I'm sensing that our body types are fairly similar (I'm 6' 215 - although not squating/deadlifting nearly as much as you!)so your success gives me hope.  I CANNOT wait to see my entire pec in the mirror, not just the top half.  Can't wait where a plain white t-shirt without goofy looking nipples poking through!  But like you, I can't wait to hit the gym and diet the hardest I ever have in my life and really see what my body can acheive.  I've always played sports and been in fairly decent shape, I suppose, but my chest has always appeared soft which has certainly always played a part in losing motivation, ya know?  My father used to take part in bodybuilding competitions in his 20s and 30s (He is now 54 and still looks AMAZING). It's been on my bucket list to compete in at least one amatuer bodybuilding show in my life, which I'd like to do before I'm 30. (I turn 27 in June)   

For the last year, I've been living by this quote:  "What a shame it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." -Socrates   

Obviously, expectations MUST be kept in check, but I'm hoping for the best. Hopefully scarring is minimal, indentations are few, and skin/contour shape nicely;  BUT, even if complications occur and competing is off the table, I still plan to cultivate my body into the best that it can be.

I am proud of you for going through with the surgey, I thank you for your advice, and I look forward to reading about your progress over the next few weeks and months!

What was your doctor's timeline for scarring and being in sunlight at the beach?   Summer is right around the corner, afterall.
 
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 16, 2012, 02:49:55 PM
Boy oh boy*   God dammit, I hate typos.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 16, 2012, 03:10:16 PM
Noy oh boy, you've got me giddy to get this done and over with!  (assuming there are no complications!)

I'm sensing that our body types are fairly similar (I'm 6' 215 - although not squating/deadlifting nearly as much as you!)so your success gives me hope.  I CANNOT wait to see my entire pec in the mirror, not just the top half.  Can't wait where a plain white t-shirt without goofy looking nipples poking through!  But like you, I can't wait to hit the gym and diet the hardest I ever have in my life and really see what my body can acheive.  I've always played sports and been in fairly decent shape, I suppose, but my chest has always appeared soft which has certainly always played a part in losing motivation, ya know?  My father used to take part in bodybuilding competitions in his 20s and 30s (He is now 54 and still looks AMAZING). It's been on my bucket list to compete in at least one amatuer bodybuilding show in my life, which I'd like to do before I'm 30. (I turn 27 in June)  

For the last year, I've been living by this quote:  "What a shame it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." -Socrates    

Obviously, expectations MUST be kept in check, but I'm hoping for the best. Hopefully scarring is minimal, indentations are few, and skin/contour shape nicely;  BUT, even if complications occur and competing is off the table, I still plan to cultivate my body into the best that it can be.

I am proud of you for going through with the surgey, I thank you for your advice, and I look forward to reading about your progress over the next few weeks and months!

What was your doctor's timeline for scarring and being in sunlight at the beach?   Summer is right around the corner, afterall.
 

Absolutely bro! Stories sound very familiar.


Right now, unfortunately I let myself get outta shape a bit so pics look pretty bad. Though, within a solid 9 weeks of training i'll be where I want to be, no excuses.

As far as the scarring, he hasn't REALLY outlined because everyone heals differently. From what I have read I think the first couple weeks are a definitely no-no in the sun and it gets better from there. Personally, I will not go out in the sun till the bitter end, or if my scars look really good. I have a lot of tattoos and know what the sun can do lol.


The white t-shirt thing is crazy man. One of the first things I did when i got my drains out was go home and slide on a couple shirts that I wouldn't wear without a sweat shirt over them..It's truly amazing the difference. I have noticed that I need a little work on my posture because I have developed different shitty ways of standing to conceal the ta-ta's. Being that y ou train, you will look awesome after surgery and recovery.


Where are you located and who is doing your surgery?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 16, 2012, 03:22:24 PM

So I goto the doc and ask about the fatty tissue up at the top, he smirks and POKES my gut (LOL) and says, when this comes off, the chest fat will come off.

So your Doctor is wise ass eh ? (but honest!) ;D

Well the results still look good to me.

I am much older than you, but re-started strength training two years ago. Using a 5x5 program. I am interested to see if I will be able to see any Pecs, once the fat and issue is mostly gone. I can see some muscle elsewhere in my body, but not there.

And yes - I am looking forward to the idea of a white (or light grey) T-shirt late this summer. And in the fall - no swim shirt at the gym pool.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 16, 2012, 03:34:15 PM

So I goto the doc and ask about the fatty tissue up at the top, he smirks and POKES my gut (LOL) and says, when this comes off, the chest fat will come off.

So your Doctor is wise ass eh ? (but honest!) ;D

Well the results still look good to me.

I am much older than you, but re-started strength training two years ago. Using a 5x5 program. I am interested to see if I will be able to see any Pecs, once the fat and issue is mostly gone. I can see some muscle elsewhere in my body, but not there.

And yes - I am looking forward to the idea of a white (or light grey) T-shirt late this summer. And in the fall - no swim shirt at the gym pool.

haha, he's just, frank. He shoots ya straight which I can appreciate. Sometimes its better coming from someone like that; a reality check.


5x5 is a great program for power/strength. Love it.

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 16, 2012, 03:57:00 PM
I live in Philadelphia and will be using Dr. Lo.    I went for a consult with the guy in White Plains (I think the post gets deleted if his name is mentioned).  I paid the $150 for the consult, scheduled the surgery, as soon a I got home I began to read some rather crummy stories about him, so I cancelled.

The following week, I had a consult with Lo, which was super convenient as the office is literally 6 blocks from where I work.   He was nice, informative, confident, and seemed like he actually cared.  I did get the impression from Blauu that his office was just a gyne factory where it's purely about the numbers; Lo seems like it will be much more personal and he seems to have a true interest in his profession, and specifically this procedure.

My fingers are crossed for some good results!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 16, 2012, 04:28:28 PM
I live in Philadelphia and will be using Dr. Lo.    I went for a consult with the guy in White Plains (I think the post gets deleted if his name is mentioned).  I paid the $150 for the consult, scheduled the surgery, as soon a I got home I began to read some rather crummy stories about him, so I cancelled.

The following week, I had a consult with Lo, which was super convenient as the office is literally 6 blocks from where I work.   He was nice, informative, confident, and seemed like he actually cared.  I did get the impression from Blauu that his office was just a gyne factory where it's purely about the numbers; Lo seems like it will be much more personal and he seems to have a true interest in his profession, and specifically this procedure.

My fingers are crossed for some good results!

Yea i've heard good and bad about blauuu. Definitely could see how it would seem like the gyne factory lol.. My guy does a lot as well, which was good and bad. Good because it makes you feel more at ease, but at the same time you don't want them overly cocky about it. Also, my doc actually removes the gland first, and if need be does lipo (which he said he RARELY does). Thought that was weird bc going into the op I thought for sure I was getting both lipo and excision. He said he does remove fat via excision though.. If you check out the before/afters on his site www gynecomastia expert dot com, you'll see some dudes that def appear to have fat but under the procedure it says "excision" or "bilateral subcutaneous mascetomy", there's only like 2 with lipo. That's what made me feel better in the end.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 16, 2012, 08:00:32 PM
Man, today around noon under my vest I started getting itchy as HELL. I was scratching away and finally looked and it looks like I have little bug bites on the perimeter of where the vest is. I have been wearing it non stop for a week and a day without a wash, so I am assuming its that. I only have the one vest and was sketchy leaving it off why I wash it because you need to hang dry. Anyone else experience this? I feel guilty leaving it off for a few hours as it hang dries but I had no other option..
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 17, 2012, 12:51:37 PM
I wouldn't fret about leaving the vest off for a short while, you should be fine.  I only had one vest as well, but I threw mine in the dryer after washing.  I didn't read the care instructions, but I would have dried it anyway.  If its made of nylon, or polyester / spandex etc, it will be fine.  The dryer could cause it to get those little fabric balls on it,  but who cares?  You don't see all that under your shirt anyways.  Toss 'er in the dryer and see what happens!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 17, 2012, 02:53:12 PM
I wouldn't fret about leaving the vest off for a short while, you should be fine.  I only had one vest as well, but I threw mine in the dryer after washing.  I didn't read the care instructions, but I would have dried it anyway.  If its made of nylon, or polyester / spandex etc, it will be fine.  The dryer could cause it to get those little fabric balls on it,  but who cares?  You don't see all that under your shirt anyways.  Toss 'er in the dryer and see what happens!

I was just afraid that it would come out lookin like it belonged on my 2 year old son lol
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 17, 2012, 05:22:42 PM
Ay yiyi this rash is ugly and itchy. No clue whats causing it, gonna re-watch the vest right now in the actual washing machine and take a shower. When I get out i'll put a wife beat on under the vest to see if that helps.. Here are some pics about 9 days post op. Don't mind the nasty red blotches, the darker red is scabbing from where the tube pinched the living hell outta my sides. The first day I came home from OP they had: a foam pad, vest, and 2 ace bandages wrapped TIGHT. The pressure of all that like pushed the tubes into my skin a bit, very uncomfortable lol

Pre op front:
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2012-02-17172622-1-1.jpg)

9 days post op front:
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2012-03-17142736.jpg)

Pre right:
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2012-02-17172244-1.jpg)

9 days post op right:
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2012-03-17142716.jpg)

Pre op left:
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2012-02-17172300-1.jpg)

9 days post op left:
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2012-03-17142751.jpg)


Feeling better and better..REALLY need to drop some fat and ill be much happier. Not happy with my body as a whole, but chest looks MUCH improved!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 17, 2012, 05:50:48 PM
Looking good.

I am wondering if the vest is giving you a reaction (material?) or maybe the laundry detergent

I was kinda planning on wife beaters as well- to keep the vest clearn. I suppose I could wear the second stage compression shirts I bought as well while washing.

P.S.

....like the refrigerated beer keg tap in the background! Which reminds me I don't know what the rules are on drinking after surgery while healing. I suspect i may want a cold one or two.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 17, 2012, 06:17:18 PM
Looking good.

I am wondering if the vest is giving you a reaction (material?) or maybe the laundry detergent

I was kinda planning on wife beaters as well- to keep the vest clearn. I suppose I could wear the second stage compression shirts I bought as well while washing.

P.S.

....like the refrigerated beer keg tap in the background! Which reminds me I don't know what the rules are on drinking after surgery while healing. I suspect i may want a cold one or two.

Thanks! I really don't know, not sure why it took a week to start making me itch/breakout? I just got outta the shower, put some cortisone cream on the blotches and put a wife beater on under the vest. Feels better, we'll see how it works out.


lol! My Pops brews his own beer so I have home brew on tap year 'round. This is a major reason you see those ginormous love handles lol. I have always stored my fat in chest/love handles. As you see from the side profile I don't have some huge protruding gut, so when I drop the weight my handles/chest will look a lot better.

Well, my 'instructions' were no alcohol 2 weeks prior to surgery. That seemed bogus to me considering alcohol metabolizes in/out of your body in a couple days, max. I even saw Dr. Jacobs recommend that you stop drinking a COUPLE days in advanced, and no real heavy drinking maybe 4-5 days prior. I'd definitely take the no aspirin 2 weeks thing to heart as I don't know exactly how long it thins your blood. I went out for the Father in laws 50th bday party about a week and a half prior to surgery and went balls out, then had a few beers after that point. My last beer was on a Sunday and surgery was Thursday.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 19, 2012, 01:23:04 PM
Just had my pre-op consultation with Dr. Lo and he said that having a beer or glass wine up until the day before surgery would be fine.  (For the exact reason that Mister Crossfit said)

Going under the knife on Thursday.  Nervous but excited!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 19, 2012, 11:43:46 PM
Just had my pre-op consultation with Dr. Lo and he said that having a beer or glass wine up until the day before surgery would be fine.  (For the exact reason that Mister Crossfit said)

Going under the knife on Thursday.  Nervous but excited!

Wow quick! Awesome bro I'm pumped for you!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 20, 2012, 02:32:57 PM
Thanks, man!   I just paid for it - in pieces on credit cards - but it's still paid for nonetheless! (I'm in the process of refinancing my house, so once that is all done, I can consolidate. (Signing is actually tonite)   Probably not the most prudent way to way for something cosmetic, but I really don't want to let another summer pass me by.  And as the summer creeps closer, I fear that I'd end up putting the surgery off until after the summer or who knows when - if that makes any sense.

Any update on your healing?  How is everything coming along?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 20, 2012, 02:54:08 PM
Thanks, man!   I just paid for it - in pieces on credit cards - but it's still paid for nonetheless! (I'm in the process of refinancing my house, so once that is all done, I can consolidate. (Signing is actually tonite)   Probably not the most prudent way to way for something cosmetic, but I really don't want to let another summer pass me by.  And as the summer creeps closer, I fear that I'd end up putting the surgery off until after the summer or who knows when - if that makes any sense.

Any update on your healing?  How is everything coming along?


Sweet!


To be honest man, I am a little sad. I REALLY wish I knew he wasn't gonna do lipo. The WHOLE reason I went to him was for the lipo. There is definitely a small indentation on the lower part of my nipple (which from what I read is due to poor contouring, ie not lipoing with the gland removal). I do realize I have fat that I need to dump, so I am just praying as the fat goes it all comes together better. Just a little depressing after waiting 20+ years for the surgery, it has come n gone and it's not all that satisfying. I know some things will change but I can FEEL the big knots of fat or gland that were there pre-op that were, IMO the worst part of everything.

We'll see, but be thankful you KNOW you are getting lipo+excision. You'll be golden man!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 20, 2012, 03:22:08 PM
Interesting.    That's definitely annoying.  It's easy to SAY that we have 'realistic' expectations, but is that really true?  Hell, what does a 'realistic' expectation even mean?  Is hoping for a nicely shaped chest that forms your pectoral muscle gracefully and naturally an 'unrealistic' expectation?  I'd like to think that this is realistic and attainable!

I'm a worry-wart by nature, so I'm certain that I'll be focusing solely on the imperfections and irregularites, as well.  However, from an outside perspective, you're only 3 weeks out, right?  When you lose weight, I'm sure that your chest will even out. And then in the winter, when you go back into hibernation drinking your Pop's beer, I'm sure that the new fat will be evenly distributed.

The whole reason you went to him was for lipo?  But wouldn't that have left the gland in there, with the accompanying puffy/soft nipples and with a generally flabby chest?  I almost feel that my actual chest looks better when I'm carrying some extra weight, as it makes the gland look less pronounced - but needless to say, the rest of my body then looks flabby and gross.  I think that having the gland removed was definitely the way to go, man. 

When is your next visit with him? Does he do revision surgery?  Not a sexy option, but if you came this far and aren't happy with the result, why not look into it?

How is the scarring looking?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 20, 2012, 03:28:12 PM
Interesting.    That's definitely annoying.  It's easy to SAY that we have 'realistic' expectations, but is that really true?  Hell, what does a 'realistic' expectation even mean?  Is hoping for a nicely shaped chest that forms your pectoral muscle gracefully and naturally an 'unrealistic' expectation?  I'd like to think that this is realistic and attainable!

I'm a worry-wart by nature, so I'm certain that I'll be focusing solely on the imperfections and irregularites, as well.  However, from an outside perspective, you're only 3 weeks out, right?  When you lose weight, I'm sure that your chest will even out. And then in the winter, when you go back into hibernation drinking your Pop's beer, I'm sure that the new fat will be evenly distributed.

The whole reason you went to him was for lipo?  But wouldn't that have left the gland in there, with the accompanying puffy/soft nipples and with a generally flabby chest?  I almost feel that my actual chest looks better when I'm carrying some extra weight, as it makes the gland look less pronounced - but needless to say, the rest of my body then looks flabby and gross.  I think that having the gland removed was definitely the way to go, man.  

When is your next visit with him? Does he do revision surgery?  Not a sexy option, but if you came this far and aren't happy with the result, why not look into it?

How is the scarring looking?

Haha I hear ya. My wife says I am being hard on myself, plus she realized I have some pudge I need to expend. -- No I went for lipo+excision, and he only did excision. He said that lipo was just for contouring and he rarely ever needs to do it as the contour looks good when he cuts away gland and removes some fat via excision. I may the rare case that he should have done both, HOPEFULLY he will/would honor a revision, but not sure how all that works.


