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Title: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: Simon on August 09, 2004, 11:08:37 AM
Just had word from the producers. Good news guys! Thanks to everyone who has helped with their work. :)


I just wanted to let you know that the gynaecomastia documentary, Boys With Breasts will be broadcast on Wednesday 18th August at 9pm, on Channel 4.

The programme will also be supported by an online site, with extra information about gynaecomastia and related topics. To see the site go to www.channel4.com/health, which will be available from the week of broadcast.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: troubled-teen-uk on August 09, 2004, 12:46:12 PM
good old channel 4 health documentaries.
they had a similar one on last year that was all about using lipo as a new procedure for treating it.

suprised they didn't come here to find anyone to interview or what not.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: kindherb42 on August 09, 2004, 06:22:37 PM
damn i'm in the US :-/ there no US documentary is there?
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: Simon on August 10, 2004, 10:38:42 AM
I am in talks with the producers on the possibilty of overseas (non-UK) members of the board getting a copy of the programme. Updates soon - but definately no promises... lots of legal issues.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: uk2000 on August 10, 2004, 02:27:51 PM
how long is the documentary for?
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: IT100 on August 11, 2004, 03:12:17 AM
 Probably an hour Uk2000.

And troubled teen, where were you when they were asking for months for people to talk to them about it! Not sure how many people wanted their boobs filmed though... strange that.

IT
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: ifgyne2 on August 12, 2004, 11:43:39 AM
I was interviewed and provided information for this show.  Unfortunately, they were unable to come to the US to film the surgery.  Am looking forward to seeing the program.

Elliot Jacobs, MD, FACS
New York City
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: glinja on August 12, 2004, 01:12:49 PM
Just hope that the c*nt who posted in the lounge area does'nt get his hands on it, it will be like a major wanking vid for him!
Regards
Glinja >:(
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: headheldhigh01 on August 12, 2004, 09:31:46 PM
hate to say it, but i trust british tv, channel 4 included, somewhat more than something like mtv.  there are people here who could do a credible show, but the us thing sounds a lot more like entertainment than anything really informational.  
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
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Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: ifgyne2 on August 18, 2004, 10:48:15 AM
Although I haven't seen the show, you can go to the web site and the article has some good information for everyone with gynecomastia.  http://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/0-9/4health/body/mhe_gynaecomastia.html

Elliot Jacobs, MD, FACS
New York City
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: Normal38 on August 21, 2004, 02:19:38 AM
hello all

just to let you know it was a very interesting show, sensationalist title though, which I am sure boosted their ratings.  

For anyone interested, it covered the condition with the utmost taste and didn't sensationalise Gynaecomastia at all.

The main topics were:

The condition: with very interesting statistics, according the the programme about a 1/3rd of men develop some form of breast tissue at some point in their lives, mainly during puberty, but in most cases this subsides after a period of time.

Men with Gyne and surgery.
Pre OP and post OP of three men (one UK who went through the NHS (no comment)), and one American guy who looked excellent after the OP.

A man form the UK who had had the operation in the 60's where they basically performed a double mastectomy, his nipples were seriously inverted, and the psychological effects were just as deep as his scars.

A man who had accepted Gyne, again a guy from America (good on him, you are a better man than me mate), and even wen't shopping for bras with his wife!!!!!

Men who lactate including an American man who had a over active peturity (sorry I don't know how you spell it) gland, and how surgery had turned his life around. A couple of married hippies (again American, who I found slightly irritating) he had managed to lactate through choice.

And of course Myles who explained in detail the psychological effects of the condition in a very concise way. Men who choose surgery, and men who accept the condition (nice one Myles, and thanks again for this web site).

I hope you guys in America do get the opportunity to see it.  I don't think it offers any greater insight into the condition than this web site can offer, but it was great to see that what is still in real terms a taboo subject discussed openly, and objectively on a TV documentary, on one of the UK's respected terrestial TV channels.

I think that the best thing about the programme was that there are plenty of men out there (like me until a year ago) who think that they are alone, that they are the only one with the condition.  I hope more than anything that people like me get an opportunity to see this documentary and realise that they really are not alone.

