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Title: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 17, 2019, 11:53:36 AM
That is the question...

On a more straight-faced note, I've been wondering about this for a while, and finally managed to join (for some reason I kept getting "forbidden.  Dangerous network" with different browsers, different ISPs, different devices, different email addresses, and even trying with a VPN).  Let's see...

1.  Going on 27 years, development started fairly recently (a few years ago).
2.  Last I measured, I was hovering around 34C, 36A, 36B going purely by the two basic measurements.
3.  I don't notice any jiggling while walking at a normal pace, but when I walk more quickly I do feel a destinctive "thud" in my chest area.
4.  I do suffer from chafing in the winter.  Not a problem right now as our winter was very short lived.
5.  I do have back pain, but it's hard to say if the gyno is a contributing factor.  I fell from stairs back in school, and my back has never been the same.
6.  This is a marjor point - I'm in South Africa.  So keep in mind that society here (and the entire family, myself included) is rather conservative to put it mildly.  I personally try to acknowledge valid points though, in case somebody wonders.
7.  Another important note.  Due to life having happened, I had to move back in with my parents.  No prospect of being on my own for the time being, I'm not even sure when I'll be able to work again.  That also raises the issue of laundry, I don't see how they will not know.

As for how  they're shaped.  When completely soft, my nipples do have a bit of a conical shape, as you'd expect.  There's not too much that I can feel, but I do feel some small lumps in the nipple areas.  I'd say they're shallow.  Also, I noticed some of my shirts (I wear button shirts almost exclusively) will sometimes struggle in the chest area depending on how I hold my arms.  I'm not doing anything to hide what I have, but I'm also (obviously) not advertising.  If I do need a bra, it might also help if I have some way to back it up.  Oh, and lastly, I'd prefer to stay away from having to wear layers.  It can get rather hot, only having aircon in the car.


Side-note:  Typing this info is not so easy...
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on August 17, 2019, 01:39:43 PM
The choice to start wearing a bra or not is a personal one. No one can tell if you should or shouldn't. Many people may give your their opinion, but only you know your situation. Personal acceptance continues even after the decision to wear and to begin wearing has occurred.

If your breasts are self supporting, and it sounds like yours may be, then a bra probably isn't needed. You may want to look into compression shirts. You will be able to laundry those without causing suspicion but it will give you some support and will decrease your projection. If you have lumps under the nipple, then you more than likely have some degree of gynecomastia.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 17, 2019, 01:57:10 PM
To be honest, I'm uncertain about it.  I have come to the conclusion that it is gyno and not just fat, going by how my nipples are not lying flat.  And of course the lumps, although they are by no means large.

And yes, they're self-supporting.  The main thing I've been wondering about is discomfort of my shirt moving against them.  But fortunately the actual chafing only bothers me in the winter.

EDIT:  I'll try to get some better photos soon.  For now, this is what I mean with my nipples not lying flat.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: prc7966 on August 17, 2019, 03:46:48 PM
Before I started wearing a bra, I made out ok wearing a women's tank top as an undershirt. It helped immensely with chafing. They are much softer than anything I could find in the men's section, and also they were pretty well form fitting without being so tight that it is uncomfortable. They didn't help me with the bouncing all day and subsequent pain from bouncing, but it did help a lot with chafing. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: SideSet on August 17, 2019, 03:59:33 PM
Feminine, puffy nipple
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 17, 2019, 04:11:23 PM
PRC:  I have noticed that undershirts help with chafing.  But of course I can no longer wear long sleeved ones in the winter, as the sleeves pressing against my arms can get very painful.  I'll consider sleeveless in the winter, but as it is they're all long sleeve...

Sideset:  Thought so.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on August 17, 2019, 04:37:42 PM
Nipple protectors are great chafing protectors as well.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: hammer on August 18, 2019, 10:18:37 AM
Johndoe1 was very much right on, when he said to wear a bra or not wear one come down to a personal choice! There is no medical evidence that it is necessary to wear one! Yes, those of us with larger breasts usually have found comfort in wearing them and they reduce the wiggle and giggle of breast while moving making them less noticeable as well!

I am a (H) cub, band size unknown at this time due to loss of 40 plus pounds, but I have always been one to wear one on and off due to personal desire or mood swings, or ever temperature conditions as well. If it was hotter I would have one on to avoid to heat rash under the boob!

So, I wish you all the best in this time of figuring this all out, as it isn't any fun! At 61 I've been doing it for a long time myself!

Bob
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 18, 2019, 12:35:54 PM
Johndoe:  I've looked that up.  At first I didn't see how that could work (I got resuslts for the wrong kind), but that might help  I have at times grabbed some electrical insulation tape out of desperation.  There is also some sensitivity spread across my breasts (might as well say it that way) which can also bother a bit, but not terribly.

Hammer:  I'm glad I don't have them that large.  Mine are by no means huge, and they might get a bit smaller when I can finally get myself to eat less and start cycling again.  But, I'm not sure to what extent they'll go away (not referring to the breast tissue).  Before the development I was also a bit overweight (I have a naturally small build), but even so I was as flat as a window pane in the chest.

I assume with them being on the decently small side with not much projection, it's safe to assume that my back pain is just from that school accident?  I'm still planning to post some decent pictures, but I messed up with my last attempt (didn't think of how the phone flash would flatten everything).