My next appointment is next Thurs, the 29th. The two parts that bother me the most are 1) The knotty fat that is just above the nipple, on the outter portion. It was REALLY bad pre-op, but I def feel it there now and it kinda pushes the 'nothern' half of my nip out a bit. I think if he woulda sucked that out, it would fix prob 2) which is the slight indentation JUST south of my nipple. he said the stitches/tape were sucking my skin in. Which may be true as the sterile strip tape hasn't even come off yet. However, I have a hard time believing the tape is doing that much. -- It doesn't look like some massive crater deformity like i've seen, but its noticeable to me and I think could be fixed with lipo of the upper chest to smooth everything out. The only way it looks kinda like a crater is when i lift my arms up in the air. You can see the round portion where the gland was removed, as i lower my arms that 'knotty' shit I have been talking about lowers down and seems to be on the 'north' side of my nipple (which leads me to believe its fat, which i hope it is). He told me that it should have a slight indentation when arms are raised, otherwise it would signify there is access gland in there. Again, it probably doesn't help that I have fat surrounding the nipple which exaggerates the 'dimple'.

Also,I haven't even seen the scars yet so I can't comment on that. He told me to leave the strips on till they 'fall' off. Thurs is 2 weeks, so if they aren't off by then I'll just pull em off. Don't see the need to have em on there for a month lol

For now i'll start with fat loss and see where it goes. Just stressfull.



Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 20, 2012, 04:03:12 PM
I am not trying to sound all emo lol.>reading my post it sounds like I am on the verge of cutting my wrist lmao. I am a bit moody bc the dieting and just having one of those days. On a positive note, even if I didn't lose a POUND, I look 10million times better in a t-shirt and would never be shy about wearing anything, all my issues are strictly when i'd be shirtless.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 20, 2012, 07:45:53 PM
Ya, took off the sterile strips and I am definitely really sad with my results so far. Wow :(..Posted some pics in the 'Ask a doc' section.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 20, 2012, 09:05:57 PM
I saw your picks. Overall I still think the results are better, noticeably better, then before. Your before was not really bad to me and I would have been happy with your "before" chest. However, the nipple crease has me perplexed, but I am not a doctor so I don't know. It is sill early for your healing.



Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 20, 2012, 09:22:20 PM
I saw your picks. Overall I still think the results are better, noticeably better, then before. Your before was not really bad to me and I would have been happy with your "before" chest. However, the nipple crease has me perplexed, but I am not a doctor so I don't know. It is sill early for your healing.





Haha thanks. Yea, I've been doing alot of reading and some say the creases go, others don't. Either way takes a lot of time which sucks.


They do look a little better (minus the creases), but not sure it was worth $5000. I honestly think lipo on the top portion of my chest would have helped out alot. Those pics don't do my indention any justice either, if I look sideways and flex my pecs it looks absolutely retarded. I know losing bodyfat will help, essentially i'll do my own 'lipoing', just hope everything comes out good.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 21, 2012, 05:25:02 AM


I kind of have the opposite concern with my doc. He started talking lipo from the first words. I looked at him and said - "ya I know I got extra fat on me (I am a middle aged tall big guy) and thats great with the lipo, but what about the breast tissue removal?" The doctor then talked about using a cutting cannula "as needed". I said to him don't make the assumption that this is all fat, because I know it is not.

Based on your experience I am going to restate my concern (tissue removal) forcefully again when he starts drawing on me next Tuesday morning.  Also I think my doctor agreed somewhere to revision surgery if needed, I would only need to pay anesthesiologist. Will check paper work.

you go in next Thursday for your check up right?

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 21, 2012, 09:11:23 AM
Yea, hammer it home man. It seems there are only a hand full of surgeons out there that REALLY take their time and listen. I felt rushed throughout all my pre-op visits, and more the I read, most people do. These guys get into such a routine that I think they lose (or maybe never had) their personal skills. I feel like we just become another body on the op table for them to get their $$$.

IF my doc cared, he'd do what you said yours would do and offer a revision down the road with a fee for the anesthesiologist and what-not.

I'd almost put it in writing that you want the gland trimmed down to match the contour of the rest of your chest. Who knows how honorable some of these guys are..


Yea, next ck up is 3-29 
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 21, 2012, 11:09:13 AM
I finally had a chance at a computer to see your after pics crossfit, looking great man!  Your doc did a sweet job from the looks of things.  Your a pretty fit guy, so the chest should contour nicely as you get back into the swing of things.  Cheers!  ;D
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 21, 2012, 11:19:28 AM
I just wanted to add another comment crossfit that hopefully may help you.  I just read your other post in the "ask a doctor" section about feeling like you've been butchered.  I can see by your pics why you would feel this way.  BUT, I think you may be surprised at how much your nipples will fill out as scar tissue starts to develop.  It took about 6 weeks for me to feel it starting to come on under the nipple area.  I think that when this begins for you, it may be just what you need to kind of "fill in" the creased areas.  Kinda like a balloon so to speak LOL (but not big of course).  I definitely think that it will take away those creases though.  Hang in there.  From what I've read from others, and experienced myself, it seems to get a bit worse before it gets better.  I hope this holds true for you too!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 21, 2012, 11:49:36 AM
Thanks man! Appreciate the positive feedback.


Yea, I am really  hoping those creases settle down a bit, really makes my nips look weird/deformed. Gonna get in the gym here soon and hope that, plus some massaging of the tissue helps.


Time will only tell.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 21, 2012, 02:08:00 PM
Keep up the good work.  I think he's right, just give it some time before you really start to panic.   Personally, when I let things amplify in my head, I'm unable to see things clearly.  Not saying you are seeing things incorrectly, but dwelling on it at this point will do no good.  Eat healthy whole foods, with alot of fruits and veggies that have vitamins and fibers.

It sounds like a very healthy diet can dramatically help the body's recovery time.

I'm sure it will be almost impossible, but I'm going to do my best to not inspect my chest for at least a month.  Obviously, I will see it, but getting up close with it will do no good, in my perspective.  Going to eat healthy, ride the erecise bike, and follow the post-op instructions to a T.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 21, 2012, 02:25:53 PM
Keep up the good work.  I think he's right, just give it some time before you really start to panic.   Personally, when I let things amplify in my head, I'm unable to see things clearly.  Not saying you are seeing things incorrectly, but dwelling on it at this point will do no good.  Eat healthy whole foods, with alot of fruits and veggies that have vitamins and fibers.

It sounds like a very healthy diet can dramatically help the body's recovery time.

I'm sure it will be almost impossible, but I'm going to do my best to not inspect my chest for at least a month.  Obviously, I will see it, but getting up close with it will do no good, in my perspective.  Going to eat healthy, ride the erecise bike, and follow the post-op instructions to a T.


yea, thanks buddy. I guarantee you I am being obsessive about it, however what I see is no myth lol. The creases may go away but man, they are pretty gnarly and have a hard time believing that they will.. Time will tell, all I can do is eat good, train, and wait.


Excited for tomorrow? I checked out your surgeons site, his 2 methods are described JUST like my docs are on the site. Basically Lipo then Excision (or bilateral subcutaneous mescetomy), not sure how your chest looks; but make SURE he's doing lipo + the excision man. Paying that much money, it only makes sense to do it how the experts do it. Even really lean people get lipo, to prevent what may have happened to me.

edit: oh and GOOD luck not looking at your chest lol! Man, I was seriously terrified to look the first time (maybe deservingly so), but once I got that first peek it was ON lol!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 22, 2012, 06:08:53 AM

I'm sure it will be almost impossible, but I'm going to do my best to not inspect my chest for at least a month.  Obviously, I will see it, but getting up close with it will do no good, in my perspective.  Going to eat healthy, ride the erecise bike, and follow the post-op instructions to a T.

Showtime620, I think you have your procedure with Dr. Lo today? Nice website he has. I hope all goes well.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 22, 2012, 06:19:46 AM
crossfit99,

I see comments from Docs (in other area) and others offering some reassurance on the creases going away with healing. Hang in there. I imagine I will be joining you in a week about obsessing on results. I am also going to do my best to contain my obsessive/perfectionist/worrier side for 2-3 weeks while healing.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 22, 2012, 07:43:09 AM
Yup.  Sitting in the waiting room as I type. The butterflies are kicking up big time.  Crossfit, in really not that bad, a little less than you, specifically on the left side.   Most people, especially on this website, probably would think I'm being overly dramatic to opt for surgery.  But I will ensure that he's doing lipo; he did say that he starts with look and I should wake up unable to grab any breast!   Feeling nervous,  my fingers are crossed.  Will update afterwards.   

ps - signing all that living will paperwork is a bit spooky.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 22, 2012, 10:14:16 AM
Yup.  Sitting in the waiting room as I type. The butterflies are kicking up big time.  Crossfit, in really not that bad, a little less than you, specifically on the left side.   Most people, especially on this website, probably would think I'm being overly dramatic to opt for surgery.  But I will ensure that he's doing lipo; he did say that he starts with look and I should wake up unable to grab any breast!   Feeling nervous,  my fingers are crossed.  Will update afterwards.   

ps - signing all that living will paperwork is a bit spooky.

lol, if my calculations are right you are probably just about done with surgery! Congrats brotha, excited for you! Haha I tried to not read any of that, just signed away! Let us know how youre doing!


Thanks GreatLakes, only time will tell at this point. I'll definitely express some unhappiness to my results when I go in next Thurs. He will probably just blow me off and say everything will turn out fine then haul ass outta the room like he has the last few times, but I am gonna try to sound a little more real about it this time. The shittiest part is the $$, I am not some super rich dude that could just fork out 3-5k at the drop of a dime. I spent time saving, then even pulled out a little personal loan to get this procedure done. 5k is a hefty amount for me to just dump on something, without being completely satisfied. Like I said though, only time will tell, not much I can do at this point!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 22, 2012, 12:32:34 PM
All done.   Sitting in post-op now.  Feel good in general but certainly a little sore.  I saw Dr. Lo briefly, said he did the lipo and excision and that it went well.  (I'm sure they all say that, though)  where the tubes are coming out of the armpits definitely hurts the worst.

Now, my next issue is waiting for my fuckin ride.  He is so far the only person I've told, but he's not the most reliable. Hopefully I won't be sitting here all day long!

I'm really hoping to have the appearance of an actual chest when this is all said and done.

I can already smell myself starting to stink.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 22, 2012, 12:47:26 PM
All done.   Sitting in post-op now.  Feel good in general but certainly a little sore.  I saw Dr. Lo briefly, said he did the lipo and excision and that it went well.  (I'm sure they all say that, though)  where the tubes are coming out of the armpits definitely hurts the worst.

Now, my next issue is waiting for my fuckin ride.  He is so far the only person I've told, but he's not the most reliable. Hopefully I won't be sitting here all day long!

I'm really hoping to have the appearance of an actual chest when this is all said and done.

I can already smell myself starting to stink.

lol congrats brother! -- Actually, no, my doc or nurse never said 'it looked good'. Dude I am seriously disgusted with my whole experience to be completely honest. All my doc said was 'we got a lot of tissue'..yea, too much male thingy head! lol


Anyway, just chill back and take it easy. Don't stress on the ride, just pop some pain pills and get some rest. Congrats again man.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: shaknbake on March 22, 2012, 02:12:01 PM
Way to go Showtime!  Hopefully your ride shows up soon, and you can go chill out at home.  No better place to relax and heal than at home, in your own bed or recliner.   ;D
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 22, 2012, 04:03:47 PM
Thanks guys.  I'll be sure to update throughout the weekend, as well as be on here to ask questions, im sure!   for now im skipping the percocets he gave me.   im gonna try to tough it out, I've always admired that scene in Road House when Patrick swayze skips the pain meds.  :-)    oh! And I got a ride.  I posted on facebook: "anybody off of work today, have a car and want to make $50 bucks?! Message me for details!"   And it worked! I told the girl who got me that I had to have two cysts removed and didn't want my family to worry.   She seemed to buy it. 
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 22, 2012, 04:45:43 PM
Thanks guys.  I'll be sure to update throughout the weekend, as well as be on here to ask questions, im sure!   for now im skipping the percocets he gave me.   im gonna try to tough it out, I've always admired that scene in Road House when Patrick swayze skips the pain meds.  :-)    oh! And I got a ride.  I posted on facebook: "anybody off of work today, have a car and want to make $50 bucks?! Message me for details!"   And it worked! I told the girl who got me that I had to have two cysts removed and didn't want my family to worry.   She seemed to buy it. 

Haha, nice!

Well the 'hard' part is over now man. Just sit back and chill. Make sure to take it easy, don't go too Swaze just yet lol.. How are those drains treating ya? How much blood you getting in the bulbs?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 22, 2012, 05:21:24 PM
Yup.  That's the plan! I just ate a shitload of spinach salad and dressing, and some cheese and water crackers.  As much as id LOVE to dive into a giant pizza, cheesesteak or Chinese food, im reading that whole foods, specifically fruits and veggies are the best for recovery and scarring.   I don't think I could've timed this much better as the sweet sixteen games are about to start. 45 minutes!    Right now, each bulb is about. 1/4 full.  Will probably drain in a half hour or so.        I can't wait til noon tomorrow when I'll be 24 hours out and can drink a delicious cold beer!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 22, 2012, 05:25:23 PM
Yup.  That's the plan! I just ate a shitload of spinach salad and dressing, and some cheese and water crackers.  As much as id LOVE to dive into a giant pizza, cheesesteak or Chinese food, im reading that whole foods, specifically fruits and veggies are the best for recovery and scarring.   I don't think I could've timed this much better as the sweet sixteen games are about to start. 45 minutes!    Right now, each bulb is about. 1/4 full.  Will probably drain in a half hour or so.        I can't wait til noon tomorrow when I'll be 24 hours out and can drink a delicious cold beer!

Good stuff!

Well you are right on your way my man.. Congrats!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 22, 2012, 08:40:00 PM
OMG. Road house is on right now! What are the chances of that!  Must be divine Providence!     
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 22, 2012, 09:16:06 PM
OMG. Road house is on right now! What are the chances of that!  Must be divine Providence!    
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 22, 2012, 09:20:27 PM
You sure you're not eating those perks? lol
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 22, 2012, 11:58:38 PM
I CANNOT wait to get back into the gym. Was rummaging through my photobucket and saw these pics. All from May-Oct of 2011. Motivation to get back to this.

(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2011-05-17202850.jpg)

(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2011-06-10165444.jpg)

(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab282/chargerfn909/2011-04-23141524.jpg)

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 23, 2012, 11:37:09 PM
I almost did not think that was you in the old photo. Show off!

For some stupid timing, my weight has gone back up in the months leading up to the surgery. My strength and endurance is still good, but I haven been eating like crap (biggest reason for fat) and not working out every day like I used to.

I am hoping my surgery will be sufficient motivation to drop down again in weight, but got two weeks of being off exercise. But I can work on eating. This weekend I am stocking the house with healthy eats for the week I am on my ass at home.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 24, 2012, 10:11:41 AM
Taking alot to not call in those pain mess.  My left nipple excision woke me up a few times with a severe piercing pain, seemed to last for maybe 90 seconds at a time. Anybody experience this?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 26, 2012, 07:51:08 AM
On the train, heading to the doc to have the drains yanked out, can't wait to have these things out!  Today will also be the first time the vest comes off, since I've been home alone,  I haven't been ballsy enough to take on such a task by myself.   Hoping that everything looks good!  I honestly think that I'm more nervous today than I was on Thursday!   Will update in a bit.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 26, 2012, 10:24:07 AM
Drains are out!   Quick pain, but nothing too earth shattering.   Having the tape ripped off of my hairy CHEST (not breasts!) wasn't fun, but it's over quickly, like a band-aid.  I thought about shaving my chest and stomach prior to the surgery for this reason, but I am glad I didn't, that would've itched like hell under the compression vest and would've made the weekend very irritating. 

Dr. Lo said that he was very happy with how it's healing and said that the scars look great.  I was told that he lipo'd 250cc's from each side, as well as a each gland.  (Not sure what he said the metric was for the gland, ounces maybe? but that's alot.  15(ounce, some other metric) on the right side, and 16(ounce, some other metric) on the left side.

I looked down at my chest and things SEEM to look ok.  Don't want to jinx myself until I actually see them directly in the mirror tonite when I shower.  But even then, I'm going to do my best only to glance and not INSPECT for a few weeks, as more change will happen.  In the meantime, I plan to spend my lunchbreaks walking around the city for fresh air and exercise.  As well as a ridiculously healthy diet, comprised of mostly fruits, veggies, and vitamins.   Dr. Lo said that I can start wearing Under Armor whenever I want, but I feel that getting a size Medium (I'm a large) over my head might be rather difficult; at least while the scars are still healing.

Again, I don't want to be too giddy, but I do feel cautiously excited.