By the way for anybody interested.  I have booked to see two plastic surgeons (hedging my bets as it were), but I have to wait until January 2005 due to demand.  

all the best

Normal38




Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: CK on August 22, 2004, 08:51:26 AM
Well I taped the programme.  Saw Merle and everything....LOL
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: headheldhigh01 on August 23, 2004, 06:54:57 PM
normal and ck, thanks for the descriptions.  what was merle like (was he the one normal's calling myles, or different?) and what'd he talk about.  

also, how widely do you think this was seen?  were there a lot of promo teasers for it beforehand, how long in advance, what time did it run, preceded/followed by what?  
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: CK on August 24, 2004, 07:28:55 AM
Merle is good looking.  Hey MERLE, you seeing anybody?      ;)
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: brother_gyne on August 30, 2004, 02:33:25 PM
has anyone seen the trailer for Martin Clunes _ Doc Martin? He is a GP and a man shows him his breasts. Gyne seems to be popping out all over the TV schedules
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: Pedro on August 31, 2004, 03:03:49 PM
Yes, and it didnt give me a lot of faith in talking to my GP about gyno.

P.s. Thanks to channel 4, i now know i'm not alone, which was literally life saving.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: john_loren on December 20, 2004, 06:51:58 PM
Life saving?  Get a LIFE first!!! It's not like it's CANCER!!!
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: headheldhigh01 on December 21, 2004, 09:22:30 PM
if you didn't know it wasn't cancer, it can be paralyzing, and life-destroying in far more undetectable and therefore insidious ways than any "real" cancer.  i never had a channel 4 revelation, i finally did web research last year.  i could have gone on in ignorance instead.  agree with pedro's description, the revelation is life saving.  
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: hypo on January 01, 2005, 09:39:58 PM
Just to put that john_loren's comments into perspective I actually found cancer, at least the first time around, was less psychologically disturbing than gynecomastia.

On the first occasion I had two thirds of my liver removed along with three tumors, the operation for which took ten and a half hours.

So John, I hope you can concede the point that some of these things are relative to the individual.  
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: Dustin08 on January 06, 2005, 11:43:09 AM
john_loren.....thats was beyond rude.....inconsiderate..do u have gyne?
maybe in his eyes it was life saving.....
its not easy to live with gyne.
sometimes emotional pain is worse than physical pain.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: the_dragon on January 06, 2005, 12:38:16 PM
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damn i'm in the US :-/ there no US documentary is there?


Actually there was  a 15-minute piece on Dateline or 20-20
a couple of years ago! They interviewed a few guys, a surgeon and showed before and after pics.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: headheldhigh01 on January 09, 2005, 07:25:23 PM
tlc/learning channel had one and rebroadcast in recent months.  though probably didn't tell you more than you already knew.  
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: Grandpa Bambu on January 17, 2005, 05:35:16 AM
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Life saving?  Get a LIFE first!!! It's not like it's CANCER!!!


I have heard that cancer can be very painful. However, cancer is socially acceptable where as Gyne is not. When society doesn't accept you, you feel like an outcast which can be very painful at times. Especially in your teen years. Some kids ( adults also ) can be very cruel at times ( I speak from experience! ). Some of those with Gyne would rather be dead ( so I have read ) than to go one living with the disfigurement.

So 'john_loren', yes, knowing that there are others with Gyne and that there is a proceedure to correct the condition can be 'Life Saving'.

Don't judge someone else until you have worn their boots for a while!
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: Finrod on March 09, 2005, 02:07:58 PM
Hey people, does anyone know if this program is for download at any place??? I'm from Argentina and i didn't really got a chance to see it. Looking forward to it though, so if anyones has it and could send it to me via internet y would greatly apreciatte, thanks a lot.

Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: hj67 on February 06, 2016, 11:34:41 AM
Here is part of the documentary Boys with Breasts. Kinda bummed its only 3 minutes long though:
https://vimeo.com/3174056
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th A
Post by: gbm on February 08, 2016, 02:49:25 AM
john_loren.....thats was beyond rude.....inconsiderate..do u have gyne?
maybe in his eyes it was life saving.....
its not easy to live with gyne.
sometimes emotional pain is worse than physical pain.

“Emotional Pain”? From developing breasts?

What do you know of emotional pain? Try fighting for your life and the lives of the men you command in 7 different conflicts across the world. Try being shot, blown 30 feet through the air by a 120mm mortar. Try pulling an unexploded Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) out of the side of the 19 year old soldier sitting next to you and being grateful that it did not go off and that it was him and not you. “Emotional Pain”? How about sending good young men to a certain death or making the decision to blow-up an entire village killing every man woman and child just to get 1 very bad guy.

You no NOTHING of emotional pain.