Oh, and thanks for the helpful replies.  I actually wondered if I would get the "inaugural bashing" that some new members seem to have received.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on August 18, 2019, 02:38:54 PM
Oh, and thanks for the helpful replies.  I actually wondered if I would get the "inaugural bashing" that some new members seem to have received.
I don't know about any "inaugural bashing", but here in the Acceptance area, all are welcome. I know in some of the other areas of this website (surgery), people are not as understanding as one would hope, and I avoid those since surgery is not what I am looking for. But here in this section of the website, we all wear bras or are thinking about wearing bras. We look out after each other.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 18, 2019, 04:16:09 PM
I just looked, it seems that one thread I remember was back in '05.  So that does make a bit of a difference.  In that thread a few people were very nasty, before some more helpful members started to chime in (it looks like they were too late).  I do seem to remember seeing a discussion of such comments, but I don't see it right now so I don't know when that was.  I might also be remembering it wrong.

Anyway, this is what they look like.  As I said, not that much projection.  But still, seeing myself in a mirror it's clear that anybody who looks will see them.  Although the extra weight I still want to rid myself of does make them blend in a bit.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: gyneco_jason on August 18, 2019, 10:56:33 PM


On a more straight-faced note, I've been wondering about this for a while, and finally managed to join (for some reason I kept getting "forbidden.  Dangerous network" with different browsers, different ISPs, different devices, different email addresses, and even trying with a VPN).  Let's see...
I've had this problem too.

 Oh, and lastly, I'd prefer to stay away from having to wear layers.  It can get rather hot, only having aircon in the car.

This is a problem a lot of us deal with. I usually have to go with wireless bras in the summer so people don't notice the outline. I actually look forward to the cold weather because I can start wearing underwires again.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Getting boobs on August 19, 2019, 12:03:55 AM
I am fairly new to this as well. I have both wireless and underwire, I have found that I much prefer the look and feel of the underwire. There is a learning curve to getting everything to settle in the cups just right, but once you get that figured out. I feel much better in the vs a soft cup.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on August 19, 2019, 07:28:23 AM
While underwires shape the breast more in a feminine shape, the support, containment and comfort outweighs the look. Depending on the style of bra and the top, I have found that I can control the look of my breasts, a tactic women use all the time. As most men, I had (incorrectly) assumed that women's breasts were always on display, because that is what breasts do, right? No so. If you pay attention, most women, in non formal or semi formal situations or casual or relaxed situations, wear tops that do not show off the contours of the breast. There may be two bumps that are visible, but you don't see the contour of the breasts as you would in a dress or form fitting top that a woman would wear in a work environment or in a more formal situation that is meant to draw attention to the chest. Once I realized that and saw what they were wearing for the look, I started to convert that look into what will work for a man and I was amazed at the results. Even with underwire bras that have a lot of lift of the breasts, I could keep the look toned down. It really is true, the bra makes the top and the top makes the bra. It takes a little practice, but the results are more comfort, better support and containment and less wondering eyes. Win, win, in my book.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 19, 2019, 07:44:35 AM
Interesting, although it does make sense.  Women's breasts do not look the same size consistently.

For now at least it looks like the answer for me is to just go on as usual.  But I am curious, what did you learn in terms of how to dress?  I assume a looser shirt will downplay breast size?  I also noticed myself that any printing/pattern on a shirt makes it more obvious, as the pattern warps.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 19, 2019, 09:08:49 AM
Johndoe is absolutely right when he said the bra makes the top and the top makes the bra. In other words, through trial and error, you have see what works for you. I would suggest,  as the name suggests that you start with the foundation garments first, meaning the bra. Once you find a bra that fits and gives you the shape that works best for you and your girls, then you can concentrate on a top that fits you and will accommodate the girls. 

I wear underwire bras exclusively outside of my home. I prefer the shape and support. An underwire bra is worth the time and effort to get one that fits comfortably. Warmer months, I wear lace cups because they are cooler and less boob sweat. The cooler months I'll be wearing a molded cup bra because my nipples are sensitive to the cold and I'm usually on high beams and the molded cups reduce nipple protrusion. In the sub category of underwire bras, I usually stick to balconette or full coverage bras, depending on my top that I wear with it.

The top can be a challenge as well. I'm a 3 38H in most of my bras. Men's shirts don't work well for me. I usually shop Torrid and Lane Bryant or Woman Within for my button down blouses that have tops that fit the more well endowed women. 

It.can be a little difficult at first, but don't be afraid to ask an SA for help. Buying and wearing women's clothing is not the end of the world or masculinity.  You're only wearing clothes that fit. Also if you're hips and bottom start developing as well, all of the above stores can will be able to get you in something that fits your lower half as well.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 19, 2019, 10:01:27 AM
I'll keep that info in mind, if it comes to that.  Coming here has actually helped with more than just advice, I finally managed to start cycling.  So bearing in mind that the planned weight loss (currently 71kg, before I got my license and got lazy I was 63) will likely make my breasts more prominent, I might end up having to go that route.