Can't wait to shower!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 26, 2012, 12:34:09 PM
Congrats!


your post reminds me, I will try to remember to ask how much gets removed tomorrow, But I doubt I will remember to ask.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 26, 2012, 01:00:17 PM
Good stuff.  Keep in mind - we think about lipo in terms of volume (100cc's, 250cc's, 500cc's, etc) However, when dealing with lipo, the amount is not the most important factor - contouring is.  Your doc should do his best to take out fat to help shape your chest as you need some fat there. I think it's better to emphasize the contouring and how you want to look after surgery in all positions - relaxed, flexed, arms up, etc., rather than the pure volume of how much gets sucked out. 

Just a follow up to a previous post of yours:

"I kind of have the opposite concern with my doc. He started talking lipo from the first words. I looked at him and said - "ya I know I got extra fat on me (I am a middle aged tall big guy) and thats great with the lipo, but what about the breast tissue removal?" The doctor then talked about using a cutting cannula "as needed". I said to him don't make the assumption that this is all fat, because I know it is not.

Based on your experience I am going to restate my concern (tissue removal) forcefully again when he starts drawing on me next Tuesday morning.  Also I think my doctor agreed somewhere to revision surgery if needed, I would only need to pay anesthesiologist. Will check paper work."

Dr. Lo also said the same thing to me, that he'd start the lipo FIRST and then 'go from there' - which threw me off, as removing the breast gland was first and foremost on my mind.  Make sure you restate that you want the gland out, it would truly suck if you went through it all just to have fat removed but not the gland!  So make sure you forcefully state your concerns, but I'm pretty sure that he knows what you're looking for.   What time is your appointment and where is it being done?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 26, 2012, 03:44:20 PM
Showtime620, thanks.

Corssfit, sorry for stepping on your thread

I have to be at the office at 11:30am. Procedures (I am having two) begin at 12:30pm.  It is being done in a northern suburb outside of Chicago, by Dr. Bloch.

Thanks for letting me know your guy started with lipo and was focused on that. Besides the email is sent, I will work on a list of questions tonight to bring with me.



Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 26, 2012, 04:38:13 PM
If I know Crossfit as well as I think I know Crossfit, he won't mind that we're stepping on his thread!  It makes our conversations easier to keep track of.

Cool, man.  I'm excited for you.  It's gonna be great.  Shoot us an update - on Crossfit's thread! - when you're in post-op if you're feeling bored!  I'll be looking forward to reading it around 5:00pm EST tomorrow afternoon!  :-)

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 26, 2012, 07:03:36 PM
Whats up guys, just got home from my snowboarding trip. Had a blast.


Glad to see everyone is doing good! -- My right nip crease seems to be almost out, but still looks a lil sucked in basically at the incision. My left is gonna take some more time for sure. I really think  losing some bodyfat and getting in the gym is gonna do wonders. I go back Thursday for my 3 week check up, I am gonna ask about the fat on the upper portion and see whats up on the slight indentations. --Regardless, I look TEN times better in a shirt. I am a fatty right now, so truly cannot wait to get back in the gym!


GreatLakes, looks like today is your big day! I hope everything goes well bro, gonna be huge for you.

Also, I WANT you guys to post here, this is not just my thread; I like it to be a spot for all of us that went through, or are going through this about the same time a place to conjugate :)


Showtime, how'd it look when you showered?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 26, 2012, 11:55:14 PM
Nice, man. Did you feel any restrictions with your chest?

greatlakes big day is tomorrow, Tuesday the 27th, at 12.30. (Chicago time), So by about 5.00pm our time, he should updating in post-op.  I'm pumped to see how it goes!

Took my first shower!  Probably the longest shower product my life. I wanted to sign on here and ask about the sterile strips, but didn't want to wait for a response, I will email my doctor tmrw as well,  but sterile strips on the nip incisions - leave them on in the shower? He gave me gauze and tape, but no sterile strips, which I didn't think about until I was in the shower., o I showered around them.

Due to the sterile strips that I didn't take off, I didn't get a good look at the incisions, but the chest itself looks decent. Def a WEIRD feeling to not look down and see pointy titties.  standing straight and unflexed, I look pretty even. When flexing, the right left looks a bit more concaved than the left side, but im not really upset.  He said there is still swelling and other changes that will happen, So I'm looking forward to see If it changes. But even still,  If it stays how it is right now, I'll be content.

Any idea how to pull up pics onto the thread from my phone?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 27, 2012, 12:25:04 AM
Also, I'm thrilled to hear that the creases are working their ways out.  That is stellar news!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 27, 2012, 08:41:56 AM
Yo Greatlakes. Wake up, man! It's your big day!!  You'll be all done in 8 hours!   Get ready for the drains!  :-) 

The only bad thing about having a procedure at noon is that you can't eat all day, but it's a small price to pay.

Please kick any nerves and paranoia out the window and jump in head first, you're gonna be thrilled.   I look forward to healing with you!

Prayers and well wishes are being sent your way, bro.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 27, 2012, 10:38:11 AM
Been up since f'ing 4 am !!!  Thirsty and hungry.  Keeping busy around the home to keep my mind off things.  Spent some time in the surgery success section, cultivating some good vibes as suggested. Drains may or may not be required, will let you know when I can. Some of you may recall I am getting two procedures done at once - gyno is the main procedure, but having some minor neck laser lipo tossed in while I am under. So this should be some change for me.

Time to go get showered, in loose clothes, and have my questions printed out for final chat with doctor before procedure.

Talk to you guys later.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 27, 2012, 11:06:42 AM
Good stuff!  Expect drains.  IF you don't get them, you're a lucky man. But just expect them, eventhough they aren't that bad.

We know you're having 2 procedures, man. That's why we're so pumped for you.  You're gonna feel great!

Please remember to wear a BUTTON-UP shirt!  I wore a loose fitting t-shirt, not thinking, and was unable to take it over my head until yesterday while I was with the doctor getting the drains out.  You're most likely gonna have chest lipo done through your armpits, so you won't be able to put on deodorant or shower.  You're going to smell interesting, so being able to change a shirt at the very least is a small happiness.    Good luck!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 27, 2012, 01:54:44 PM
Good stuff brotha! --From my understanding there should be a least slight indentations when arms are raised up and/or flexing. Not huge, or sometimes not really all that noticeable, but flat or a SLIGHT indentation would mean there isn't any excess gland.

My doc told me to leave the sterile strips on until they fell off. About 2 weeks post op, 1 corner on one strip was peeling so I just pulled em off. I probably should have left em, bc on my left side I could kinda see the incision SLIGHTLY opened, but honestly it was like 90% healed. I was just impatient, so just leave em be. They hang strong through showers, so dont even worry about that.

What kind of phone do you have? Create a photobucket username login (on the comp), then download the Photobucket app. You'll be able to upload them directly to PB from your phone. Then log onto the actual website (on the comp) and you just copy/paste the [ i m g ] blahblah.jpg [ / i m g ] (no spaces there) to the forum.


edit: Oh, and little to no restrictions while boarding. My left (the shittier breast) looks a bit swollen on that damn upper-outter quadrant, its also a little tender to the touch. Both pecs are actually a little tender (mainly surrounding the  areola area), but nothing crazy. I think I am gonna go try to do a really light-weight full body workout and some cardio tonight. Only issue is I came home with a bit of a sore throat and mild head cold, so i'll have to see how I am feeling.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 27, 2012, 03:46:25 PM
Yea, that's what I'm reading, too.  My only worry is that the slight indent is more prominent on the right and not really at all on the left.   But again, if it stays like this and doesn't indent any further, I'll be pleased.  That being said, being only 5 days post op, I am expecting more changes to take place as changes are a part of this game.  However, it certainly sounds like I have a TON of decline bench press in my future!

I emailed Lo today about the strips and he said the same thing:
Jason:
If the steristrips are clean and not peeling off, leave on for as long as possible.
If they are getting dirty, soiled or smelly, then gently tease off and put some neosporin on.
Dr. Lo, MD

For now, I'll be gentle and use the neosporin only on the lipo armpit holes until the strips fall off.    Ya know, as I type this, I bet the reason they want the strips on is so that people like you don't start inspecting and critiquing the work too soon before the body has any time to recover!  :-)
Glad to see that snowboarding was issue free.  You are well on your way, Mister Crossfit.

I've got an android, I'll look for that app after work.

I'm pumped for Greatlakes' update!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 27, 2012, 04:46:43 PM
Done. Still a little woosey. Went well at this point. I had the twilight thing, went out shortly after landing on operating table. Woke up to nurse slapping me on shoulder and wife in recovery room.

I am glad I had the questions written out. Said all fat all tissue - any glands - it was ALL coming out. He drew on chest and said well, get ready. i said wait and started to read more questions, at which point he FORGOT he was doing neck, and then drew on there too. S  SHEESH  - nurse said not to worry as when he got into the operating room it was all written out - gyno and neck.

Had to wait for surgery in prep/recovery area where gal was recovering and talking to her husband about her boob job.  Wife and I had a few smiles. Gal was loopy as all hell after procedure.

No major pain, not much worse than a good bench press session, but I may still have pain meds in my system. 1250 CC removed, but that's chest AND neck. NO DRAINS -yeah!.

I will hear more on Friday when I check in. Worst part so far is the stupid head wrap for my neck procedure. My chest feels flat in front, but sides I don't know - he drew way back on sides and said he would get them out - goal was totally flat. Too early of course to say anything.

Time to rest now.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 27, 2012, 05:10:14 PM
Great news man! Glad everything went smooth, now its time to just sit back and relax!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 27, 2012, 05:43:01 PM
Fantastic news!  Glad you were able to ask all of your questions; it's certainly good for the psyche right before you walk into the operating room.

No drains?!  You lucky bastard!!  Good for you, dude. 

I assume the neck skin needs some tightness to help draw the skin back in, hence the head wrap.  How long does that need to be on?

I'm sure he got it all out on the sides; again, I think it's all one connected piece.

Can I make a suggestion for your recovery? When I got home, the first thing I thought about was getting a pizza, and I truly thought about it 30 times a day while at home.   However, I ended up opting against it and eating healthy. I think you should go that route; it's better for your body and will be much more valuable in helping your body heal.  Not to mention, you don't want to feel completely full and bloated while wearing a tight compression vest as it will amplify your discomfort.

We're proud of you.  Enjoy the healing process!!  Can't wait for pictures, keep us updated.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 28, 2012, 05:53:12 AM
Thanks guys,

I am up early again. I bled alot yesterday. Through my pads, through vest, through shirt and on to bed. I was told first 24 hours there would be a lot with this procedure type (holes on sides). It does appear to stopped. I will take shower later this morning. Emailed doc for a second vest so I can wash this one properly.

I had bad asymmetry on right side, large side moob on right. Running my hand over vest it appears he really nuked that side, flat on front and side. The left side which was not as bad now feels larger, maybe due to swelling? In other words at this early stage the left side is bigger. I know swelling can vary, and perfect symmetry. Looking at profile with vest is strange to see my profile change.....hey is my belly now sticking out past my chest??? - HA! Damn should have had him work on that too...LOL!

The neck hurts more right now. More than chest hurt. The wraps are irritating (rubberized tape all over my head). I look freaking silly. Good thing is that these wraps come off Friday afternoon (at first followup) or Saturday morning. At night sleeping I have to wrap it again, but for days it will soon be off. Luckily my oldest daughter is out of town till Saturday and my youngest is a very young one and thinks I look cool (daddy got bump on head !)

Showtime620 - yep I stocked the home with good eats. My first meal was a bowl of brown rice, veggies, lean organic beef mix. I have lots of fruits, whole grain crackers, veggies, low fat Greek yogurts, and a large turkey breast to put in oven today.

I am taking photos and keeping a log.... but guys I am a middle sged guy and they are not pretty. Give me a few days to look at them and see how I feel putting them up.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 28, 2012, 09:33:22 AM
Gonna get a second vest? Man, I admire your cleanliness! My vest has only been off for 5 showers, at 20 minutes a pop.  Still has blood, sweat, stink, that orangey stuff they put on your skin for surgery and blue marker, looks ridiculous - and smells just as bad.  Washing would be smart, but I haven't want to wait for it to dry, or, put it in the dryer and risk having it shrink.  I plan to go get some tight, white (to worn under work shirts) under armor; and hopefully I can throw this vest away!

As for your asymmetry - how big of a dude are you? Interesting to not the size difference.  When you take the vest off to shower, you'll be able to judge better as there might be some kind of padding under that particular spot due to the vest. 

The side profile thing is nuts, and although our guts are big and sloppy, the compressed vest pushes the front belly and side love handles out further than normal.  That being said! We should lose our guts.  If we're going to put ourselves through this pain in the butt procedure and recovery to not have titties, we might as well live healthier lifestyles all around, ya know?  (I see below that you've already started this process with the food you've stocked!  Nice work.)

I'm glad you're taking photos for your own log, that's great, and I'm sure you'll be very pleased with the difference in a few months.  I didn't mean to pressure you into putting them up if you aren't comfortable; entirely your call, man.

Happy Healing!
Head tape would definitely be annoying, but Friday will be here before you know it.  Good job planning the surgery while the oldest was away!!!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 28, 2012, 10:11:23 AM
Well, I already spent a mint, so i ordered some nice breathable neck/chin wraps for night time (f this rubber tape!) - and a full compression vest (with belly) from a website. If doctor gives another part vest today then I will have three. I also ordered a couple of different stage 2 compression shirts. I want to wear fresh garments all the time.

Size? I am almost 6-3" and I weigh 247. I used to weigh 276 and it was mostly fat. I dropped over 1-2 years ago down to 235 and then started hitting weights and gained muscle. I went from 44 pants to 38 pants. I have had nice compliments from others on how I look now. Gained a little fat back in the last 3 months due to not being strict on eating.

Weight is hard to focus on now that I am including heavy weight lifting. So instead I would like to drop to size 36 pants by end of year... and I can do it. Belly fat, unlike moobs can be reduced through diet and exercise

Will keep you updated.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 28, 2012, 10:53:28 AM
Eveything sounds good for you guys! Very happy for you.


Man, got outta this showerer this morning and as much as I am trying to make the best of this, the contouring is REALLY shitty on my chest. I have my 3 week post op tomorrow and I am really going to express my dislike in everything. $5000 is too much to pay to just 'go with the flow'. Even if the creases continue to improve, the fat on top of my nips, upper chest, and even side (like over by armpits) is just not ok. The indentation isn't going to get better, when I lean over with my shirt off, its plain to see where the tissue was removed vs where it wasn't. Honestly, I can try to get in tip top shape and it may look better but that's not why we get the surgery. It's to get our chest contoured to look like a normal persons damn chest. Frustrating as hell.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 28, 2012, 10:56:07 AM
Ha, yea good point!!  What's another few bucks!

A 36 inch waist will be a great goal for you!

I'm currently a little under 36 inch waist, but wear 36 pants; 6'0 212 lbs.  I'm in the same boat, going to be very nutritionally strict and incorporate a DEDICATED workout/cardio routine.  I'd like to be back in 32 inch pants by the end of the summer, weighing in the 175-180 range.    If feels SO amazing thinking about developing a new body without being inhibited by boobs and puffy nipples!   Going to be such a great summer for us, man!    
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 28, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
Eeek, Crossfit.  Just saw that you posted while I was responding.

I'm gonna have to go back and look at pictures again, as the only thing that sticks out in my mind is the nipple creases, I didn't notice the other things you're talking about. 

You're saying that we you lean over, without flexing or tensing or brushing your teeth or anything, it's indented? How does it look when tensed?  Also you've fat on the upper chest and the sides which is lumped out?  (Just trying to get a visual)  Have these lumps/irregularities been there everyday since post-op? Or have they 'popped up'?  Maybe could be swelling and scar tissue?

Definitely talk to him and express your dissatisfaction tomorrow if it's that bad and ask him what he can do to fix it - you did spend FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.  Maybe it needs more time?  I'll look forward to his answer and I really hope he is helpful!

Update on nipple creases?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 28, 2012, 11:16:56 AM
Eeek, Crossfit.  Just saw that you posted while I was responding.

I'm gonna have to go back and look at pictures again, as the only thing that sticks out in my mind is the nipple creases, I didn't notice the other things you're talking about. 

You're saying that we you lean over, without flexing or tensing or brushing your teeth or anything, it's indented? How does it look when tensed?  Also you've fat on the upper chest and the sides which is lumped out?  (Just trying to get a visual)  Have these lumps/irregularities been there everyday since post-op? Or have they 'popped up'?  Maybe could be swelling and scar tissue?

Definitely talk to him and express your dissatisfaction tomorrow if it's that bad and ask him what he can do to fix it - you did spend FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.  Maybe it needs more time?  I'll look forward to his answer and I really hope he is helpful!