I have lived with developing breasts for 5 years which is a side effect of a medical treatment for an enlarged and precancerous Prostate. I have grown fully formed 38D Breasts on a 173cm,75kg frame.  Yet I have thrived in business and with numerous ladies.

Stop whining and take control of your life. Complaining and feeling sorry for yourself is easy, doing something constructive takes work and personal fortitude.

Additionally:

Sgt Thai Lee had one testicle 'blown off' and the other crushed while he was serving as an Army medic in Afghanistan.

The Department of Defense Trauma Registry showed that more than 1,200 US military members in Afghanistan and Iraq have suffered similar injuries between 2003 and 2014.

So Dustin08 you think that you are suffering “Emotional Pain”.


Grow Up.



lol took you 11 years to reply, the thing is you have only had it for 5 years and don't really understand the real pain that is caused by this. When your childhood gets robbed because of these tumors, when you cant live freely in your 20s. its obviously different if youve lived your life and that got gyne try getting it when your a child and living with daily degradation from your peers. No one forced you to join the army its something you choose however gyno is not a choice so dont even compare the two.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: hammer on February 08, 2016, 12:12:33 PM
What I don't get, I had gyno as a kid, and no one took my childhood away from me! I had it as a teen, I had girl friends and no problems then either! If someone tried to tease me I took care of the problem then and there, and it didn't continue! I didn't allow myself to be a victim!

Like Tigerpaws I served my country, I was a Navy Diver, and once in a while one of my shipmates would say that my boobs make them miss their wives, but it was all in fun, as they all knew I could kick their ass if they took it to far!

After that I had my own business and fathered 5 kids and now have 4 grand children! My breast size are now a 46H!

I'm with TigerPaws here, stop whining and do what you need to do one way or another!
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: gbm on February 09, 2016, 04:40:27 AM
What I don't get, I had gyno as a kid, and no one took my childhood away from me! I had it as a teen, I had girl friends and no problems then either! If someone tried to tease me I took care of the problem then and there, and it didn't continue! I didn't allow myself to be a victim!

Like Tigerpaws I served my country, I was a Navy Diver, and once in a while one of my shipmates would say that my boobs make them miss their wives, but it was all in fun, as they all knew I could kick their ass if they took it to far!

After that I had my own business and fathered 5 kids and now have 4 grand children! My breast size are now a 46H!

I'm with TigerPaws here, stop whining and do what you need to do one way or another!

im not whining its just ignorant to tell someone you don't know at all that they no nothing about emotional pain. good on you for living with your condition everyone has different experiences. I respect every man who has gyno and was able to overcome however just because you could do it doesn't mean its the same for others. I dont know how old u are but believe me when i say middleschools and highschools are awhole different animal nowadays.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: hammer on February 09, 2016, 07:00:37 AM
I'm 58 years old, graduated high school 1976, served 4 years US Navy 7 year US Army reserves, master carpenter/ general contractor was my trade, as well as journeyman welder.

Yep, you're right kids now days are different, and it can be very disappointing!

My kids are between the ages of 35 and 23 and as I said I have 5 of them, but one was killed at the age of 6! I have 4 grand children too! I can say I'm proud of how mine are doing!

Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: Alchemist on February 10, 2016, 12:01:52 AM
 im not whining its just ignorant to tell someone you don't know at all that they no nothing about emotional pain. good on you for living with your condition everyone has different experiences. I respect every man who has gyno and was able to overcome however just because you could do it doesn't mean its the same for others. I dont know how old u are but believe me when i say middleschools and highschools are awhole different animal nowadays.

Hi GBM,

Does everybody strip after gym and all parade through the shower, tossed a towel after you come out depending on the mood of the the guys distributing the towels.  Do you have to play skins and shirts for sports in gym and always  all the guys with large breasts ending up on skins?  Or don't they do those any more?  I was photographed in the shower and the guy made hundreds of prints distributed to kids in all the schools we associated with,. 

I was in a lot of fights.  I had all the girlfriends I wanted and could handle. I graduated in '66.  Jr High was hell then and I imagine it is hell now for all sorts of reasons.  The question however, and it is something I have been wondering is why do some guys, many with something that isn't even visible to others, develop PTSD and/or body dysmorphic disorder that doesn't appear significantly different from anorexia or bulimia.  In college I went out with the girl who started the school nudist club.  I had already been skinny dipping for some years at that point as I discovered that when everybody is nude, all bodies are equal.  Nobody dares anything because they don't want the responses they would get.  They become educated in a "do unto others..." situation. 