Also, I've actually started to wonder about that last bit, but it might just be my imagination.  My knees are bent in, so that might affect things, but it does look to me like I might have some degree of widening.  I still manage with mens clothes though.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 19, 2019, 12:42:55 PM
It got to the point with me 8n my early 20s that even the mens loose or relaxed pants weren't working for me. I ended up with a terrible looking cinched waist. That's when I started wearing women's pants. To be honest,  besides the fit, the material uses for women's jeans and slacks is much better suited. They are generally stretchy.and give me more flexibility. The material is also generally lighter which is great for the summer months. In the winter, I can always layer with leggings or my compression pantyhose that I wear for my varicose veins. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Goodnplenty on August 19, 2019, 04:49:06 PM
The "Dangerous Network " message is caused by cookies not being fully enabled.   I went through several weeks of not being able to post after I changed my security settings regarding cookies.  It took me awhile to make the correlation because I made the change on one device (phone) but it carried across all my devices and various browsers. 

Most of the year I can get choose to either wear a bra or not.  I can fill a 38C but I don't have a lot of projection or sag so without a bra they just look like flabby pecs.  With that being said I do find that wearing a bra feels better in general.  However when the weather turns cold the nipple pain can be excruciating without even moving.  With a little movement causing chafing and the occasional nipple scrape on any random object I would argue that it's on par with being kick in the family jewels.   So in the winter I usually end up wearing a padded sports bra to keep the girls toasty warm.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 19, 2019, 05:06:39 PM
In my case the "dangerous network" issue was magically fixed when I stayed as far from the site as possible for about 24 days or something.  No other changes.  I actually pretty much gave up, and just gave it one last try.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: gyneco_jason on August 19, 2019, 06:15:30 PM
While underwires shape the breast more in a feminine shape, the support, containment and comfort outweighs the look.
I definitely agree with you, but my breasts are really obvious in an underwire unless I'm wearing a loose, baggy top or layers. Not ideal for hot weather.

Depending on the style of bra and the top, I have found that I can control the look of my breasts, a tactic women use all the time. As most men, I had (incorrectly) assumed that women's breasts were always on display, because that is what breasts do, right? No so. If you pay attention, most women, in non formal or semi formal situations or casual or relaxed situations, wear tops that do not show off the contours of the breast. There may be two bumps that are visible, but you don't see the contour of the breasts as you would in a dress or form fitting top that a woman would wear in a work environment or in a more formal situation that is meant to draw attention to the chest. Once I realized that and saw what they were wearing for the look, I started to convert that look into what will work for a man and I was amazed at the results.
What exactly do you mean by this? I would love to have the support of an underwire without having a big obvious feminine-looking bust, but I can't seem to pull it off.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Getting boobs on August 19, 2019, 06:30:08 PM
I think he is saying that match the style of bra you are wearing to match the top, you can make them less noticeable. I am still a work in progress with this, but getting there. I have pretty much came to accept that if you look close enough, your going to see them. So I just try to reduce what there is to see
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 20, 2019, 08:20:11 AM
If you go to a store like Torrid or Lane Bryant and tell the ladies there what you are trying to achieve with the bra that you want to wear, they will definitely have some great options or ideas to achieve the look you want.  I bought most of my blouses based on their suggestions. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on August 20, 2019, 10:30:54 AM

Depending on the style of bra and the top, I have found that I can control the look of my breasts, a tactic women use all the time. As most men, I had (incorrectly) assumed that women's breasts were always on display, because that is what breasts do, right? No so. If you pay attention, most women, in non formal or semi formal situations or casual or relaxed situations, wear tops that do not show off the contours of the breast. There may be two bumps that are visible, but you don't see the contour of the breasts as you would in a dress or form fitting top that a woman would wear in a work environment or in a more formal situation that is meant to draw attention to the chest. Once I realized that and saw what they were wearing for the look, I started to convert that look into what will work for a man and I was amazed at the results.
What exactly do you mean by this? I would love to have the support of an underwire without having a big obvious feminine-looking bust, but I can't seem to pull it off.
You have all styles of bras like underwire, soft cup, minimizers, bralettes, unlined, molded cup, stitched (also known as cut and sew), tee shirt, plunge, full coverage, demi, side support, bottom support, wide gore, narrow gore, push up, tall wires, short wires, sports bras and their variants. All can shape/project the breasts in certain ways. Women's clothes demand all different styles of bras to shape the breast to a specific look depending on the top/dress that the woman wants to wear. We can use this to our advantage as well. One would think that if you wear an oversized shirt, problem solved. But actually, you are drawing attention to yourself because now your top is too large and it looks out of proportion to the rest of your body.

If you have breasts that that look more than pecs, you can't totally hide them. You have to find a way to disguise/camouflage them. Women do this all the time. How many times do you see a woman and you can't remember anything about her breasts? She has breasts, right? You didn't notice them. Your eye was never drawn to her chest due to the way she was wearing her clothes. This works the same way for us. Just this morning, I had to go to the doctor. She knows about my gynecomastia. We discussed it, as usual. She asked me if I was wearing a bra. I said I was, and she said that she hadn't noticed before I set down and couldn't really tell without looking closely and even then she wasn't sure. She asked me had increased in size because the way I was dressed, she couldn't tell. She congratulated me on getting the support I needed without looking like a guy in drag. I think she was impressed! So, yes, it possible to tone things down.