Update on nipple creases?

Nah, the knotty fat bumps I feel were def pre-op. In fact, they were one of the  main reasons I wanted the surgery. -- The 'puffed' out one is more-so on my left (prob pic right), the one that has a pretty gnarly crease. If I look head on in the mirror, it just looks like shit. You'd have to assume I had some kind of surgery, OR simply deformed.

When I lean over to brush my teeth, yes you can def see where its sucked up tight (with the tissue being removed), opposed to the surround area. If I flex they look all sucked in on the bottom half..looks bad. As of TODAY, i'd be more self conscience about the way my chest looks that I was pre-op. The only benefit so far is while wearing a shirt, I look a lot better...but that was NOT the point.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 28, 2012, 11:36:51 AM
darn.  This does not sound good.   I'm guessing the knotty fat lumps appear to be more prominent looking without the gland to counteract and balance it out.  As for the gnarly creased nip, I'm still going to hold out hope that it will fix itself.  Stiches and tape and compression vest can do that; let's wait a little bit longer for that.  (I say "let's" because I'm kind of in the same boat; haven't taken the sterile strips off yet, but the corner of one has started to peel and I'm seeing a gnarly crease as well.  Just going to try and ignore it for the time being.)

The bottom half of my right side looks sucked in/concaved when I flex, too - which I will definitely be asking about at my next appointment on Monday.  Hoping that our doctors say the body will distribute fat deposit to those spots.

Can't see the pics on this computer at work, only on my phone - which I oddly lost/misplaced(?) in my bedroom this morning. Spent an hour looking for it and missed my first train, so I figured I'd go to work without a phone; for the first time since I've had a phone - i Feel naked.    Hopefully I'll find it tonite and can take another look.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 28, 2012, 11:53:20 AM
Yea, the crease is a small concern, its the shitty contouring that I am worried about. He may tell me to get to 10% bf and ill look good, but darn man; I probably could have looked pretty good pre-op with 10% bf. That's not the point; there are dudes way heavier than me that got MUCH better outcomes because the doc knew what he was doing, and more importantly cared. This guy always seems to be trying to rush me in and out and I am not gonna let it happen tomorrow.

Basically, if you look at me head on it looks like my nips are almost half round. The top looks totally normal, then they come down and like straight across/sunken in. -- From the side its noticeable, but not as bad, looks more like a pec ... I TRULY believe Lipo would fix all of this. Sadly, I think I am just gonna start saving now.. Makes me SO sad man, I REALLY thought I got the best guy around. In retrospect the first guy I saw that wasn't board certified (and 1k cheaper) prob would have done the best job. He explained he mainly did lipo then removed only SOME gland and sure to NOT take too much. He stressed that big time, where as my 'expert' acted pretty damn confident/arrogant, then jacked me up. That's my luck, over think everything then get f'd. hah
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 28, 2012, 12:34:20 PM
Crossfit,

I am sorry about all this.  Except for crease - i like the way you look, but it is about your view not mine. You were not that bad, actually looked pretty good before, so you would think it would be easy to adjust to your desired level.

After your Thursday appointment, I would get a second opinion. I would not suggest going back to the first doc (cause he might have an axe to grind with you skipping him). Find another brand new qualified guy and make an appointment to have him check you out. Bring all photos. Armed with a second opinion you might have legit ammo to go after your guy if the new doc confirms your concerns - or he might just tell you it will heal better and not to worry. I feel you need an objective expert consult right now. Too many emotions we have after surgery.

I am about to take my vest and head wrap off in an hour for a shower. I am trying to keep my expectations to my own level of tshirt worthy.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 28, 2012, 12:50:53 PM
*sigh*   Man, this is tough.  Greatlakes is right, there are too many emotions after surgery so it's hard to look at things objectively, maybe going to another doc is the best bet.  And HOPEFULLY, you will be told to give it a few more weeks.

Just to clarify, your nipples appear messed up when looking head on, relaxed, right?    I'm perplexed as to why you would get that affect, my understanding is that the puffiness comes from the gland, not fat.   But I could most certainly be wrong.

Best of luck, Greatlakes.  Can't wait to hear what you think.

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 28, 2012, 01:11:46 PM
Yea it looks bad relaxed then even worse when flexed..ok..it basically looks like he removed from mid nipple and down. Nothing above. Hard to explain
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 28, 2012, 01:21:24 PM
So to your point, you think that if you went back and lipo'd the top half from mid nipple up the chest, you'd be evened out and look good?   I look forward to see what your doc says tomorrow.  Try to demand revision lipo surgery from him, dude.  (easier said than done, I know, but it can't hurt to give it a shot.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 28, 2012, 01:39:30 PM
So to your point, you think that if you went back and lipo'd the top half from mid nipple up the chest, you'd be evened out and look good?   I look forward to see what your doc says tomorrow.  Try to demand revision lipo surgery from him, dude.  (easier said than done, I know, but it can't hurt to give it a shot.

Yea, thats what I am thinking... i am gonna try, but I already know theres just about no chance. I am gonna really try to show how upset I am, if he cares maybe he will reason with me
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 28, 2012, 10:16:34 PM
Gotta keep attitudes positive, man. Again, much easier said than done.  What time is the appointment?  I really hope that this guy surprises us, us like time believe that good people still exist in the world.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 28, 2012, 10:33:32 PM
Gotta keep attitudes positive, man. Again, much easier said than done.  What time is the appointment?  I really hope that this guy surprises us, us like time believe that good people still exist in the world.

at 4pm... Yea man, we shall see. For now I just can't wait to get in the gym and start training. It will be good for my mind and body.


I was planning on starting cardio/light weight stuff this week but I came home from my trip with a cold. Pounding vit C and gonna hit some theraflu and crawl into bed here soon.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 28, 2012, 11:25:52 PM
Agreed. It's amazing how much you miss these things when you aren't able to do them.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 29, 2012, 03:46:41 PM
It's almost 4:00, Crossfit.  Good luck!!!  Give em hell.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 29, 2012, 04:29:59 PM
It's almost 4:00, Crossfit.  Good luck!!!  Give em hell.

Only 2 over here lol.. Definitely plan on given em hell though!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 29, 2012, 05:16:26 PM
Oh, No kidding.  For some reason, I've been thinking you lived in Florida.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 29, 2012, 07:50:47 PM
OK, so good and bad I suppose..

He said I was healing fine, started the usual 'rush you the f outta here' thing, but then I expressed my dislike in the contour. He then said that the only thing he saw was the crease (in my left nip) and said it should come out. I pointed up to the fatty shit on the upper/outer quadrant and he said that it was just fat, not gland. He recommended that I slim down some, but if need be he'd go back in and lipo it out.

I was definitely relieved to hear him even mention lipo, I asked about fees and he just kinda chuckled and said they would be 'significantly lower'. I am assuming I'd just pay for anesthesia. As he was walking out he told me 'we could maybe even do it under local', then strolled on out. Never really heard of lipo being done under local, but who knows. -- I KNOW the dude is a really good surgeon. He's world renown for being a 'breast expert', I just question why he half assed my surgery? Maybe he just overlooked it? Either way, you'd think with all his experience, it would have been done correctly after the first shot.

However, I am definitely relieved; I honestly thought he'd be more of a male thingy and pretty much say I would have to start from scratch if I wasn't happy. The fact he seemed cool with doing the lipo for cheap makes me feel a little more at ease.

He said no more vest or anything, "just go train hard!" lol...If that dude reminds me of how fat I am one more time I am gonna scream..lmao


Anyway, main focus now is the gym and diet. Get down in bodyfat and see how it all shapes out. I may have him lipo in a couple months, just for the sake of not having to worry about having these nasty fat deposits in my chest no matter where my  weight goes the rest of my life.

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 29, 2012, 08:04:43 PM
Where's the bad news part?!  Sounds like it was successful, man.  Glad he thinks you're healing well.  No more vest or compression of any kind?  That's pretty awesome. And you're cleared to lift as heavy as you want?  Nice.  I'm anxious to see how much you can press after being off for So long.  I'm afraid I'm not gonna be able to Rep 135! 

Anyway, glad it went well.  When does he expect the creases to clear up?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 29, 2012, 10:16:17 PM
Haha well, I suppose the 'bad' would be the fact I may have to go under the knife again and pay more $$. Going under the knife isn't the issue, it would be the $$. Not sure just how much, I am sure it wouldn't be too bad; but the fact he didn't get it right the first time at my expense ...sucks.


Like I said though, focus is on getting in the gym and busting my butt. We'll see how everything else plays out.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 29, 2012, 10:32:21 PM
Well time will tell for all of us on results, but it is good you are cleared to move forward.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 29, 2012, 10:41:41 PM
Well time will tell for all of us on results, but it is good you are cleared to move forward.

Yea, I agree.. Also pretty reassuring that he's open to lipo if need be.


How's the left side doing?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 29, 2012, 11:10:34 PM
In the grand scheme of things, what's another grand? Sucks - yes, but we must look ahead, ya know?

did he say if the lower half of your chest would fill out when flexing?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 29, 2012, 11:27:43 PM
In the grand scheme of things, what's another grand? Sucks - yes, but we must look ahead, ya know?

did he say if the lower half of your chest would fill out when flexing?

I agree.. I'd happily dish out a grand to GUARANTEE have a nice shaped chest.


TBH I didn't ask. It's like god damn target practice (on a moving target) with him. He's always pushing forward staying positive in a kind of fast pace manor, and you are trying to remember all the shit to ask him. I think its half scar tissue that will loosen up, and half fat to be honest. I think a lot of my issues will resolve with fat loss, but I don't think I will be completely satisfied until I get the lipo and he actually trieS to SCULPT my chest. When you read that Dr (Berments? or whatever) posts, he clearly was a male chest sculpture artist, not just a gyne removal dr. It's hard to find a doc that cares as much as that dude, but at the same time he probably would have cost 7500+ plus travel fees.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 30, 2012, 07:26:53 AM
The left side is actually down a little this morning from yesterday. I would say 10 percent less ballooning in the last 24 hours. Still not looking good, or feeling good, but heading in the right direction I think. Hey it has been only three days right?

About sculpting - my doc used those words on my chest. He used tissue removal and lipo and all sorts of stuff. For 6700 bucks he should have given me the works.  But I kind of ignored that term  - as in my case I did not expect him to "sculpt" a sloppy middle aged man. Thats why I am sticking with my own personal expectations for results on my chest. The neck was pure laser lipo and cost me and extra 2300, so far those improvements are modest at best, but at lease there was no brushing or scaring there. But hey lots more can change in the next month.

I go in this morning for longer post op meeting. yesterday was rushed on hemotoma evaluation. Want to discuss results, talk about tissue vs fat removal (what did he find) etc.



 
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 30, 2012, 09:24:38 AM
Good stuff, Greatlakes.  You're right, it's only been THREE days after a fairly serious surgery, the body takes time to heal.   I look forward to hearing about his findings!

Cross.  I hear you.  I'm hopeful that your results will turn out well, even if lipo needs to be done.  Did he say when he'd be able to revisit?

As for Bermant, I've read tons of his post and he seems to know what he's talking about, but his AMOUNT of replies scares me.  Almost like Blauuu, talking about his own greatness in order to drum up sales on these forums.  However, if what he said was true, he certainly makes a case to really know what he's doing.   When is your next follow up with the gyne-expert?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 30, 2012, 09:56:16 AM
I agree. I get annoyed like hell reading through his copy/paste replies, but he did fully devote his self to gyne and that's basically what I was getting at.


He didn't mention when he'd be able to do anything, but I go back May 14th, little over a month from now. That will be 2 months post op. If I feel the fatty stuff is still there, I will definitely start discussing the revision. He seems to have a very shitty memory, so that's my next fear that he'll forget he mentioned the lipo deal lol.. Time will tell, but I will raise hell if I am not satisfied. Everyone I've told about the situation (friends, wife etc) seem more angry than me. For 5k everyone thinks he should have done it right the first time..and I agree.


I was laying in bed last night with my shirt off; and honestly I can def see how he would think I was good to go if he never proped me up. My nips lay perfectly flat, and I dont appear to have ANY fat. However as soon as I sit up/stand etc you can definitely see it. You'd THINK after 20 years, he'd know how to position you to assure the best contour, but he does do a shit load of bbers with low bf, so maybe he's just used to guttin' out the gland and moving forward.

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 30, 2012, 10:53:49 AM
May 14th, got it.  Hopefully you can drop 10 lbs by then and in conjunction with your body's healing, you'll see some changes take place.

Maybe he knows what he's doing and we're just being too judgemental, too soon.  We'll see the progress by May 14th and go from there - if still shitty, THEN I'll start talking shit and sending him hatemail.   :-)
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 30, 2012, 11:10:07 AM
May 14th, got it.  Hopefully you can drop 10 lbs by then and in conjunction with your body's healing, you'll see some changes take place.

Maybe he knows what he's doing and we're just being too judgemental, too soon.  We'll see the progress by May 14th and go from there - if still shitty, THEN I'll start talking shit and sending him hatemail.   :-)

haha amen. Basically, if they uncrease I think i'll be cool once I drop some lbs and get some muscle tone back. It's not the fat that I worry about (strictly from a physical standpoint), its the crease; I just so happen to think the crease and upper chest fat go hand n hand...We shall see. Hardly even April so I have a couple months to turn it on.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on March 30, 2012, 05:23:12 PM
Hey Greatlakes, did you feel your hematoma coming on?    I know I'm a few days past you, 8 days post-op, but I seem to be swelling up pretty bad around the outside perimeter or both pecs, starting from about 2 inches under the armpits and across the underside of each chest muscle; feels sore and tender to the touch, but also kind of numb.  No bruising - yet.  Have either of you read about anything like this?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on March 30, 2012, 07:48:17 PM
Hey Greatlakes, did you feel your hematoma coming on?    I know I'm a few days past you, 8 days post-op, but I seem to be swelling up pretty bad around the outside perimeter or both pecs, starting from about 2 inches under the armpits and across the underside of each chest muscle; feels sore and tender to the touch, but also kind of numb.  No bruising - yet.  Have either of you read about anything like this?

Take a pic? I honestly think mine swole up a bit around 8-10 days.. I think I am still swollen; only real reason I think that is I am tender in a few spots and they just look a little puffy. Also, where those 'fat knots' are, its pretty damn tender, wonder how much is scar tissue...


Anyway, I think you'd know by the size if it was a hematoma..
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on March 30, 2012, 09:23:24 PM
Hey Greatlakes, did you feel your hematoma coming on?    I know I'm a few days past you, 8 days post-op, but I seem to be swelling up pretty bad around the outside perimeter or both pecs, starting from about 2 inches under the armpits and across the underside of each chest muscle; feels sore and tender to the touch, but also kind of numb.  No bruising - yet.  Have either of you read about anything like this?

It came on quick, and yes I felt it.  By time I got home it felt swollen on that left side, when I took my vest in the morning my entire pec/moob was blood red/purple and huge.  It was not the swelling it was the discoloration. The blood and pain is now moving down the side of my body towards my hips as the doctor said. My right side is now more swollen then be before - but it is not a hemotoma.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 01, 2012, 11:27:49 PM
Hey fellas. Sorry I've been mia this weekend. How's everyone's healing since the last time we chatted?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 02, 2012, 01:30:27 AM
Doing ok...still patiently waiting on everything to shape out..played a softball game tonight and feeling way less tender, more flexibility, and running doesn't irritate the chest much at all...gym starts tomorrow, excited to get my ass back in shape...

On a happy note, I went out and bought 4 new tshirts today. That really thin, comfy material (v neck) plain colored t's that I wouldn't have dared to wear pre op..they look great man, it's SO nice to wear a simple plain, comfy t without having to constantly worry!! They are going to look even better whe. I get my upper chest development, shoulders, and my 18.5 inch arms back :)


How are you doing bro?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 02, 2012, 07:46:06 AM
Great to here how you look in t shirts crossfit. Good to be active huh?

Showtime620, whats up with your healing. Not heard alot of details from you on your process lately.

I am doing okay about 6 days post op. Taking my last day today off work, a full week. Will see doctor at 4pm, then he is gone for 10 days on (another) vacation. Able to comfortably do small things, get groceries, make bed, etc but I get tired very quickly. Still bummed about how badly beat up my left chest looks. Huge dark purple and bruise over my whole left side of body now. I am bummed it might be several more weeks (maybe 3-4) before I can feel comfortable with certain activities with wife (if you know what I am saying). This waiting to see what the real results will be is difficult. Even with all this swelling and discoloration, I know the doc removed a bunch of fat and tissue so I know what i am seeing is swelling, blood, and fluid right now. I am thankful for the posts from Dr. Jacobs and other well known gyno experts in the  "ask the doctor" section which address swelling and hemotomas as common and normal and several weeks maybe needed to see swelling go down and to see results.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 02, 2012, 10:10:54 AM
Nice! I'm pleased that you guys are doing well!   