I went the "get rid of body shame" route rather than make it into an extreme body shame that becomes life destroying shame and fear.  For some, the shame then transfers to the scars and remaining shape so they still can't go to the beach or dare to be seen shirtless or whatever.   So 99.98% to 99.99% of those with gyne don't get surgery, and 0.01% to 0.02% do get surgery, each year, some after a couple of years and some after 30+ years.  A few have significant long lasting pain that isn't prevented by a bra and it becomes something needing treatment.  So what causes the extreme response.  Date of birth isn't a factor.  There are about the same numbers each decade with extreme "ruins my life" fear and shame response.  Why?  What triggers that?  I've been through the mill about as bad as it gets as do many.  And fat shaming was very big in the 50s and 60s and 70s.  Now fat guys can even wear t-shirts.  That was unthinkable in the 50s and 60s.  I was harassed about my body from age 5 (hidden penis of "northern horse barbarians").  You add that to c-cup breasts in 7th grade in the hell of jr high.  And I was a ripe candidate for PTSD.  What triggers some guys into it?  Maybe you can answer that.  Have fun.  Enjoy your life.

Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: gbm on February 10, 2016, 03:33:34 AM
im not whining its just ignorant to tell someone you don't know at all that they no nothing about emotional pain. good on you for living with your condition everyone has different experiences. I respect every man who has gyno and was able to overcome however just because you could do it doesn't mean its the same for others. I dont know how old u are but believe me when i say middleschools and highschools are awhole different animal nowadays.

Hi GBM,

Does everybody strip after gym and all parade through the shower, tossed a towel after you come out depending on the mood of the the guys distributing the towels.  Do you have to play skins and shirts for sports in gym and always  all the guys with large breasts ending up on skins?  Or don't they do those any more?  I was photographed in the shower and the guy made hundreds of prints distributed to kids in all the schools we associated with,.  

I was in a lot of fights.  I had all the girlfriends I wanted and could handle. I graduated in '66.  Jr High was hell then and I imagine it is hell now for all sorts of reasons.  The question however, and it is something I have been wondering is why do some guys, many with something that isn't even visible to others, develop PTSD and/or body dysmorphic disorder that doesn't appear significantly different from anorexia or bulimia.  In college I went out with the girl who started the school nudist club.  I had already been skinny dipping for some years at that point as I discovered that when everybody is nude, all bodies are equal.  Nobody dares anything because they don't want the responses they would get.  They become educated in a "do unto others..." situation.  

I went the "get rid of body shame" route rather than make it into an extreme body shame that becomes life destroying shame and fear.  For some, the shame then transfers to the scars and remaining shape so they still can't go to the beach or dare to be seen shirtless or whatever.   So 99.98% to 99.99% of those with gyne don't get surgery, and 0.01% to 0.02% do get surgery, each year, some after a couple of years and some after 30+ years.  A few have significant long lasting pain that isn't prevented by a bra and it becomes something needing treatment.  So what causes the extreme response.  Date of birth isn't a factor.  There are about the same numbers each decade with extreme "ruins my life" fear and shame response.  Why?  What triggers that?  I've been through the mill about as bad as it gets as do many.  And fat shaming was very big in the 50s and 60s and 70s.  Now fat guys can even wear t-shirts.  That was unthinkable in the 50s and 60s.  I was harassed about my body from age 5 (hidden penis of "northern horse barbarians").  You add that to c-cup breasts in 7th grade in the hell of jr high.  And I was a ripe candidate for PTSD.  What triggers some guys into it?  Maybe you can answer that.  Have fun.  Enjoy your life.


With the increasing influence of the media and the internet and global stars like Justin Bieber and Zayn Malik{ young good looking men mainly with their shirts off}, with social media sites such as Instagram{ that allow you to share your photos} men are increasingly under more and more pressure to conform to a certain body image. Now compare this to the past the Beatles for example, you wouldn't ever see them shirtless etc however all major hollywood stars and young pop singers now have unrealistic bodies.In these times of an increasing awareness and more and more pressure on men then ever before to look good, something like gynecomastia can be devastating and can have severe consequences.  In the past men were under much less pressure and there were far few cases of body image disorders{ you can look up research supporting this statement}.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: hammer on February 10, 2016, 06:32:22 AM
"I'll be back"
 said the termanater, the guy with the huge chest and big muscles!
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: rrr on February 10, 2016, 08:38:47 AM
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With the increasing influence of the media and the internet and global stars like Justin Bieber and Zayn Malik{ young good looking men mainly with their shirts off}

OK, this is problem number one. These "guys" are what you aspire to look like?
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 men are increasingly under more and more pressure to conform to a certain body image.