Myself, I will wear non-fitted tops, button downs and polos. The polos are usually one size larger than I wear, but you have to be careful not to get the too big look. I will get tops in dark solid colors (NOT WHITE! or white variants, it's like wearing a neon sign advertising your bra/breasts!) and muted patterns to confuse the eyes, BUT NOT STRIPES! Stripes will outline your curves. That is why women don't wear stripes because it adds the illusion of weight to their bodies. I usually wear a form fitting woman's layering tank underneath because a man's undershirt is too warm when wearing a bra and is too bulky under a polo, where the woman's layering tank is made to smooth out the look without being bulky or warm. When it comes to tee shirts, I will wear either one or two sizes larger, depending on the cut, but around the house, I will wear my regular size and let the girls "come out to play" but if I leave the house, I will either add a layer on top or will put on a different top depending the situation and weather.

Something that bothers me is since men's shirts do not have any room in the chest for breasts, the cloth will pull down on the breasts and be uncomfortable. This will cause me to slump to compensate for the discomfort and not only messes up my posture, which can screw up my back, but will also draw attention to me since slumping or slouching is not a normal posture so I have to be careful how I gather the front of the shirt to give enough room for the girls, but not to show them off. It's a fine line.

These are all things I learned from female friends or from observing women in the wild.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 20, 2019, 10:45:08 AM
One thing I hate with some shirts is strained buttons.  As you said, men's shirts don't have any room up front (the back has lots of room to accomodate for arm movement).  And it even bugs me, so I can see how those of you with larger breasts end up needing women's clothes.  I wonder how it must look for other people if I stand there, with strained buttons up top, but lower down is decently loose (happens if my arms are not either in front, or hanging by my sides).

And speaking of stripes, how would you rate the severity of horizontal/vertical stripes?  Some of my shirts do have vertical stripes (as you all know, it's not so uncommon for us), but I've found printed letters on a tshirt to be problematic.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 20, 2019, 10:46:24 AM
As I said earlier, I'm not currently really putting effort into hiding them.  But at the same time I'm not flaunting them.  So far it was just business as usual.
Meant to edit my post, but it seems I ended up quoting.  Editing out the duplicate part.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on August 20, 2019, 11:47:55 AM
And speaking of stripes, how would you rate the severity of horizontal/vertical stripes?  Some of my shirts do have vertical stripes (as you all know, it's not so uncommon for us), but I've found printed letters on a tshirt to be problematic.
Personally I avoid them completely. The vertical stripes will come down the front and will outline the bust. Horizontals will emphasis the size, which is why women will wear horizontal stripes to give the appearance of a larger bust, while vertical stripes shows volume, like in women's hips and they will not wear them. If they wear vertical stripes, usually it is small small woman to give them some apparent size or oversized with a vest or jacket so they don't look "fat". It's the color difference between the stripes that draw attention to the stripes and to the chest in the process. If I were a woman and wanted to draw attention to my chest, I would probably live in stripes. But I don't need ANY look to make me look larger in the chest. I am big enough! I think it is a personal choice and is something that you need to try and see what it looks like and whether it works for you. That is why patterns and dark solids are recommended as a base since the eye has a hard time discerning what the true shape and size is. If you can get away with a rugby shirt, more power to you. I can't can't. This shirt would make a flat guys chest look large!
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Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 20, 2019, 12:29:03 PM
I take it then that checkered shirts are also best avoided...
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on August 20, 2019, 12:50:04 PM
I take it then that checkered shirts are also best avoided...
Depends on how tight the pattern is. Again, trial and error. If the pattern confuses the eyes, then it is a good pattern.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 20, 2019, 01:42:59 PM
I'm mainly referring to the ones that have larger squares.  As that's pretty much a staple for me.

But I suppose I should try some different styles that I already have, and pay attention to how each style affects my appearance.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 23, 2019, 08:51:43 AM
I just had a quick look.  According to the online chart of a South African clothing store, I should be a small 36B (79/94cm).  I didn't take the other measurements.  Of course I also don't know just how tight "tight" means.  Currently 69kg (I was suprised, considering Monday the scale showed 71).
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on August 23, 2019, 10:00:27 AM
Tight has always meant to me to mean no matter what direction I move or position my arms are in the band doesn't move. It's just short of starting to hurt. You are aware of its presence with a pressure around your ribcage but it shouldn't hurt or undue cut into the skin. It will leave a mark on your skin but shouldn't be angry in appearance and fade within an hour or so. Remember, the band takes 80 to 90 percent of the support so it has to anchor on the ribcage  and stay there. You need to be able to drop the straps and still feel the support on your breasts. If not, the band probably isn't tight enough. You do get used to the pressure and you soon you forget it is even there. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 23, 2019, 10:55:03 AM
I agree with John. That's why I will fluctuate between a 36 and 38 band depending on the material. You also have to consider sister sizing when you change band sizes. A 38G has the same cup volume as a 36H in the same.bra. 

The bra straps are basically there to keep the cup in position. I have a couple of strapless bras that stay in place just fine.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 23, 2019, 01:41:58 PM
Definitely not 38 then.  I could tighten to 78cm (barely 36), but I figured that's probably too tight.  79 was still what I'd consider tight.

As for whether or not to start wearing, I suppose I'll see once I'm at my target weight (unless I re-evaulate and stop early of course).  But going by recent experience (went down to 66kg), I'll drop to a 34 band.  I don't think I'll drop to under 73cm.