Greatlakes, hearing that you're up and around, doing things comfortably is a wonderful step!   How is the neck doing?  I'm sure the bruising will lighten soon!  How's that healthy diet going? I'm sure that it's benefitting your healing.   As for those 'activities', surely you must feel more comfortable with a big bruis than with a big set of boobies! Tell ya what, I suspect that after my wounds are healed and I'm back in 'action', I'm gonna be like Patrick Bateman in American Psycho, posing in the mirror during these 'activities'.   :-)

Cross - How is your patient shape out going?  Anything shaping in the right direction? Or kind of stagnant at this point?  That's awesome that you were playnig softball with ease! Very cool!    The t-shirt thing is a very happy note! Man, that's great.  I can't WAIT to do that - hopefully I won't be pinching my nipples out of habit!   18.5 inch arms?!  Holy shitt.

As for my healing - today is 11 days since I went under.  I've been trying to not 'crossfit' my chest. (Yes, I've created a new word - 'Crossfit' verb. To scrutinize early, put under the microscope too soon, etc.)    :-)
However, that being said, I do have a few comments. When I went into the office on Monday which was 4 days post-op, Dr. Lo said that I could switch to under armor.  I missed the support of the vest as I each step I took hurt the chest, so I wore the vest each day until Friday. I've been wearing the under armor since, and I feel great.  Still been wearing the vest when I sleep at night, though.  Lipo holes/scars are going away nicely.  The 'hematoma' that I was worried about a few days ago is still there. Certainly not a hematoma, just tenderness along the underside of each pec, but hardly noticeable, not worth taking a picture.  When relaxed and with arms up, things seem to be shaping nicely.  I still have the issue on the right pec when I flex, seems to concave in. It's something I can live with, but I'm hoping it fills in a bit as it looks a bit odd, but again - not too bad.  What I'm anxious/worried/nervous about is the nipples.  Please note: for the my right nipple incision is still covered with the steristrips so I havent seen anything and the nipple appears to be laying flat.  The left nipple, still have the steristrips on, but I can see a TINY bit of the incision (and by tiny bit, I mean a millimeter, maybe)  which still looks not even close to healed.  The left nipples also appears to be pointing down a bit with a crease - but I'm hoping that the stitches and steristrips are causing this.  That being said, I'm eating healthier than I ever have - I think i've eating more frutis and veggies in the last ten days than I have in the last ten years COMBINED - sadly, I'm not kidding.  I've also been RELIGIOUS about drinking tons of water, lemon juice, and APPLE CIDER VINEGAR - which is gross, but supposed to be an amazing healer, or so I've read.  I've also been taking a multivitamin everyday, glutamine and BCAAs to encourage healing and health.  I'm going back to see Dr. Lo today at noon for my second post-op follow up.  I plan to ask about my concaved flexed chest and what I can do to heal scars as nicely as possiblly and see what he says.  Hopefully he thinks everything looks good.  Man, I can't wait to do a push-up. I can't wait to really STRETCH my chest and shoulders.   I can't wait for summer!  And I really can't wait to wear those comfy, loose fitting, plain t-shirts. (without having to pinch my silly looking pointy titties.)   :-)
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 02, 2012, 11:28:35 AM
Nice!-- You're gonna be fine Show, I could tell my nips were being sucked down with the sterile strips on, if you're laying flat now, its only gonna get better.

TBH, I am pretty stagnant. I think my only hope of improving the look is losing bodyfat and toning up my upper chest. I honestly think the right will prob be ok, but my left crease...well, i highly doubt it comes out without either a kenalog shot to help the scar tissue at the issue site, or lipo on the upper part of my nip. Even with a shirt there is a SLIGHT puff nip look on my left, but NOTHING like it was pre-op. I am just playing the waiting game and really gonna try to get in shape.

It's funny as I stand if front of the mirror, if I roll my shoulders back and really try to puff out my chest,  the creases are gone. Chest looks great, but I look like a d-bag with my chest all  puffed out. With that being said i do think I can push my shoulders back and stand up a tad bit more straight on a day-to-day basis. I think all the years of having the moobs has jacked with my posture. Somewhere between the over zealous chest puff, and how I stood pre-op wold be a fair compromise.


Time is the only thing that will tell, we shall see.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 02, 2012, 02:43:12 PM
Update.  Had my meeting with Dr. Lo. at 12.  Been eating lunch and getting ready for a 2pm call, which I'm on now and have some time to type!   I took off my under armor, he lifted each arm and poked around.  He then took tweezers and peeled off the sterilestrips.  I don't really know how to view the incision scars at this point; I mean, they look like 11 day old deep cuts so I really can't judge, but Dr. Lo said that he thinks they will heal beautifully - Hopefully he's right.  He seems quite pleased with how everything is progressing at this point.  When I asked about the slight concavity I have, he said that it was normal and wouldn't look so defined once the swelling underneath my chest subsided, which I guess is a good point.   I told him that I was wearing the vest at night still and he said that unless I wanted to save it as a souvenier that I could throw it out! Which was awesome to hear.  So at night, I can wear underarmor if I want or nothing - which is also awesome. (Still going to wear under armor during the day, though, for two more weeks, I'll probably wear it though for as long as I can though until it starts to get too hot.  I didn't ask about the left nipple crease as I'm hoping it will work itself out.  If not, I'll ask him about it at my next appointment - one month from today.  Left nip is a BIT pointed down, I think due to the crease, but they both seem to be laying flat as of right now.  He said that I can start lifting LIGHTLY at 3 weeks - so April 13th.   Also said that if I want I can buy scar cream in the band-aid aisle, but didn't really push.  However, as you all know, I care about the scars greatly so I'll be researching some products!   have you guys heard of any particular products that are supposed to be good?

Overall, it was a good follow up, but now it's REALLY time to start getting in shape for the summer.  Need to lose at least 20 pounds by june 20th!

PS - Anybody want my vest??!?!?!    :-)
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 03, 2012, 06:42:16 AM
showtime 620, that's great you can dump the vest so early. And burn that vest, we know you did not wash it ! :o

My appointment the other day, my doctor and his nurse were also saying I would heal beautifully - but slowly - 2 months they said before I would be happy. Nurse stayed again after doctor left (she is nice). The nurse continued to reassure me that when I was done on operating table my chest was flat, and looked great and that I am seeing all swelling. She also reminded me again that they took out 1250CC of mixed tissue in my chest, and 120(or 150cc ?) of fat in my neck which she says was really alot for them to get. So she said I am going to see noticeable results in both places over the next 2-3 months as things heal and decrease in swelling.

Doctor did say wait till 4 weeks before I hit the gym again. Originally he had hoped at 2 weeks. I want to hit one size lower in pant size by fall.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 03, 2012, 10:33:44 AM
Good news fellas!


I got back in the gym yesterday, did some back+bi's and 25mins on the stair master. WOW am I sore today lol.. felt great to get back in there, it will be a month or so before I start to return to form though.


Still pretty depressing when I take my shirt off. All I can do is wait it out, but man; these creases don't seem to be going anywhere. I can now deal with everything, but the creases. The slight indentation is OK, the slight puffyness on the top part of nips, OK..but the creases just really F up my appearance. Even the Wife is feeling for me. She knew how bad I wanted this surgery, knew how anal I was on choosing a surgeon; she wanted Dr Corbin. Her Mom, friends, etc etc have all gotten breast augs along with other PS done and swore by him.

In retrospect the 'non board certified' ps I FIRST had my consultation with (1k cheaper) would have been the guy. He explained it was all a piece of cake, lipo then remove only a portion of the gland; and he REALLY stressed the importance of not removing too much. Where as Corbin made it sound like he's been doing this so long I had nothing to worry about. News flash to him, my chest looks like shit. It's up to me to get in tip top shape to try and mask his shitty job, but it's my only option for now.

I can honestly say that the whole 'board certified PS' is a crock. Unless being BC guarnatees a great job with a free revision if need be, why the hell fork out the extra money. My advice to any and everybody would be go with the doc that seems to care and tells you all the right things. Do not go with some guy just bc his name. Corbin never took  his time with me, rushed me in and out, tried to get me for $8700(!!!) until I worked him down to $5k (this should have been the biggest red flag). Even on surgery day I never saw him post op..He just kinda yelled out "we gotta lotta tissue out" as I was rolled into recovery. Ay yiyi, what a pain this has turned out to be!

Happy healing fellas.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 03, 2012, 12:56:00 PM
Good stuff, GL.  Ps - the vest doesn't smell THAT shittyy!  Gonna need to invest in some new underarmor!   But man, for what it is - spandex, essentially, I never knew how EXPENSIVE under armor was!  Obviously, having titties has always precluded me from wearing under armor, so I'm learn just how much this garbage costs!  Any ideas of where to get this cheaper?!

Glad to hear that you're lifting again, Cross, even if lightly.  Do you have any updated pictures of the creases?  Mine seem pretty bad right now, too. But I'm just hoping that they'll eventually work their way out.  I'm curious to see how crummy yours are looking.

You should make a post on here cautioning people about Corbin if his work really is as bad as you say it is.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 03, 2012, 01:08:29 PM
Good stuff, GL.  Ps - the vest doesn't smell THAT shittyy!  Gonna need to invest in some new underarmor!   But man, for what it is - spandex, essentially, I never knew how EXPENSIVE under armor was!  Obviously, having titties has always precluded me from wearing under armor, so I'm learn just how much this garbage costs!  Any ideas of where to get this cheaper?!

Glad to hear that you're lifting again, Cross, even if lightly.  Do you have any updated pictures of the creases?  Mine seem pretty bad right now, too. But I'm just hoping that they'll eventually work their way out.  I'm curious to see how crummy yours are looking.

You should make a post on here cautioning people about Corbin if his work really is as bad as you say it is.

Not even down for pics man. Looks shitty, that's all that needs to be known. Pretty much the same as my first pics, maybe slightly better in 1 aspect, worse in another type of thing.

I actually did, in the 'Ask a doc' section. Wrote out a long post in regards to the whole 'board certified' bs. Which is exactly what it is. Another way for a doc to get more $$$ outta you.

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 03, 2012, 04:12:15 PM
Any ideas of where to get this cheaper?!



I just buy most of my stuff from Amazon. I need V neck undershirts for my work atire. I bought one under-works v neck for 32.99 and one Spanx model 610 (doctor recommended) for $58 bucks.

I am sticking with my phase 1 vest till the end of 4 weeks due my hemotoma.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 03, 2012, 04:27:24 PM
crossfit99,


I am sorry for the way this has gone down, you are pretty far into post op time frame now, and I hoped you would have achieved all you wanted.

If I were to have posted my pics (which I wont openly) from the first week - last 7 days - some here may have told me to call a lawyer or would have puked in their morning coffee. I am extending blind trust and faith right now that what I have been told by doc and nurse on how I will look in 2-3 months will be true. I did my research as well like you. The Doc has all the certifications, the press, former president of the Chicago chapter, references from my two primary care doctors, etc... but Honestly my decision was based on the preop and my comfort with him personally. Since then he has been a bit rushed in my checkups, but he does not seem arrogant or dismissive like your guy. He did all the procedures I asked - lipo, grinder, sides... total nuke. I guess all I have now is did he do it all well?

Before you start saving your money up and make plans, I would go for second opinion (and maybe a third) with a doctor of your choosing. I know that in 2 months if I am still unhappy or concerned that I have not moved in the right direction of healing - that's what I will do.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 03, 2012, 04:42:47 PM
crossfit99,


I am sorry for the way this has gone down, you are pretty far into post op time frame now, and I hoped you would have achieved all you wanted.

If I were to have posted my pics (which I wont openly) from the first week - last 7 days - some here may have told me to call a lawyer or would have puked in their morning coffee. I am extending blind trust and faith right now that what I have been told by doc and nurse on how I will look in 2-3 months will be true. I did my research as well like you. The Doc has all the certifications, the press, former president of the Chicago chapter, references from my two primary care doctors, etc... but Honestly my decision was based on the preop and my comfort with him personally. Since then he has been a bit rushed in my checkups, but he does not seem arrogant or dismissive like your guy. He did all the procedures I asked - lipo, grinder, sides... total nuke. I guess all I have now is did he do it all well?

Before you start saving your money up and make plans, I would go for second opinion (and maybe a third) with a doctor of your choosing. I know that in 2 months if I am still unhappy or concerned that I have not moved in the right direction of healing - that's what I will do.

Thanks man. It really is a kick in the nuts. This was the year man, this was the year I thought I could stroll down to the pool with my son on warm days without a second thought. I thought i'd actually be able to go to the river/lake and not have to stay submerged in water or rush to get a tank top on.  It's tough man.

As far as another opinion, it would really suck cause I'd be looking at another 3k+ for lipo, where as my current guy would do it for much less. I do think he's capable, I just think he got ahead of his self. The truth is I don't think he wants me roaming the streets speaking bad about him, or loading up on all the review sites and letting him have it...Though, I just may be another fly on the wall for him; that remains to be seen. He mentioned lipo under local, which (on a total guess) should be under 1k. When I asked about the lipo he just said "significantly less", which is still bs to me; I feel surgeons should honor their work. Let's be honest, these guys are filthy f'n rich, if they do a sub-par job they should come outta pocket to make it right.


I am sure you'll be fine man. I knew RIGHT away that something wasn't right. I've done my best to stay optimistic, but I knew from the first time I looked down that I had some issues.

Keep us posted on your recovery.


edit: another reason why I knew it was jacked up was because the indentations/folds.. Not because it looked puffy or like he didn't take enough. The guys worried about the PS not taking enough typically work out fine, its these folds/dents that don't seem to work their way out all that well. Once they take too much you're in a whole nother world of trouble..When I lift my arms and feel around, I can feel med-big dents craters around in there. Ever where there isn't fat, it's pretty much solid muscle (when arms up) you feel it swoop in..This isn't gonna just fix itself, and that's the tough pill to swallow.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 03, 2012, 04:47:49 PM
Good point about the price.  Please please please do your best to stay positive and not dwell on it, easier said that done.  I'm hoping and praying that your body will fill itself out.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 03, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
Good point about the price.  Please please please do your best to stay positive and not dwell on it, easier said that done.  I'm hoping and praying that your body will fill itself out.


Yea, I am pretty good. 98% of my life is consumed with my shirt on, so it is what it is in that regard. The only time I get pretty upset is going in/out of the shower. I try to be positive hoping it looks better that night when I go to get in/out of the shower, but so far no dice.

All I care about right now is training and getting into shape.

What a bad National Championship Game last night, huh?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 03, 2012, 05:43:31 PM
this is only my two cents.....Your probably going to spend about $125 bucks to get an evaluation from another doc. From that,the new doc can confirm your view, or not confirm your view that it was not done properly. If the second doc thinks you do need revisions - he can offer food for thought such as how he would revise you (what kind of lipo and where), and what he would charge....... Then armed with this expert information, you could go back to your doc and have a more "backed up" voice for the revision (if that's what the second or third doc say). Having a second or third opinion from another doc would might also help with the negotiations for lipo with your first guy. I worry that there is no way your getting in and out of a second procedure (even just lipo) for a grand.  You don't have to bad mouth your doc to the second doc, simply bring photos and express your concerns in a calm manner, and ask for what he thinks and what if anything he would do to make you look the way you wish.

So $125 bucks is all I am talking now. From posts I have seen here from Docs, they are used to seeing unhappy patients from other docs work.




Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 03, 2012, 06:17:47 PM
Yes man.  That game really was zero fun to watch.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 03, 2012, 08:10:24 PM
this is only my two cents.....Your probably going to spend about $125 bucks to get an evaluation from another doc. From that,the new doc can confirm your view, or not confirm your view that it was not done properly. If the second doc thinks you do need revisions - he can offer food for thought such as how he would revise you (what kind of lipo and where), and what he would charge....... Then armed with this expert information, you could go back to your doc and have a more "backed up" voice for the revision (if that's what the second or third doc say). Having a second or third opinion from another doc would might also help with the negotiations for lipo with your first guy. I worry that there is no way your getting in and out of a second procedure (even just lipo) for a grand.  You don't have to bad mouth your doc to the second doc, simply bring photos and express your concerns in a calm manner, and ask for what he thinks and what if anything he would do to make you look the way you wish.