By whom? Is there a secret government agency forcing men to conform to a certain image?
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however all major hollywood stars and young pop singers now have unrealistic bodies.In these times of an increasing awareness and more and more pressure on men then ever before to look good,

How can you say unrealistic, if they have them? You don't get a great body by sitting on your ass in front of the TV.
Again, who is putting on this pressure? That same secret agency?
The only "pressure" I have seen is to be relatively fit and not be fat - that goes for males and females.
If you take body image to extremes and expect perfection, you will ALWAYS be disappointed. Are you also looking for perfection in any partner?
I get that boobs on a guy are not attractive, nor do they fit the "perfect" image, but out of the millions of guys with gyno, it's only a small fraction that have anything anyone would notice. There are several of us here, and while I can't speak for them, but I know it baffles me when ripped guys post photos that *may* show a bit of nipple puffiness (that nobody else would ever notice) and complain how their life has been ruined by it.
In most cases, the "ruined life" is in the eye of the beholder, and that eye is firmly planted in the individual complaining.

B
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: TigerPaws on February 10, 2016, 10:01:11 AM
Bummed and hammer are correct, if someone is so shallow as to care what others think then perhaps they need to see the best friend money can buy, a Psychiatrist because they have far deeper problems than simply growing breasts.

In a recent National Security publication an article was published praising Social Media for assisting every National Security Agency Globally for creating a medium in which more than a Billion people have voluntarily created on-line searchable dossiers on themselves. These fully available files journal and catalog people's lives who have ever (and they are never truly deleted) posted anything about themselves.

Through automated algorithms a pattern can be built on just about anyone who is or ever has been on Social Media. Who you are, what you do and where you go, everyone you are having and have had contact with and what their relationship with you is including your family and their contacts.

Social Media and their biggest supporters in Hollywood and the Paparazzi feed the narcissism that grips far too many of the under 30 crowd. People have been driven to kill themselves because of what others have said on Social Media.

gbm develop some self esteem, so you are growing breasts, big deal, get off of the Narcissistic, me, me, look at me bandwagon. As long as you do what others do and think you should do then you will become nothing because inside where it counts you will be nothing.

You have heard from several other men who also grew up with breasts and those who have developed them later in life. Yet all have been and are successful in their lives, if stripping off your shirt and looking ripped so you can get "likes" on social media is your thing then you are headed for a big disappointment in life because untimely "No One Cares If You Live Or Die" and No One Will Remember You.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: gbm on February 11, 2016, 12:37:41 AM
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With the increasing influence of the media and the internet and global stars like Justin Bieber and Zayn Malik{ young good looking men mainly with their shirts off}

OK, this is problem number one. These "guys" are what you aspire to look like?
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men are increasingly under more and more pressure to conform to a certain body image.

By whom? Is there a secret government agency forcing men to conform to a certain image?
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however all major hollywood stars and young pop singers now have unrealistic bodies.In these times of an increasing awareness and more and more pressure on men then ever before to look good,

How can you say unrealistic, if they have them? You don't get a great body by sitting on your ass in front of the TV.
Again, who is putting on this pressure? That same secret agency?
The only "pressure" I have seen is to be relatively fit and not be fat - that goes for males and females.
If you take body image to extremes and expect perfection, you will ALWAYS be disappointed. Are you also looking for perfection in any partner?
I get that boobs on a guy are not attractive, nor do they fit the "perfect" image, but out of the millions of guys with gyno, it's only a small fraction that have anything anyone would notice. There are several of us here, and while I can't speak for them, but I know it baffles me when ripped guys post photos that *may* show a bit of nipple puffiness (that nobody else would ever notice) and complain how their life has been ruined by it.
In most cases, the "ruined life" is in the eye of the beholder, and that eye is firmly planted in the individual complaining.

B

I say unrealistic because these actors or most of them use steroids and personal trainers. Not everyone can do that.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: gbm on February 11, 2016, 12:39:41 AM
Bummed and hammer are correct, if someone is so shallow as to care what others think then perhaps they need to see the best friend money can buy, a Psychiatrist because they have far deeper problems than simply growing breasts.