And in case somebody wonders about my already seemingly low weight, I naturally have very little muscle mass.  Lean for me is borderline underweight considering my height.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 24, 2019, 09:42:52 AM
At a 34 band, you'll be in Victoria secret size range. While they have some good bras. Be careful shopping there. While they welcome male customers,  they have a reputation for getting you in as many bras as possible, whether they fit properly or not..

You may want to look into shopping at a locally owned boutique that specializes in bra fitting.. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 24, 2019, 11:05:22 AM
I've never seen one of those shops here.  So I don't think they have a presence here in ZA anyway.

I do know of a small by-appointment place, but I don't know their policy about men (or rather fitting men, they do welcome men buying for their partners), and I don't really know what they sell (apart from the kind of stuff I'm not looking for).  They do advertise about having something for every size/shape, but it won't help if they only sell bedroom-oriented items.  Apart from that, it's basically a matter of going to a mall and visiting some large places.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 24, 2019, 12:33:58 PM
Torrid and Lane Bryant are more than happy to help us get support that we need as well.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 24, 2019, 01:42:45 PM
I've never even heard of them before starting to read posts here.

By the way.  I assume (this is all of course assuming that I do end up wearing a bra) that when cycling I'll just have to go braless?  Considering how tight cycling clothes are.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 24, 2019, 04:06:09 PM
I'm not huge into cycling but, I  would also assume that women support their breasts when cycling. 

I do a lot of swimming and I wear a womans tankini.  To me, its only clothing. Male, female, it doesn't matter to me. I just want something that fits and works with my curves. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 24, 2019, 04:10:56 PM
Large breasted women and some men including myself wear women's Tunics.  They accommodate and down play the girls. They also down play my hips and butt. They are light and flowy and very comfortable. There are several different styles  from long sleeves and short sleeved and 3/4 sleeved, 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 25, 2019, 02:35:03 AM
Well, at least I don't see much of a problem with cycling clothes, except of course how it will show what I have.  And of course I'm a bit smaller than you in the breast department, so it's easier to get away without a bra.  As I said, the main issue is discomfort caused by my shirts, followed by long term consideration (future sagging, although it's less of a problem with small-ish breasts).


Regarding bra styles, I assume strapless will be better out of a hiding standpoint?
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 25, 2019, 05:50:09 AM
You will want to stay away from a strapless bra unless you're wearing a top or.a dress that requires you to wear one (anything that is "off the shoulders "). You will end up having to adjust it several times a day depending on how much you move.

If you're looking for a stealthy bra, I would suggest a racer back, front close, underwire. The underwire will be able to do more work with less material. The racerback design will give you the smoothest appearance with no hardware across your back. Generally speaking,  you should be fine wearing  it with just a tshirt. I would suggest that you start with both a black and skin tone bra. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 25, 2019, 07:37:09 AM
Makes sense, thanks.

Why do you suggest black?  As I understand it has a tendency to show?
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 25, 2019, 01:11:23 PM
You'll want a black bra for any black or dark color top. White bras are very easy to detect but are still your best option with a with blouse.  A layering camo is also a good idea to wear over your bra in most cases. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 25, 2019, 01:15:06 PM
How important will it be with men's shirts?
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on August 25, 2019, 05:25:45 PM
I think that a cami is a must with any button down. I didn't used to until I was asked about it at a fitting  and the girl suggested that I try one. They are soft and comfortable and they hide the tell tale bra silhouette. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 26, 2019, 02:27:36 PM
This might get expensive, considering that wearing bras will mean having to be extremely picky, and from what I'm told here also having to add some other stuff.

It seems that instead of hoping to afford one per month, I might as well hope to afford one every second month...
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 26, 2019, 03:37:06 PM
I'll have to wait and see what I end up with.  I'm guessing it'll be 34B or C.  It just depends how much I lose up there.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: felix on August 26, 2019, 06:29:30 PM
JohannK: If you wear tight cycling clothes, I assume you are a road biker.  I mountain bike and even with my B size boobs, a bra is mandatory for comfort.  The first time I borrowed my wife's bra and went for a ride, it felt so good I was hitting bumps on purpose.  I need to lose about 20 lb so I don't wear tight clothes because it makes me look like an old fat guy, which I am.  I ride wearing baggy shorts and a loose T shirt with a pullover leisure bra, which is basically a light duty sport bra with no hardware.  I have caught a few women staring at my chest but I think it is the boobs they see and not the bra.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on August 27, 2019, 03:37:21 AM
Your assumption was correct.  Road all the way.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: paulpark21 on September 02, 2019, 12:03:55 PM
I wear a tank top under a shirt.  It pretty much hides any bra straps.  Go with a shirt that is one or two sizes larger that what you usually wear.

How important will it be with men's shirts?
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on September 02, 2019, 12:44:39 PM
I am a 34B cup and the bra is quite apparent with the cups in some of my bras. All are unpadded and some are more concealed than others in regard to discretion. I do not wear overly sized t shirts, or patterns or pockets. My t shirts are standard size Large t shirts and fit me as they always have before my boobs became honest boobs. I find a tank top does allow slight compression over the bra to give the chest itself a bit more modesty and bras like mine with strap adjusters on the front completely disguise the straps themselves. I feel the back hooks don't really do any showcasing and it is always the adjuster clips that give the ah ha that is a bra look. And a guys shirt isn't as form fitting or as thin material as a womans shirt so the band isn't prone to be shown where it is typically when you see where a womans bra band is.