So $125 bucks is all I am talking now. From posts I have seen here from Docs, they are used to seeing unhappy patients from other docs work.







Yea, that definitely sounds like solid advice. I will definitely do that here in a couple months if things don't change.. Appreciate it.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 03, 2012, 08:35:56 PM
Crossit,

Did not mean to offend with advice. I am concerned for your well being. We all know what it means to deal with Gyno and want the t-shirt and beach results.

As for me - an interesting event this evening. I am hypothesizing here... but I started feel sick at work around noon. By the time I got home, I was having chills and nausea and my left side (hemotoma)chest hurt. I decided a hot shower would be a good idea for chills and to check out my chest.

As I was told the dark red/purple hemotoma has drifted downwards and now is hitting my belly and hips. I believe my kidney, liver, GI system or whatever.... is starting to getting hit with the old blood and fluids - and is working overtime to filter and process it. Hence the drop in body temp. Also my swelling on my left side is now 40% less and is tightening up and so hurts more now than in the last few days. Interesting if I am right.

 
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 03, 2012, 08:52:44 PM
Crossit,

Did not mean to offend with advice. I am concerned for your well being. We all know what it means to deal with Gyno and want the t-shirt and beach results.

As for me - an interesting event this evening. I am hypothesizing here... but I started feel sick at work around noon. By the time I got home, I was having chills and nausea and my left side (hemotoma)chest hurt. I decided a hot shower would be a good idea for chills and to check out my chest.

As I was told the dark red/purple hemotoma has drifted downwards and now is hitting my belly and hips. I believe my kidney, liver, GI system or whatever.... is starting to getting hit with the old blood and fluids - and is working overtime to filter and process it. Hence the drop in body temp. Also my swelling on my left side is now 40% less and is tightening up and so hurts more now than in the last few days. Interesting if I am right.

 

No way man, no offense taken! It was solid advice! :)


Hmmm that is strange.. But wouldn't your temp go up if you had a fever??
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: gyno.no28 on April 04, 2012, 12:17:03 AM
oh mannnn - im freakin out for the GA and mine is in the morn... ill let you know exactly how goes ... ahhhh
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 04, 2012, 06:18:12 AM
After the chills, came the sweating. A mild temp of 100.  Whether it is all related or I just caught a virus, don't know. I do know the swelling is going down, and the hemotoma is drifting/spreading downwards like they said it would, so I am happy with moving in the right direction.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 04, 2012, 06:27:45 AM
oh mannnn - im freakin out for the GA and mine is in the morn... ill let you know exactly how goes ... ahhhh

Good luck with Dr. Lista. Let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 04, 2012, 10:12:33 AM
oh mannnn - im freakin out for the GA and mine is in the morn... ill let you know exactly how goes ... ahhhh

I'd do anything to be back in your shoes with a clean slate!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 05, 2012, 09:27:45 AM
Any update on the travels of your hematoma?

Just wanted to update my experience last night.  Today is 2 weeks post-op.  So last night, I succumbed to the urges and had sex with my girlfriend.  Tell ya what, taking my shirt off was akin to that moment when you're about to walk into the operating room; have to just take a deep breath and go.  I closed the windows as tightly as possible to keep out as much light as I could, but knowing that pupils dilate still made me worry.  I'm happy with my healing so far I guess, but my nips still look pretty beat up - definitely NOT healed enough to have sex in the daylight or walk around without a shirt.   So anyway, we begin, and tell ya what, it was not enjoyable;  I mean, it was, but it wasn't.  I was so focused on hiding my cuts (by manipulating lights and body position) and also avoiding friction in the chest area, cause it defintely still hurts - the last thing I wanted to was to tear open the incisions!  Luckily, I came away unscathed.  The best part, was after we were finished, she fell asleep - with her hand on my chest!- not breasts.  I was then able to sneak out of bed and go examine my wounds and throw on a shirt.  Was a big step in my healing.

Any updates from anyone else?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 05, 2012, 11:34:38 AM
Showtime620,

Slow and steady progress on my hemotoma and healing. It is going in the right direction as far as decrease in swelling, Mainly on front going down, side are still way too swollen. The discoloration which while decreasing in color is spreading wider. But at 9 days I am being patient since I do see tiny progress every day. My neck made a nice jump in decrease in swelling in last two days, I am wrapping it tighter at night and that seems to help.

Late edit - I might add I am finding I like wearing the compression vest - I look better under dress shirts and I suppose it provides a secure feeling. Weird, I know most hate their vests.  

Good and bad about the sex huh? I told my wife "nothing going on for a month at least" she was like "a month ?! :o"  I was going to remind her we been married long enough to have hit longer spells (honey remember your last 2 months of pregnancy and 2 months afterwards?), but I did not want to say this is my time for "don't touch me!". I am thinking at a month time frame, I might be wearing a tight black wife beater  8) during the activities until I get to two months of healing.  
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 05, 2012, 08:23:49 PM
lol funny sex story. Sucks she doesn't know, that would make it tough for sure.


Jesus, I am as sore as I have ever been in my life. Back + Bis monday and Chest + tris yesterday. Chest was weeeeeeaaaaaaak as hell, but no pain whatsoever when I trained. No real major changes, just being patient and doing what I can to get in shape.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on April 06, 2012, 02:14:49 AM
hey dudes i just checked out this post first of all just wanted to say congrats to all of you guys!i had my surgery about a month ago aswell and dealing with similar symptoms to you guys as far as healing goes. When did you guys start going hard at the gym? i started doing light weights and cardio after 3 weeks but its been a month now and i havent done chest yet. My nurse said not to do weights for 6 weeks but i wanna start up hard again asap.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 06, 2012, 10:46:26 AM
hey dudes i just checked out this post first of all just wanted to say congrats to all of you guys!i had my surgery about a month ago aswell and dealing with similar symptoms to you guys as far as healing goes. When did you guys start going hard at the gym? i started doing light weights and cardio after 3 weeks but its been a month now and i havent done chest yet. My nurse said not to do weights for 6 weeks but i wanna start up hard again asap.

It seems to vary. My doc actually gave me the go ahead at 2 weeks, but I wasn't feeling up to it till this last Monday (4/2/12) and my surgery was on 3/8/12. Essentially it was the start of my 4th week post op. I only got excision, and it seems excision only is a bit quicker in healing? I could be wrong. I banged out a hard chest workout on Wed and it felt just fine. Only thing that sucked was my strength and muscle endurance but that is expected. --Oh, and I got some of the worse DOMs of my life. I am still unbelievably sore from MONDAY when I did back+bi's.. I didn't hold back on either workout so far, figured I'd dive right in and get that soreness outta the way lol

Shoulders today!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on April 06, 2012, 12:29:22 PM
Right on! i had lipo and excision so i think im gonna hold off doing chest for another 2 weeks but its seems to be fine when i work out all the other body parts. I just dont wanna swell up more cause im still a little swollen.  A little off topic but how was your experience with your surgeons? mine was the most arrogant person ive ever met i havent even seen him yet post op but im suppose to in 2 months. 
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 06, 2012, 12:52:03 PM
Right on! i had lipo and excision so i think im gonna hold off doing chest for another 2 weeks but its seems to be fine when i work out all the other body parts. I just dont wanna swell up more cause im still a little swollen.  A little off topic but how was your experience with your surgeons? mine was the most arrogant person ive ever met i havent even seen him yet post op but im suppose to in 2 months. 

Haha just read through this thread. Mine is arrogant as well, in fact I am not even happy with my results at all, probably going in for a revision in a few months.

You haven't been seen ONCE post op? That's unheard of bro..
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 06, 2012, 01:52:28 PM
Hey Element.  My doc, Doctor Dr. Lo, in Philly, said that I can start lifting other body parts at 3 weeks, so next Thursday or Friday-ish for me.  Sounds like I can lift light chest after a month and ramp it up after 6 weeks, but he stressed to 'listen to your body', and not to push too hard if your body is saying no.  I'm anxious to get lifting, too, but after the whole process, I don't want to ruin my recovery because I became impatient to lift too soon.

You didn't see your arrogant doc once?  That's odd, man.  I'd try to make it a point to get in there.  The money that you pay, should not only cover the surgery, but also his 'expertise' afterwards during recovery.  I've seen mine twice since the operation, which was two weeks ago.  So far, I'm pleased with him, my nips still look beat up, but it's only been 15 days, so I'm not too worried - yet! Just trying to let my body heal.  Lo himself, has been great.  Certainly confident, but not arrogant.  He's encouraged me to ask questions all throughout this process and he emails back promptly.  I was telling Crossfit before that I went to go see that guy in white plains, new york and booked the surgery, but then I ended up cancelling it because he seemed toooo cocky/arrogant; it was like a gyne excision factory where he seemed to mostly only care about getting bodies in the room, not actual patient care, if that makes any sense.

If you don't feel like reading through all of this thread to find out Crossfit's true feelings for his doctor, I will sum it up - Crossfit plans to make his plastic surgeon the Godfather of his next child... 
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on April 06, 2012, 03:50:04 PM
ya Ive seen his nurses a bunch of times and there extremely nice and caring. Honestly after my consultation with this doctor before my op i was like darn this guy hes a total not a nice person but after reading reviews on him and finding out that hes one of the best in my area i decided to follow through. Im pretty happy with my results so far but there's a few things that i don't like wich could just be swelling so im not gonna judge yet. Also im from canada so my excision was covered by manitoba health but i still had to pay for lipo wich was like 2400 bucks so i better be satisfied in the end. I hope you guys are all satisfied in the end aswell. They say to give it at least 6 months so just gotta play the waiting game i guess!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on April 06, 2012, 03:53:48 PM
lol they took off my swearing on my post!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 06, 2012, 04:02:41 PM
Element.

I have seen mine 3 times in 10 days.... and will see him next Friday again (4th time in 2.5 weeks) These were at his request. Probably, another in 2 weeks after that till I am looking good. I got issues right now , so that may factor into it, but he certainly likes to followup regularly even if only for 5 mins each visit (his nurse is more like 10 mins)
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on April 06, 2012, 04:06:50 PM
thats awesome man! Not the fact that your having complications lol but that your surgeon actually cares! i wish my surgeon actually gave a sh*t about how im healing but clearly he doesn't
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on April 09, 2012, 12:04:06 AM
how are you guys's nipples looking so far? im 5 weeks post op now and they still look puffy but im hoping thats just from the swelling and scar tissue.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 09, 2012, 07:54:19 AM
I'm 2.5 weeks post-op; Thursday will be the three week mark, feels like it was a lifetime ago.  Left nip looks good, slight crease under the teat. Right nip looks shitty; the incision still looks unleaded and the crease on the right nip is drastic.  Hoping that once the stitches dissolve that things will flatten out.   We shall see.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 10, 2012, 09:04:28 AM
*unleaded was supposed to be unhealed**      How is everybody progressing?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 10, 2012, 03:40:06 PM
I continue to see tiny progress each morning before shower, but still look worse than preop. But hopefully I keep on this reduction in swelling thing will continue to shrink and pull up and in.  Some hard areas in my left side (were hemotoma occured), worried this is scar tissue forming , but it is likely just still last of fluid and swelling. I have a crease on my right side just below nipple.

I do feel now I have some energy back. Got winded and tired easily at up until this last weekend when I went for a long walk including a steep hill and felt fine. Once I hit 4 weeks weeks I am hopeful I can get back to the treadmill and some light yoga.  Get stretched and heart rate going again. Then  hit the weights at 5-6 weeks.

Followup with Doctor this Friday. I am sure he will see progress in the last 7 days and tell me to keep the faith in his work.

Oh and I have to fly this coming weekend. Want to switch to compression t shirt (and not vest) for the few hours I travel and go through security.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 10, 2012, 04:00:54 PM
Good thinking with the swtich!  That would be a tough story to explain to security if questioned about the vest!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 10, 2012, 07:18:55 PM
whats up fellas!?

Sounds like everyone is cruising along. I gave up on analyzing daily, I have been training hard in the gym and dieting; things are coming around. My left nip (the worse of the two) still has a crease along the mid/bottom, but its honestly getting better. Actually I don't know if its getting all that much better or my eyes are adjusting lol.. I think training is going to help big time as well. My right nip is essentially crease-less. It basically is just sucked down tight along the incision and the beef of my nip appears to be semi puffy, but it wasn't like this early on so I think its just scar tissue/swelling. It's hard to believe anything is still swollen after 5 weeks, but obviously its very likely. When I flex, it basically looks like crap unless I am doing something like a double bi flex (as I flex my chest), then you can't tell. But if I am just standing straight, hand on hips and flex the nips crease/fold right over and look definitely indented compared to my upper chest. All that I can deal with, as long as the creases go and that 'sucked down look' under my right nip goes away, i'll be happy. Just to be able to walk around at the beach/river/pool without feeling like I have to pinch a nip and flex would be perrrrrfect.

Tell you what, I didn't realize how fat I let myself get. It's way more noticeable without the tata's, even with a shirt on lol. Once I get this winter coat off, I am gonna do my damnest to keep it off. Year round, even if my diet gets a little whacky in the winter, I need to train and do cardio at LEASTY 3 days a week.

I have been wearing my plain cotton t's all around, got a few compliments (they thought I lost weight), it does look like I am slimmer now with a smooth transition from my chest to belly. My chest is def not flat, but it looks formed with muscle, like pecs, like its supposed to look lol.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 11, 2012, 08:58:27 AM
Nice, man!  Sounds like you are cruising along, too!   By summer time, I think you'll be ready!   Glad you're training hard.  Tell me again, what were your doc's instructions about lifting chest and other body parts, and the time frames in which you could start back up.  I'm sure the hands on hips flex nip fold will fix itself in the coming months - you keep saying things like: 'it should be healed by now', remember, you had surgery! Granted not open heart surgery or anything like that, but still invasive enough to cause your body a few months of changes.  Patience is a virtue!     How is the contouring looking when standing straight and unflexed?  Are those 'knots' still a problem or are they beginning to smooth out as you exercise???
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 11, 2012, 11:28:12 AM

I have been wearing my plain cotton t's all around, got a few compliments (they thought I lost weight), it does look like I am slimmer now with a smooth transition from my chest to belly. My chest is def not flat, but it looks formed with muscle, like pecs, like its supposed to look lol.

I know you still got issues with your results,  butit sounds like some tiny improvments have still been happening..and a ways to go for the complete "no shirt" desired look......but for now, from that last comment, you got the whole t-shirt results thing nailed. One step at a time guy, I am hopeful for more results as you heal and work out.

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 11, 2012, 09:04:41 PM
Nice, man!  Sounds like you are cruising along, too!   By summer time, I think you'll be ready!   Glad you're training hard.  Tell me again, what were your doc's instructions about lifting chest and other body parts, and the time frames in which you could start back up.  I'm sure the hands on hips flex nip fold will fix itself in the coming months - you keep saying things like: 'it should be healed by now', remember, you had surgery! Granted not open heart surgery or anything like that, but still invasive enough to cause your body a few months of changes.  Patience is a virtue!     How is the contouring looking when standing straight and unflexed?  Are those 'knots' still a problem or are they beginning to smooth out as you exercise???

dude he told me go 'balls out' at 3 weeks.

The contour is iffy, nothing too pretty but not hideous. Those knots are still there and I plan on having him lipo the top portion of both pecs in a couple months.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Hidden4lyfe on April 14, 2012, 02:17:07 AM
Ok I've read through this whole thread and wonder if Lo is a good choice since you guys seem mixed with him. I am in pretty good shape at 6'0 175 pound and don't have much fat in me but definitely have gyn. Would surgery by him be a good idea or should I head elsewhere?

EDIT: Also how did you guys pay for it? Was it an all out payment or could you use a thing like credit care or another surgery plan?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on April 14, 2012, 04:52:25 PM
well boys going on 6 weeks post op and seems like things are only looking worse, nipples are back to being puffy like pre op and still really swollen im really starting to get impatient.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 15, 2012, 01:39:01 PM
well boys going on 6 weeks post op and seems like things are only looking worse, nipples are back to being puffy like pre op and still really swollen im really starting to get impatient.

I am way behind on my healing as well at 2.5 weeks. My doc as well as others are saying months to get the results I should be happy with. Every body heals differently, swells differently, etc. Since this is coming from several sources, I am having faith. You should too.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 15, 2012, 01:43:29 PM
Ok I've read through this whole thread and wonder if Lo is a good choice since you guys seem mixed with him. I am in pretty good shape at 6'0 175 pound and don't have much fat in me but definitely have gyn. Would surgery by him be a good idea or should I head elsewhere?

EDIT: Also how did you guys pay for it? Was it an all out payment or could you use a thing like credit care or another surgery plan?