In a recent National Security publication an article was published praising Social Media for assisting every National Security Agency Globally for creating a medium in which more than a Billion people have voluntarily created on-line searchable dossiers on themselves. These fully available files journal and catalog people's lives who have ever (and they are never truly deleted) posted anything about themselves.

Through automated algorithms a pattern can be built on just about anyone who is or ever has been on Social Media. Who you are, what you do and where you go, everyone you are having and have had contact with and what their relationship with you is including your family and their contacts.

Social Media and their biggest supporters in Hollywood and the Paparazzi feed the narcissism that grips far too many of the under 30 crowd. People have been driven to kill themselves because of what others have said on Social Media.

gbm develop some self esteem, so you are growing breasts, big deal, get off of the Narcissistic, me, me, look at me bandwagon. As long as you do what others do and think you should do then you will become nothing because inside where it counts you will be nothing.

You have heard from several other men who also grew up with breasts and those who have developed them later in life. Yet all have been and are successful in their lives, if stripping off your shirt and looking ripped so you can get "likes" on social media is your thing then you are headed for a big disappointment in life because untimely "No One Cares If You Live Or Die" and No One Will Remember You.


I care very much about how I look and what others think about me especially females. You guys may be happy with your breasts but for me it's get rid or die trying .
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: rrr on February 11, 2016, 08:09:59 AM
gbm said:
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I care very much about how I look and what others think about me especially females. You guys may be happy with your breasts but for me it's get rid or die trying .

That is such an unhealthy attitude, I cannot believe it. So you want a female to choose you based strictly on appearance? Nevermind your personality, goals, and brain? Is that how you choose females - only appearance matters, nothing else?
Good luck with that type of relationship and life, 'cause we all get older, and appearance changes for the worse.
Like tigerpaws said, you need to see an expert, because your lifeview is seriously distorted.
B and my 0.02p or $0.03 - depending on where you live
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: TigerPaws on February 11, 2016, 09:56:04 AM
gbm,

I am and always have been single, I have fully developed 38D breasts (and they are still growing) on a 5' 8" 165lb (74.8kg) frame, so my breasts can be VERY noticeable. I am well over 60 and yet I date women between 37 and occasionally as old as 42, all are exceptionally beautiful, intelligent, well educated and successful.

Breasts have NOTHING to do with meeting and having a meaningful (and sometimes not so meaningful but a lot of fun) relationship. Most of the Ladies (and there are many) either totally accept that I have breasts or they are not around me for long. I am currently dating 2 very beautiful women, one was (and occasionally still) graces the pages of various fashion and glamour magazines, the other is a former Miss Universe contestant.

Just because I have breasts dose not mean less success with the Ladies or in business. it is ALL about attitude and a belief in yourself.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: gbm on February 12, 2016, 03:31:46 AM
gbm,

I am and always have been single, I have fully developed 38D breasts (and they are still growing) on a 5' 8" 165lb (74.8kg) frame, so my breasts can be VERY noticeable. I am well over 60 and yet I date women between 37 and occasionally as old as 42, all are exceptionally beautiful, intelligent, well educated and successful.

Breasts have NOTHING to do with meeting and having a meaningful (and sometimes not so meaningful but a lot of fun) relationship. Most of the Ladies (and there are many) either totally accept that I have breasts or they are not around me for long. I am currently dating 2 very beautiful women, one was (and occasionally still) graces the pages of various fashion and glamour magazines, the other is a former Miss Universe contestant.

Just because I have breasts dose not mean less success with the Ladies or in business. it is ALL about attitude and a belief in yourself.

I'm sorry but i find that a little hard to believe unless your filthy rich. If its true big up to you man.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: gbm on February 12, 2016, 03:32:50 AM
gbm said:
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I care very much about how I look and what others think about me especially females. You guys may be happy with your breasts but for me it's get rid or die trying .

That is such an unhealthy attitude, I cannot believe it. So you want a female to choose you based strictly on appearance? Nevermind your personality, goals, and brain? Is that how you choose females - only appearance matters, nothing else?
Good luck with that type of relationship and life, 'cause we all get older, and appearance changes for the worse.
Like tigerpaws said, you need to see an expert, because your lifeview is seriously distorted.
B and my 0.02p or $0.03 - depending on where you live

I'm not looking for any relationships tbh, just a hit and run.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: TigerPaws on February 12, 2016, 08:58:36 AM
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I'm sorry but i find that a little hard to believe unless your filthy rich. If its true big up to you man.
Being Rich is a matter of perspective, to someone earning nothing 100k a year is rich, to someone making 250k a year 1 mil is rich. Where dose it stop?