All in all, unless you are quite busty like C-D-E cup I think you will be just fine, being as you are and dressing as you always have. Unless I wear a total form fitting shirt, you are not noticing my b cups. If I do wear a form fitting shirt I wear a barelythere comfort bra that is shaped and fits like a tank top and gives me compression and comfort without squishing things uncomfortably and no one is the wiser. Even went to my chiropractor in them and they run there hands down my spine finding hot spots to pop and never did I ever think she ever felt the band of the bra on the comfort bras. I think it is absolutely true that no one is looking for a man in a bra. We are cause we have boobs and most wear bras and we either want to see other men in them for solace and security that we are not alone, or just in simple observation. But I don't think one needs to worry too much about wearing a typical t shirt outside of the color of it. My t shirt bras, and bralettes are not padded, not frilly or lacy, not push up or anything that directs attn to them or gives more accentuation. They are neutral colors, and fit snug as I think is a sign of more growth, but give great support and comfort and discretion.

If you look at men in general you will see from side angles (which is what I think is the most attention giving angle) that many's chest sticks out a bit. Not anything like ours usually, but nonetheless when you take in to account how our arms sit on the side and move back and forth and as much as we move ourselves and if we are sitting we aren't jutting our chests out, and a lot of our general postures are not chest out shoulders back, they are general male postures. When you take in to account ALL of our factors in regard to posture, position, who is really looking for our bras, etc you should find a lot of calming over the fact that there is just too much going on for people to really notice, and if they do notice they probably aren't thinking AH HA BRA BOY!!!!!! they are probably just thinking hmmm dude has some boobs...and then goes back to looking at their phone or forgets about it in general a minute later.

We live in a super attention deficit era. Where people of all ages are consumed by everything in front of them and that alone tells me unless I'm wearing a low cut push up bra or wearing a tank top with straps showing on the side, or walking around with my chest out shoulders back, then no one in their life is going to know I'm wearing a bra, unless they rub my back and feel the band, which is something I have total control over and my wife is the only one who rubs my back lol so I just make sure I don't wear a bra around her and I am good to go..
Let's see.  You said the back closing hooks don't really matter so much.  That's certainly good news.  I did some searching online, and only found two front-closing racerback bras at one shop, both in fancy colours and with not-so-smooth designs at the front.  Also, money is a very important factor.  Unlike some who can spend $100+ on a bra, I'm looking at maybe around R300 (it's roughly R15 for a US dollar) every few months.  If I'm careful, that is.  So having more to choose from will help bring cost down.  I've also wondered, since multiway bras can be worn strapless, does that mean the straps can be reversed to have the adjusters in a more suitable place?
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on September 02, 2019, 01:46:40 PM
I am a 34B cup and the bra is quite apparent with the cups in some of my bras. All are unpadded and some are more concealed than others in regard to discretion. I do not wear overly sized t shirts, or patterns or pockets. My t shirts are standard size Large t shirts and fit me as they always have before my boobs became honest boobs. I find a tank top does allow slight compression over the bra to give the chest itself a bit more modesty and bras like mine with strap adjusters on the front completely disguise the straps themselves. I feel the back hooks don't really do any showcasing and it is always the adjuster clips that give the ah ha that is a bra look. And a guys shirt isn't as form fitting or as thin material as a womans shirt so the band isn't prone to be shown where it is typically when you see where a womans bra band is.

All in all, unless you are quite busty like C-D-E cup I think you will be just fine, being as you are and dressing as you always have. Unless I wear a total form fitting shirt, you are not noticing my b cups. If I do wear a form fitting shirt I wear a barelythere comfort bra that is shaped and fits like a tank top and gives me compression and comfort without squishing things uncomfortably and no one is the wiser. Even went to my chiropractor in them and they run there hands down my spine finding hot spots to pop and never did I ever think she ever felt the band of the bra on the comfort bras. I think it is absolutely true that no one is looking for a man in a bra. We are cause we have boobs and most wear bras and we either want to see other men in them for solace and security that we are not alone, or just in simple observation. But I don't think one needs to worry too much about wearing a typical t shirt outside of the color of it. My t shirt bras, and bralettes are not padded, not frilly or lacy, not push up or anything that directs attn to them or gives more accentuation. They are neutral colors, and fit snug as I think is a sign of more growth, but give great support and comfort and discretion.

If you look at men in general you will see from side angles (which is what I think is the most attention giving angle) that many's chest sticks out a bit. Not anything like ours usually, but nonetheless when you take in to account how our arms sit on the side and move back and forth and as much as we move ourselves and if we are sitting we aren't jutting our chests out, and a lot of our general postures are not chest out shoulders back, they are general male postures. When you take in to account ALL of our factors in regard to posture, position, who is really looking for our bras, etc you should find a lot of calming over the fact that there is just too much going on for people to really notice, and if they do notice they probably aren't thinking AH HA BRA BOY!!!!!! they are probably just thinking hmmm dude has some boobs...and then goes back to looking at their phone or forgets about it in general a minute later.