I did not use Lo. I paid for mine on my credit card/cash. They did offer financing.

How bad of gynco do you have?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on April 15, 2012, 01:50:53 PM
hey great lakes that's exactly what i needed to hear! i just wish i wasn't so impatient lol but i showed my parents  they think it looks great! so im probably over reacting but lets give it a couple more months and see what happens!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 16, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
Hey man.  I had my surgery done by Lo in Philly.  This thursday will be one month post-op, just got back from the gym - first time lifting since, lifted arms.  Going to ease myself back into it.     So far, man, I am quite pleased.  I still have some concavity when I flex, but I expect that to fill in; however, the concavity might look a BIT more defined since I still have a bit of swelling around the perimeter of the pecs.    My left nipple scar is healed, still have a slight creases under the actual 'teat' though, but I think that should release when the stitches start to dissolve.  The scar on the right nipple can still be seen easily and the crease is more profound than the left, but at this point I am not worried.  He assured me that I'd shirtless on the beach by the end of june which I was originally skeptical of, however, everything he said so far has been spot on, so I'm feeling confident.   I'm glad I went with Lo, as I felt that he knew what he was doing and actually CARED about my concerns.    At 6'0, 175lbs, I'm sure you're a straightforward case of gyne, like I was so I would personally recommend him, but my recommendation only goes so far; make sure you pick the surgeon whom you feel most comfortable with.   However, I do recommend to go it! Just jump in head first and get it done!  Summer is almost here!!!!

Do you have surgery scheduled yet?     I put mine on credit cards, I think Dr. Lo accepts that CareCredit financing plan thing.   
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Hidden4lyfe on April 16, 2012, 05:14:34 PM
Ok I've read through this whole thread and wonder if Lo is a good choice since you guys seem mixed with him. I am in pretty good shape at 6'0 175 pound and don't have much fat in me but definitely have gyn. Would surgery by him be a good idea or should I head elsewhere?

EDIT: Also how did you guys pay for it? Was it an all out payment or could you use a thing like credit care or another surgery plan?

I did not use Lo. I paid for mine on my credit card/cash. They did offer financing.

How bad of gynco do you have?

For my height and weight I'll say slightly worse than average. I think because I have pretty big pecs as well it makes it worse. Its definitely noticeable in tight shirts.

Hey man.  I had my surgery done by Lo in Philly.  This thursday will be one month post-op, just got back from the gym - first time lifting since, lifted arms.  Going to ease myself back into it.     So far, man, I am quite pleased.  I still have some concavity when I flex, but I expect that to fill in; however, the concavity might look a BIT more defined since I still have a bit of swelling around the perimeter of the pecs.    My left nipple scar is healed, still have a slight creases under the actual 'teat' though, but I think that should release when the stitches start to dissolve.  The scar on the right nipple can still be seen easily and the crease is more profound than the left, but at this point I am not worried.  He assured me that I'd shirtless on the beach by the end of june which I was originally skeptical of, however, everything he said so far has been spot on, so I'm feeling confident.   I'm glad I went with Lo, as I felt that he knew what he was doing and actually CARED about my concerns.    At 6'0, 175lbs, I'm sure you're a straightforward case of gyne, like I was so I would personally recommend him, but my recommendation only goes so far; make sure you pick the surgeon whom you feel most comfortable with.   However, I do recommend to go it! Just jump in head first and get it done!  Summer is almost here!!!!

Do you have surgery scheduled yet?     I put mine on credit cards, I think Dr. Lo accepts that CareCredit financing plan thing.   

Thanks. And honestly I'll probably not going to get surgery until during the fall since I have to save up money but I want to plan in advance. I think I want to partially pay cash and partially do financing if possible.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 16, 2012, 05:25:23 PM
Cool.  Good way to go about it.  By that time I should be pretty much healed So you'll be able to see Lot's product first hand.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 19, 2012, 11:37:41 AM
Good morning, boys!!!!  Today is ONE MONTH post-op!!!  Can't believe how quickly time has gone!!!!  So this week, I've hit the dieting HARD - I'm even keeping a log and tracking calories, believe it or not!  I lifted arms on Monday, did legs yesterday, and TODAY - I will be lifting chest!!  I'm feeling anxious, but excited nontheless and wanted to share!!  If my chest pops open, you'll see me promptly in the 'Ask a Doctor' section.     Will update after I get back to the desk.

How's everybody doing?  Haven't seen any updates from you guys, everyone doing ok?!?!?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 19, 2012, 12:33:58 PM
You working out is great !

I was good on diet for first two weeks. Slipped a little this last week. I am three weeks post op. Another visit with PS on friday, lets see if he sticks/drains me again like last Friday. I am going to ask him about working out again. Next Tuesday would be 4 weeks and thats usually when its okay - but then again, my swelling is more than most.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 19, 2012, 03:37:01 PM
Back!!!   Did my chest workout.  Lifted less weight than my Grandmother can lift, but I didn't want to push it too hard; just tried to focus on form and control.

I feel good!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 20, 2012, 11:56:58 AM
Attention to Crossfit! Where ya been, man?!?!?!  I'm pretty close to contacting the gynexpert to get your name and contact info you make sure you didn't off yourself!!!  You alright? Any updates for us?!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: nogojoe on April 20, 2012, 07:51:13 PM
Hey Showtime,

Did you post pre- and/or post-op pics here anywhere? You seem so satisfied with your results, I can't help but be curious.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 21, 2012, 08:02:13 PM
Hey man.  Yea, happy So far!  Haven't posted any pics, as I don't know how!  I'm more than happy to email you some if you're interested.  PM your email address.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 25, 2012, 04:23:38 PM
whats up fellas..No real updates. Chest looks like shit. Just training and waiting till May 14th when I go back for a check up. I try to avoid this place to help myself keep my mind off the chest.

No doubt, I was happier with my chest pre-op.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on April 25, 2012, 09:04:47 PM
Crossfit,

I hope the doctor works with you on revision lipo to get the look you want.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: crossfit99 on April 25, 2012, 09:14:53 PM
Crossfit,

I hope the doctor works with you on revision lipo to get the look you want.

appreciate it
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on April 30, 2012, 02:19:22 PM
Had a follow up with Dr. Lo today, Thursday will be 6 weeks post-op!  Feels like forever ago!   He seems quite excited with my current results, and the best part of the appointment! - He said that I am free to walk around in the sun shirtless!  I still don't feel comfortable enough to do that due to the creases, but getting that blessing is great step in the right direction!

Hope everybody is enjoying their healing!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on May 09, 2012, 12:25:20 PM
hey guys! figured id do an update since its been a while. Two months post op now and i can say my chest looks noticeably better but still not satisfied. My nips are still puffy and they still stick out a little i also started noticing some hard stuff behind my nipples probably scar tissue? i guess it could be left over gland aswell. I have a follow op in a month and hopefully ill get to actually see my surgeon for the first time. If my nipples are still puffy im gonna discuss revision with him wich i doubt his even gonna consider but ill try. How is everyone else doing any updates?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on May 09, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
element,  so no reduction in nip puff over the last few weeks - or just a little?

It is 6 weeks for me. I feel I am now better than preop - but maybe only 30% better over all.  I could live with left side now if it never got flatter - but the right side is still lousy, swollen, with some under and side moob remaining. In touching some of the areas it feels like some loose (air filled) pockets rather than heavy fat or tissue so indeed I may be healing up and takes a while at my age for skin to shrink up.

 I am holding faith for another six weeks at least (12 total) to see continued reduction in sizes and flattening.   I have a followup appointment in a few days and will chat with nurse and doctor then. Wearing compression shirts and massaging nightly. Also back to full workouts.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: fnnewguy on May 09, 2012, 02:34:37 PM
lakes, can u post photos?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on May 09, 2012, 04:26:09 PM
nipple only looks a little bit smaller than preop. Its definitely better then pre op but i was hoping for better. maybe my expectations are too high cause im into bodybuilding and stuff and wanna get really ripped for summer. When its cold and my nipples shrink im pretty much 100 percent happy with the result i just wish it would stay like that. Theres a possibility it could be swelling but im starting to doubt that. It looks the worst when i get out of a bath then they really puff out like pre op. I think there puffy cause he left a tiny bit too much of gland but i aint no doctor so i dont know i guess its better then having too much taken out and having craters. It could live with it the way it is but i believe that for the money we pay to get this done we should be 100% satisfied.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on May 09, 2012, 04:42:49 PM
heres some pics these were taken last week
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: fnnewguy on May 09, 2012, 04:43:03 PM
pics element?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on May 09, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
another pic not soo puffy
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on May 09, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
element, the last photo you look pretty normal on the puffiness and overall normal to me. If I saw you at the beach would not think a thing out of ordinary.

I can see what your saying in the first photo however.
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Post by: element_01 on May 09, 2012, 11:43:57 PM
cool! good too know im not over analyzing things. For now I still gotta play the waiting game but im crossing my fingers that my nipples are puffy due to swelling wich is a strong possibility. Ill find out more when i go for my follow up. It seems my left side puffs out more then my right and i remember my nurse saying that my left side was more swollen a couple days after the surgery. Oh well crossing my fingers things get better!
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Post by: Showtime620 on May 10, 2012, 04:01:03 PM
Hey Element! Good to hear from you!  Read your update.  I agree with Greatlakes' response - your chest looks normal - granted, puny and not muscular - but normal nonetheless.  :-)   Just teasin.  From those pics, man, I think it looks pretty decent; definitely wouldn't bat an eye if I saw you on the beach.  Today, I am 7 weeks post-op (one week after you, one week before greatlakes)   Like you, my nips look good when they're cold or wet but look 'soft' when relaxed.  I think that we've dealt with goofy titties for so long that we never stopped to think about 'normal' nipples which is what I think we now have!  I understand that we want to be 100% satisfied and appear 'perfect', but it's more important for our expectations must be REALISTIC.  Like you, I enjoy lifting weights, and I want to have a big, massive, defined chest - but that comes through hardwork and dedication. We can't have glands removed and expect to have that chest.  The hard part starts now - lifting hard, doing cardio, watching our diet, etc.  Without the glands, we have the ability to earn that chest without having a breast sitting on top of it!  Let's go do it!  I've been lifting hard for a month and regaining full range of motion.  I, too, am hoping to drop some serious bodyfat by the middle of the summer.

As for having 'too much gland'.  EVERYONE has a gland, even those guys with the beautiful chests! If you doc would've taken our all of it, the crater would've looked awful.  Look at some horror stories online and this forum.  Most would be BLESSED to have your chest!!!!

The hard stuff behind and around the nipple, that feel like beans, are scar tissue.  That will dissipate in a few weeks/couple months.  Don't worry about it!!!

Your chest looks great so don't be too harsh of a critic.   Now get your ass to the gym!!!!!   :-)
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on May 10, 2012, 04:49:25 PM
showtime and greatlakes you guys got any pics?
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Post by: fnnewguy on May 10, 2012, 05:13:05 PM
im only a week post op and don't see much of a difference besides right when i took the dressings off...I really hope its just swelling and stuff. Element its hard to tell from the pic but are ur nips still a bit puffy? How have they evolved since surgery, what was ur recovery like?
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Post by: Showtime620 on May 10, 2012, 05:40:29 PM
Element, I only have them on my phone, message me your email address and I'll forward to ya.
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Post by: Showtime620 on May 10, 2012, 05:41:33 PM
Fnn, that sounds normal to be swelling in the days right after your surgery.   Way too soon to start worrying! Happy healing!
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Post by: element_01 on May 10, 2012, 10:30:15 PM
hey showtime email is [email protected], fnn ya there still a little puffy but it could be swelling maybe not though either way i think i could live with it. Like showtime said i think we expect our chest to look like a perfect chest and that's rarely gonna be the case. Ya my nips still stick out a little bit out of my shirt and it doesn't look perfect but i finally have a nice contour and it looks alot more like pecs. As far as recovery goes its an emotional rollercoaster some days your gonna go crazy cause it looks like absolute shit and other days your like wow it looks great! Just be patient bro some say even 2 months is too early too judge.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on May 10, 2012, 10:34:01 PM
all im focusing on now is getting lean for the summer im gonna be going on a strict diet and working with a personal trainer starting next week. Gotta saygoodbye to fastfood and all that junk for the next little while!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on May 11, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
showtime got your pics i think you look great man! the results look awesome doesn't even look like you had surgery looks like you always naturally had a flat chest. You must be pretty stoked about the result so far!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on May 13, 2012, 12:58:37 AM
Hey pal.  Glad you like the pics and results so far!  I am pretty excited actually.   There's still some filling out that I'd like to see and fat that I'd like to lose, but at this point I'm happy with the progress. (I'll be at two months this coming Thursday) 

Currently lifting heavy and dieting hard, hopefully I'll look respectable come the summer time!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Hi_Top_Guy on May 15, 2012, 05:16:25 PM
I've read through this entire thread and I just wanted to say how awesome you guys are especially Showtime620, greatlakes, and the OP Crossfit99. You guys are incredibly brave for sharing your stories and I found it very informative and helpful reading through this thread. Please continue to share your experiences.

Crossfit99, how did the doctor visit go yesterday (May 19)? I saw the other thread with your pics, too, and I'm glad you posted about the doctor info and Plastic Surgeon vs. Board Certified Plastic Surgeon. I also saw the other pics that you posted when you were in peak form, and I just got to tell you that your body was dynamite! You've got my fantasy body. How have things progressed since your last update?

Element_01, I think your results are great, too.

Fnnewguy, keep us updated on the progress.   
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on May 15, 2012, 05:43:58 PM
Hey Mister hi top guy!  Welcome to the thread!   Glad you were able to read through everything and found it informative!   To me personally, this website and this thread, specifically, have both been blessings to me. Having these friends to talk to during my initial recovery was amazing, as I didn't, and still haven't, told anybody about my surgery. (I will be at two months post-op this Thursday )    Please feel free to ask any of us questions as we are all more than happy to help!  Do you plan to have surgery soon?

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Hi_Top_Guy on May 15, 2012, 06:01:01 PM
Wow, Showtime, you haven't told anyone yet? That's cool, though. Nobody really needs to know anyway.

I'm going to be making an appointment this week for a consult. I was going to do it in March but I had to have dental work done, so now that that's taken care of, I can start with this.

I'll probably start my own thread once I get the ball rolling  ;D

I do hope Crossfit99 is alright.


Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on May 15, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Good stuff, man! I'm sure it'll work out well for you!   How severe is your gyne?  And how much do you use the pool or beach in the summer?  Reason I ask is because, if it's not TOO bad, I'd personally wait until the fall if you can handle it for one more summer. The recovery will take a little time and you won't be allowed in the sun for at least 6 weeks, usually a bit longer.

Nope! Haven't told anyone.  My rationale is that I dealt with this problem since grade school myself, I spent alot of effort trying to hide it (which I did successfully ), I got the surgery myself, I spent four days secluded in my house healing, and spent the last 8 weeks dieting and exercising hard by myself!  No need to include anybody now!  I go to the beach with my family in June and I CAN'T WAIT!  Taking my shirt off for the first time is going to be a wonderful moment!

I really hope crossfit is alright, too. He was my first buddy on this site and it breaks my heart to hear that he isn't happy with his results. However, he is determined, dedicated, and smart and is already setting his sites on a revision.   I think he's gonna turn out beautifully!

I'm excited to read about your upcoming experience and your journey along the way!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: fnnewguy on May 15, 2012, 06:53:30 PM
Yo guys. I doin alright. Not happy with the results right now but I'm only two weeks post op and can feel myself healing. Patience is the key I suppose. Have a crease through each nipple a lot of doctors say that's normal but I have heard a few ppl not have it go away...so I guess it's just the waiting game now. I'll post pics this weekend probably. Surgery is not the end folks, it's the beginning of the end. It's just kinda rough chz I want normal nipples now! Ha
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Hi_Top_Guy on May 16, 2012, 04:03:52 PM
Good stuff, man! I'm sure it'll work out well for you!   How severe is your gyne?  And how much do you use the pool or beach in the summer?  Reason I ask is because, if it's not TOO bad, I'd personally wait until the fall if you can handle it for one more summer. The recovery will take a little time and you won't be allowed in the sun for at least 6 weeks, usually a bit longer.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, Showtime. My gyne is moderate, but it's definitely noticeable, and I do feel self-conscious taking my shirt off. And now that I'm older, there's definitely more jiggle going on than before  :o

Staying out of the sun or swimming probably won't be a problem for me. I'm super excited to hear of your upcoming day at the beach, come June, so make sure you post it here.  :) And don't forget the sunscreen.

fnnewguy, can't wait to see the pics.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on May 16, 2012, 04:43:21 PM
@ Fnn - I had those creases, too.  The right is still there, but dissipating, albeit slowly.  The left one went away after about the 6th week.  What I've read, is that the incision stitches are under the skin and the 'squeezing' of the stitches essentially sucks the nipples in across the middle.  I've heard that the stitches can take 8-10 weeks to fully dissolve, so try not to worry until that point, at least!  I'm hoping that my right nip crease is fuully gone within another month.  (Tomorrow is 2 months post-op already! Can't believe it!)