My 78' Yacht looks like a dingy next to the plethora of 200' plus boats here in the harbor, my Falcon 50 TransAtlantic Jet looks like a Sunday flyer next to the private and corporate 757's and 747's.

So what is Rich.

If all you want is a quick bang and go then the collages and universities are fertile hunting grounds, just remember that it is a numbers game, the more women you meet the better your odds.

Turn your perceived faults into an asset. the key is confidence, at 50 I gave up on bedding the under 30 crowd of women. Pretty yes, tight hard bodies certainly but eventually most men want to be around a Lady of substance and intelligence. Someone who knows how to dress, act and comport herself with grace and dignity in any setting. Intelligence, beauty, grace and charm are not mutually exclusive.

Women are the same worldwide, they have certain, wants, needs and desires. Play into those and you can bed all the women that you want.
Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: Alchemist on February 12, 2016, 04:27:18 PM
gbm,

I am and always have been single, I have fully developed 38D breasts (and they are still growing) on a 5' 8" 165lb (74.8kg) frame, so my breasts can be VERY noticeable. I am well over 60 and yet I date women between 37 and occasionally as old as 42, all are exceptionally beautiful, intelligent, well educated and successful.

Breasts have NOTHING to do with meeting and having a meaningful (and sometimes not so meaningful but a lot of fun) relationship. Most of the Ladies (and there are many) either totally accept that I have breasts or they are not around me for long. I am currently dating 2 very beautiful women, one was (and occasionally still) graces the pages of various fashion and glamour magazines, the other is a former Miss Universe contestant.

Just because I have breasts dose not mean less success with the Ladies or in business. it is ALL about attitude and a belief in yourself.

I'm sorry but i find that a little hard to believe unless your filthy rich. If its true big up to you man.

While I don't run my social life the way TigerPaws does, I have no reason at all to doubt what he says about it.  I've known plenty of people with plenty of money, and while that changes things in some ways, it changes nothing about men's breasts.  I've actually been trying to stay alive from medical problems that when I first read about the disorder decades ago, that there were "3 known adult survivors and they are institutionalized. because of the neurological damage".  I didn't decide that I would be better off dead because of breasts (D or DD my whole adult life dependent upon health related conditions, C cup by 7th grade.  I sure did get pissed off at the bullies, from coaches and gym teachers to multitudes of MALE students. Other males appear to be very threatened based on their reactions.  The girls on the other hand generally found me perfectly acceptable even when mine were bigger than theirs.  I also got plenty of offers of "you can feel mine if I can feel yours".  They were curious.

And at nudist clubs nobody at all gave a damn. And lot's of men have breasts or puffy nipples as the statistics would indicate. I would get a lot more dancing in at the clubs if I felt better about my dancing abilities.  I can't feel my feet well enough not to trample all over their feet sometimes.

I'm in a relationship, a really good one, that I wouldn't trade for anything, for the past decade and married for 30+ years before that which was good until my illness took much of my life away. 

Having breasts affected only one person, me.  Not one lady cared at all. They more likely caused opportunities I wouldn't have had otherwise.

I'm not in a hurry to die.  My body tend to stop working from almost anything, even medications. I am a poor risk for surgery.  It could be my life to get results that I can see from before and after pictures that would never be satisfying to me.  I've had to spend 3x as much on my teeth this last year as a double mastectomy would cost, and have been miserable for 6 months.

You do what you feel you must, it's your life.  I sincerely doubt that it will make the kind of difference with women you seem to think.  If your attitudes change the women's response will change.  That is true whether you have surgery or not. 

The difference I see from your answer is that it appears to be less PTSD from traumatic experiences and more body dysmorphic disorder from the stories you tell yourself.  There is no way that the body I was born with was ever going to fit some abstract "perfection".  I was lucky that it was reasonably functional most years.

Good luck in finding happiness.  I just don't think that things happen with women quite the way you think.


Title: Re: UK Channel 4 Gynecomastia Documentary - 18th Aug!
Post by: nestingdoll on February 29, 2016, 09:53:44 PM
has anyone seen the trailer for Martin Clunes _ Doc Martin? He is a GP and a man shows him his breasts. Gyne seems to be popping out all over the TV schedules
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