We live in a super attention deficit era. Where people of all ages are consumed by everything in front of them and that alone tells me unless I'm wearing a low cut push up bra or wearing a tank top with straps showing on the side, or walking around with my chest out shoulders back, then no one in their life is going to know I'm wearing a bra, unless they rub my back and feel the band, which is something I have total control over and my wife is the only one who rubs my back lol so I just make sure I don't wear a bra around her and I am good to go..
Let's see.  You said the back closing hooks don't really matter so much.  That's certainly good news.  I did some searching online, and only found two front-closing racerback bras at one shop, both in fancy colours and with not-so-smooth designs at the front.  Also, money is a very important factor.  Unlike some who can spend $100+ on a bra, I'm looking at maybe around R300 (it's roughly R15 for a US dollar) every few months.  If I'm careful, that is.  So having more to choose from will help bring cost down.  I've also wondered, since multiway bras can be worn strapless, does that mean the straps can be reversed to have the adjusters in a more suitable place?
Great question about multiway bras. The answer is yes and no. I have a Freya Deco multiway/ strapless bra that has straps that can be easily reversed, removed, or crossed in a racerback style. I also have a few bras that can be connected via a "j" hook to convert to a racer back however they are not removable what so ever. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on September 02, 2019, 05:04:34 PM
I was basically thinking of starting with a 2-pack for up to R300 (maybe up to R350, but I can't go higher).  And as I said, that's every second month at the most.

Also, it seems getting exercise will be harder than I expected.  I can ride my bicycle, but it takes its toll on my arms.  So I'm starting to wonder if I'll have to approach the weight loss much more gradually than I planned (I'm back to where I started).  So I might just end up getting fitted before I go down to a 34 band.


For those who might wonder (mainly targeted at those who don't understand the idea of acceptance), there are worse things in life than having a bit extra tissue on the chest.  Pain disorders are not fun.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: hammer on September 02, 2019, 06:33:30 PM
I wear a tank top under a shirt.  It pretty much hides any bra straps.  Go with a shirt that is one or two sizes larger that what you usually wear.

How important will it be with men's shirts?
All I wear is men's clothes 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on November 01, 2019, 05:19:54 PM
I had a look at the calculator at ABraThatFits, and it gave some really weird numbers.

My measurements were:
Loose underbust 82
Snug underbust 78
Tight Underbust 75
Standing Bust 94
Leaning Bust 98
Lying Bust 95.

And according to this site I should start with 32DD(UK).  I mean, really?!  The tightest I could get the tape was 75cm, and 32 is below 72cm!  Going by sister size, I also doubt that I could qualify as 34D/36C.

Anyway, I've come to the conclusion that I should at least try wearing.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on November 01, 2019, 07:27:10 PM
I had a look at the calculator at ABraThatFits, and it gave some really weird numbers.

My measurements were:
Loose underbust 82
Snug underbust 78
Tight Underbust 75
Standing Bust 94
Leaning Bust 98
Lying Bust 95.

And according to this site I should start with 32DD(UK).  I mean, really?!  The tightest I could get the tape was 75cm, and 32 is below 72cm!  Going by sister size, I also doubt that I could qualify as 34D/36C.

Anyway, I've come to the conclusion that I should at least try wearing.
UK sizing is in inches, not cm. I think that is where you are getting confused. 32DD sounds like it might be close. European Standard equivalent would be 70E.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on November 02, 2019, 03:14:34 AM
I entered the measurements in cm, and selected the units a such.  Keep in mind, a 32 band is 68-72cm.  Way below even the tightest I could manage.  Going by the snug underbust, that would (barely) put me in a 36 band (78-82).  But I have a feeling that 34 might be better.  The cup going by only a single measurement would barely be a B(36) or D(34).

That said, I have wondered if I somehow messed up the leaning and lying measurements, since with those I didn't check the tape in a mirror.  I'll see if I can redo those at some point in the day.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: DW20 on November 20, 2019, 10:41:52 AM
My advice is to wear what is comfortable - unfortunately that is not usually compatible with being covert.
My own personal experience is that underwired bras with a reasonable amount of padding give the most comfort. Also lace designs seem to be better than most and are cooler in most circumstances .
I do not set out with the intention of appearing feminine, but within reason it is a price well worth paying for comfort.
We are all different, but personally wearing loose tops, and unflattering styles etc will do nothing to help your self esteem.
I have only ever been aware of being watched once and that was probably because I was wearing a skirt during a heatwave - Nothing to do with the bra!!:)

Glean ideas. This Forum is an awesome resource but ultimately the solutions have to be yours. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on November 20, 2019, 01:05:38 PM
DW20 you are so right. Very few of us want to be anything other than what we are and for the majority we want to be physically comfortable and have confidence in our bodies and our appearance. And if that means wearing a bra for sizable breasts, and clothes that fit our shape no matter what it is, then why should society care? 

I can't deny that the estrogen that my body makes hasn't effected other parts of my body and maybe even how I react or feel, but I had no control over that. I am male and if my body is better suited for clothing that is normally considered "female", that's not my fault. No one asked me what I wanted. I have to live with what I have. I just want to live my life in peace no matter what I am wearing, masculine or feminine. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on November 20, 2019, 01:24:13 PM
I can certainly see what you're saying (replying to both posts).