@ Hi Top - that's how I felt, too.  I highly recommend you get it done; you'll receive a new lease on life.  Although this problem is miniscule in comparison to the problems of others, it's still a problem to us nonetheless!  You'll be glad that you did.

I can't wait for the week at the beach, either, man. I'll be updating for sure!   I'll be wearing the sunscreen in full force!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: fnnewguy on May 16, 2012, 05:03:47 PM
Thanks for the encouragement showtime. I guess I will just have to play the waiting game. Cant wait to just be normal!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on May 16, 2012, 05:20:50 PM
You'll be a real boy in no time!  :-)
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: fnnewguy on May 16, 2012, 05:29:58 PM
you got any pics of the creases?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on May 17, 2012, 10:59:37 AM
Two months post-op today!~
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Post by: greatlakes on May 17, 2012, 03:14:36 PM
Two months post-op today!~

Time flies when you are having fun healing... :D

Or maybe its like a car ride wth a 4 year old (in my head there is some child saying) ......are we there yet? No... are we there yet? No!  Are we there yet? NO!!

So showtime620, are YOU there yet?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on May 17, 2012, 05:09:38 PM
Almost, but not quite!!!  I'd still like to see the right nip crease disappear fully and I need to lose some lbs, but I'm getting there!!!!  Hopefully in another month I will have achieved my destination.  :-)
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Post by: greatlakes on May 17, 2012, 09:27:12 PM
12 weeks is a good marker in the road. Wondering how much improvement we will all see by then.
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Post by: Showtime620 on May 19, 2012, 12:08:48 AM
I have confidence in us!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on May 31, 2012, 03:30:39 PM
Hello gents~!  How's everybody doing!??!?!?!

I gotta be honest, I miss chatting on here with everybody!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on May 31, 2012, 05:34:03 PM
Feel like an old timer - even though I am 9 weeks now. I am still awaiting more healing. I feel like I have gotten about 50% of the results I wanted, but more improvements can happen over the next few months... or so I am told from the doctors and guys here.

Back to full scale workouts now. Did get a few nice compliments on my appearance from some people (including a rather "sultry" one from a female) who have not seen me since before surgery. Did not tell any of them about surgery, so I suppose some results are showing?

Miss some of the guys who left after a few weeks after surgery, wish they would check in. They must be happy with results I guess or felt they got all they were going to get and moved on.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on June 14, 2012, 10:22:48 PM
hey dudes! long overdue update finally saw my doctor today for the first time after my op! He noticed that my nipples were still puffing out abit but told me not to worry and that its probably just scar tissue. He also told me to massage and showed me a technique. All in all he said things were looking pretty decent. He said that with time everything should smoothen out and that if it doesnt i could come back at the 6 month to a year mark and he could take another look. So all in all my chest aint perfect right now but fck it! its much better then before and i aint letting it ruin my summer! Happy healing guys!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on June 16, 2012, 06:42:54 AM
He said that with time everything should smoothen out and that if it doesnt i could come back at the 6 month to a year mark and he could take another look.

More or less what mine said at 8 weeks. I seem him again around 16 weeks. I am around 11/12 weeks now. I have yet to achieve the reasonable results I wanted. I do look better (or less worse) so I am feeling better about my appearance but I not content or happy with results.  I am beginning to expect I may be looking at a revision at 6 months (in fall) which is when my doc said he would make a final decision. But we will see, I know there are folks who have continued to heal and get flatter up to several months after surgery, but I wonder if I can really get that much (like 30-40% better) improvement over the next 3  more months. Just keep working out and keep up the hope. I don't regret trying the surgery, or my doctor choice, just feel things have not gone well for a number of reasons.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on July 02, 2012, 11:37:45 AM
hey great lakes like you said just keep your head up and continue to workout and get it off your mind at least its better then before right?. Im now at 4 months post op and im pretty sure im gonna need revision on my left side. Theres definitely some remaining breast tissue in there wich is why its still puffy. My right side on the other hand is pretty much near perfect just a little bit of scar tissue but it looks almost perfect. Regardless i went to the beach this weekend and had my shirt off all day and felt pretty comfortable. It sucks that i didnt get the result i expected but i could of never went without my shirt last summer. Just gotta wait a couple more months and im gonna go back to my surgeon and discuss what can be done.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on July 03, 2012, 10:57:09 PM
Element01, Ditto - could have written what you did exactly - except it is my right side.

Workouts were going great till I blew out my back doing squats last week. On light workouts for another two weeks. Diet is so so these days need to focus on this more.

I have a followup in about two weeks with my doctor. At 8 weeks he was not happy with results either on my right. I am wondering how he will feel in the middle of July. He said he will make no final judgement on revisions until 6 months in September.

I am a bit worried the doctor and I might differ on final judgements and what if any deal he will offer to cleanup and revise. I have heard docs will waive or significantly reduce their fees for revisions, but this does not extend to the anesthesiologist.  I don't have much spare cash these days - having spent so much for the first procedure.

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on July 05, 2012, 12:02:44 AM
I just quit my diet after 2 months i couldn't handle the low carb intake anymore it was way too hard. But i did get really good results! Ill probably try again next month or something.Im honestly puzzled with my left side i still feel some tissue but the weird thing is the bottom of my nipple has a minor crater when i flex.Its hard to describe but i think thats why my nip is still  puffy almost like it has nothing to attach itself too and its just loose skin. When i feel the lower half of my nipple it feels really thin its weird. Like you im low on funds and i only paid for lipo, excision is fully covered out here in canada, hopefully revision is free or a reduced fee. Hopefully everything works out for us in the future! Who knows maybe in 2 or 3 months things will get better!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on July 05, 2012, 06:30:01 AM
Well as we both agree - it is nice to not look so bad anymore - just not looking good yet. Anything can happen over the next weeks and months of healing.


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Post by: Showtime620 on July 06, 2012, 08:50:49 AM
HEY BOYS!!!!    Sounds like everyone is doing alright!!!!!
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Post by: Hi_Top_Guy on July 06, 2012, 08:18:17 PM
Hi Showtime!

How have you been doing? I'm in week 4 of recovery.  :D
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Post by: Showtime620 on July 07, 2012, 07:44:44 PM
Doing alright, man!   Pretty happy with my results so far. Still waiting for some swelling behind the left nip, but getting there, I'm about 3.5 months out.   How is your chest shaping up after a month? Happy with your results to far??!?!
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Post by: Hi_Top_Guy on July 09, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
Yes, I'm really pleased with the results!  ;D

It's amazing that when I look down I don't see the twin peaks anymore, LOL. I'm still a little sore around the nipples and they're still somewhat numb.

Other than that, I'm doing fine. I finally started working out again last week but I'm going very gingerly and easing back into it.
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Post by: Showtime620 on July 10, 2012, 10:03:41 AM
Fantastic, man!  I'm 4 months post op in 12 days and I'M still a little sore in both nips.  Not painful sore, just tender(?) sore?  It doesn't hurt, just feels funny when pressed, but not bothersome or anything.  So, it'll be there for a while!

Glad you're back to lifting!  Def take it slow and steady.  Do not risk stretching your scars with too much weight or anything like that.  Just going through the motions at this point is fine.  As per my log book, I was lifting with maximum weight on 5/12/2012, surgery was 3/22/2012, so about 6 weeks.   You no longer have goofytitties!!  Use that as motivation to build the best body possible!!!!

In January, I was 229lbs.  The day of my surgery I was 216lbs - today, I'm 195lbs - and stronger than ever!!!  I challenge you to do the same, with me!   You've been blessed with the opportunity to give yourself a new image!!   Do it, baby!!!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Hi_Top_Guy on July 12, 2012, 08:44:38 PM
That's great, Showtime! You'll be ready for the beach in no time.

I'm definitely going in slowly as far as working out is concerned. Before surgery I was doing P90X for 5 days a week, after doing it for many months, and now I'm just doing the beginning version -- P90 -- to get back in the swing of things.

I definitely can tell a big difference though, especially doing jumping jacks. I don't feel my chest flopping up and down like before, which is great!  :D

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on July 13, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
4 month check up with plastic surgeon today. Last time he saw me was at two months at he was not compeltely happy (nor was I) with my right side.

This visit was unbelievably quick, and he seemed unconcerned/confident with his work. He said I had gone down since he saw me last, and should be looking better in a few more months. He said he will take photos at my six month followup and compare with me the change.

I had to tell him I was not happy with right side right. He seemed a bit (confident? puzzled? surprised?) at my statement, but said I should see more flattening in a few more months, as he made me flat during surgery. He said if am not pleased in the fall, he would be happy to take some more out for me. At which point I asked - "ok, what are we talking about with that?". He said for everything (surgery, anesthesia, room costs)... about 600 bucks. I felt better with this offer, and his willingness to revise if it did not look good to me (stand behind his work). The original surgery was $6700.

As I have posted, I do look better (or less worse) then before, and the doctor and his staff has treated me well and followed up regularly with me. With this offer to revise, if I want, at a small cost, I feel better about things and will wait out the next 2-3 months a little easier.

I will try to take some 4 month photos over the next week.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on July 16, 2012, 11:40:25 AM
Now that's a good update, Greatlakes!   I'm pleased to hear that he seemed unphased, and confident.  Not to mention his willingness to revise.  Looking forward to your photos!

I've got my 4 month post op follow in 15 minutes.  I'll be sure to update when I get back.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on July 16, 2012, 04:32:55 PM
Saw Dr. Lo earlier for my 4 month follow up.  He was VERY pleased; in fact, he said that I am in the top 5% of his results, which made me feel good.   I'd still like to flatten out a bit more on the left side, but I could be being nitpicky (new word - nippicky?  :-)   ).   He actually took my final post op pictures today and said that I no longer need to come in unless I have additional concerns.     I'm going to continue my strict dieting as well as continue to hit the gym hard.   Like I told Lo, one of the best parts of the surgery for me was the motivation that it started.  January 1st, 2012, I was 234lbs, with gyne.  The possibility of surgery kickstarted me into losing weight, had a consult with Lo in February and booked my surgery, which continued and ramped up my weightloss and heavy lifting.  March 22, 2012 - surgery day, I weighed 217lbs.    Today, 4 months later, I'm 193lbs - stronger than ever, and in the best shape of my life - and still have TONS of room for growth.   The surgery alone didn't 'fix' me; but rather, it helped me envision what I can be with determination and hard work - and I look damn forward to getting there.   

I appreciate everyone's care and concern over my last four months.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on July 18, 2012, 07:29:29 AM
That's awesome showtime! I wonder if being in his top 5% will earn you a place in his gallery of patients.... ;D

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on July 18, 2012, 11:22:56 AM
Ha.   I'll have to ask him!  Seeing the pre-op pictures in the file and then seeing the post-op pictures (on his camera) did actually seem quite impressive.   I think the weight loss and tan skin might have had something to do with it, though!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Hi_Top_Guy on July 20, 2012, 08:49:06 PM
That's GREAT news, Showtime!  :D

Can't wait to see some pictures. Keep pushing on!

And Tan skin? Did you finally go to the beach?
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on July 31, 2012, 05:55:58 PM
hows it going dudes? almost 5 months post op now and planning on making an appointment with my surgeon to discuss revision on my left side i have a slight crater and my nipple is still puffy. Right side is pretty much perfect. All in all its not all bad just gotta hope revision isnt too pricy or even better yet free! lol Any one else here get the crater thing? seems like alot of people get it.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Hi_Top_Guy on July 31, 2012, 08:37:01 PM
I'm doing good, element_01. I'm almost at the 2 month mark. I've been doing light workouts and just trying to get back to my physical peak before surgery, but other than that nothing big to report.

I haven't developed any craters, but my nipples are still erect, and I'm still numb around the nipples. I have noticed some bruising on the top part of my pec, too.

I go to see my doc on Thursday July 2 and see what he says.

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on August 29, 2012, 10:10:32 PM
Not sure if any of this small group is around on this post.

I am at 5 months now. Not much improvement from 4 months. I think I have achieved the most I am going to get from this surgery. I have gotten some results, feel more comfortable in most type of shirts, but my right is not balanced at all. With shirt off or tight t shirt you can see this clearly.

Recently my endocrinologist saw me for the first time and was pleased with the overall results and shape, but agreed with me that there is extra tissue remaining on my right.

I am 75% convinced I will take my doctors offer to do followup revision surgery. I see him in another month (6 month visit).  I only wish him to revise the right side.

The low cost of a revision is the driving factor here, and my age. I do not go though this again years from now - with the huge costs of a "new surgery" or "new doctor".

Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on August 30, 2012, 03:26:50 PM
Hey GL!   Yea, man, I still cehck this site regularly, hoping to hear everyone's updates and try to offer advice to others thinking about the surgery.   I can't believe it's been that long since our operations!!!   You sound positive, as if the revision will be quick, cheap, and give you the desired results.  I truly hope you go along with it and complete the job!!!  You've come a LONG way and you're almost at the finish line!    Have you still been working out and dieting hard????

Hope you are well!  Keep up the good work!

PS - Ever hear anything from Crossfit???   I'd LOVE to get an update from that guy; wish I would've gotten his name so that I could reach out to him.  I hope his issues have started to fix themselves.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on August 31, 2012, 04:55:56 PM
The cost I was told last month was like 10% the cost of the original surgery. I can handle that.

I like the doctor and his staff well enough, that i will stick with him (also the cost of going to new doctor would be impossible for me now). I am a bit bummed he kept telling me I was going to be "flat" because thats how he made me on the table. But I presented complications to him.

Ya I am so close getting what i want - like running 2.5 miles of a 3 mile race. One more push and I can cross the finish line.

I lost about 6 weeks of workouts due to a lower back blowout. But I am nearly back to full workouts again. My diet needs some improvement too many fun meals out this summer. But I know what needs to be done.....

Crossfit was looking buff last i saw a photo of him, hope he is well.
 
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Hi_Top_Guy on August 31, 2012, 07:19:49 PM
I still check every now and then, GreatLakes.

Time is flying by and you'll cross that finish line before you know it.

I also hope Crossfit is doing better. Wish he would update or let us know what has developed since his last post.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on September 21, 2012, 10:01:24 AM
Tomorrow is my 6 month anniversay of being titless!!!!  Hope everyone is doing well!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on October 12, 2012, 06:21:14 AM
Fantastic showtime. I have been off the board for a little while. I have tentatively scheduled my revision for the end of January.  I may change my mind, but probable will go back under.They say less than 30 mins to touch up the right side. I am enjoying the results I have gotten so far, I love my left side.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on October 15, 2012, 10:29:59 AM
Do it, man!   You've come this far already!!!   

Everyone's been off the board for a while! I miss chatting with everybody.   I'm excited for your second procedure! Glad to hear the left side is looking great!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: element_01 on October 21, 2012, 02:05:40 PM
Hey dudes! hows everyone doing? sorry its been so long ive just been busy with things these days and trying to focus one other things. 7 months post op now and i still want my left side revised im pretty sure there wont be any improvement at this point. I still haven't even made an appointment with my surgeon to discuss this, ive been putting it off cause i personally really despise the guy but i think its time to make that appointment and get it over with. Ill give more updates once i find out if hes willing to revise or not.
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: Showtime620 on October 22, 2012, 11:40:12 AM
No complaints here!

Look forward to your updates!
Title: Re: Finally booked the surgery!
Post by: greatlakes on October 23, 2012, 06:45:41 AM
element_01,


Sorry to hear you don't like the guy. However, unless you got a ton of cash sitting around - going to another doctor is difficult. Hopefully your guy will revise for a small fee. I would not wait to much longer to see him, definitely before a year is up.

I am "just ok" with my doc(love his nurse). I had considered briefly going elsewhere for my revision, but I simply don't have 6-7 grand anymore.  Besides I do respect my doctors willingness to stand behind his work and seek my satisfaction..... Even if he is not exactly happy or positive about doing it. Also I know I present some challenges for any doctor (medical issues and past surgery). My revision is scheduled for end of January which is about 10 months from the last operation.

Just do it - we have come this far. Perseverance is the key to many of life's problems. We are almost there!