The thing that keeps bugging me of course is my size being somewhere in between.  I'm large enough that I can certainly have cleavage if I go that route (maybe not pressed against each other but I can still have cleavage), but small/shallow enough that many people (at least men) will likely not take note of what's going on under my shirts (braless, a bra would increase protrusion).  That second part will make it harder to justify wearing.

And of course there's the money issue.  Whenever I decide to go bra shopping, something comes up and empties my account.  Then I have to save all over.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Bridge on November 20, 2019, 05:24:23 PM
  I started wearing only in the last two weeks.  That being said today I wore a, nice slightly padded underwire, all day under my sweatshirt to work.
I've slowed down but not retired and worked in a costumers house today.  It felt so good as everything was contained.  I was aware of the bra but know I felt better.  I have to say that I feel I looked better than I did without.  Working and talking to them I just went on as usual.  I have to say it felt good.  I think my chest does have a nicer shape wearing and is not as noticeable.   I have also found the ride to work is better with road bumps and the seat belt squash felt so much better.  The relief from cooler weather was a benefit in the comfort of the breast and head light issues.  I'm still learning and Know If I did get a proper fitting it would be the best but for now this is amazing.  I have gained confidence from reading the post here.  And feel better for it.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: prc7966 on November 20, 2019, 05:36:55 PM
I've been wearing a bra every day (with a few exceptions) since March and I agree that my chest looks better (to me at least) with the bra than without. I typically wear a glamorise back clasp sports bra for work and I have yet to receive any comments or looks to suggest that anybody notices anything under my shirt. I know the hardware shows through my shirt when I bend down to work but nobody seems to have noticed. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Bridge on November 20, 2019, 05:59:23 PM
I know I was very self aware of the issue and felt everyone would notice.  But did they?  perhaps it is in our mind.  Is everyone so wrapped up in other things that they aren't looking?  Could be.  I'm gaining confidence... starting to go for comfort.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: prc7966 on November 20, 2019, 06:54:16 PM
I started with pullover sports bras for the invisibility factor but soon found that all the ones I'd wasted money on had some sort of fatal flaw for me either by overcompressing me or the racerback pulling in my neck or the low impact ones being closer to zero impact. I tried the rear hook ones and fell in love with the support they offered me without hurting me. I've branched out from the glamorise sports bras (1166 is the number if you're interested) and i wear a normal bra a good deal of the time too. In fact I had a few Bali bras I wore every day work and home but they stretched out very prematurely.  Have yet to receive a comment from the people who aren't my wife. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Bridge on November 20, 2019, 07:03:24 PM
 I too have tried a pull over and I just can't do it with the shoulder issues I have.  an they just aren't that supportive for any type of activity.  I in turn have found the back hook underwire to be just fine and is working well.  I'm still new to this but am embracing it and finding comfort as a result.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: prc7966 on November 20, 2019, 07:06:07 PM
I got my first underwire the other day and I'm loving the fit so far. Haven't worn it to work yet, maybe this week sometime. Lots of bending and twisting at work so I'm not sure how that would go.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Bridge on November 20, 2019, 07:10:08 PM
Today was my first day.  I felt good, a bit of self-conciousness  but it went well.  I did feel better. In the end I know no one ever noticed.
I think I even looked better.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Bridge on November 20, 2019, 07:13:02 PM
I got my first underwire the other day and I'm loving the fit so far. Haven't worn it to work yet, maybe this week sometime. Lots of bending and twisting at work so I'm not sure how that would go.
From your pic. I can see you look good wearing and can only think it feels better.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: prc7966 on November 20, 2019, 07:20:24 PM
It feels like a good fit to me, even though there's some slippage after normal activity it still supports well with a small Gap in the upper cup. The bra in my pic is the Dominique mystique minimizer that gyneco_jason posted on the acceptance garments part of the forum. I feel like my boobs are more obvious without a bra. I get the bra gives them shape and not necessarily a masculine one, but without they bounce a move all over the place and eventually start to hurt a good deal. Not to mention catching a good bump in the road in my stuff riding old truck. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Bridge on November 20, 2019, 07:28:06 PM
  Same for me.  I have and do feel better wearing and like the shape provided but need to build up the confidence more.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on November 20, 2019, 08:17:26 PM
I too believe I look better in a bra. A bra gives me a better looking shape that is easy to hide if I want to or to show off, if I want to. Wearing a bra has given me more control how the girls look and act. That is a control I have never had over them before and that has really been a huge plus since I control what they look like. Having a better physical and emotional feeling does really translate into more confidence and better self esteem.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: aboywithgirls on November 21, 2019, 11:35:02 AM
Couldn't agree more! Shape and support is what a good bra is all about. We are very fortunate to have so many great options of bras to choose from compared to the styles and materials that were available 30 years ago.Even at a 38H, i can still find a bra that's beautiful and functional. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Bridge on November 21, 2019, 04:11:32 PM
I'm still new to this but am finding this to be true. 
I have been liking the support and comfort I have felt this last while.  In time a proper fitted and better bra might prove to be the best thing.
For now I have felt relief, comfort and confidence.  One more thing I have noticed is that I think my overall appearance is better also.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on November 21, 2019, 04:22:37 PM
The biggest surprise to me after I started wearing a bra was how much more confidence I had in my appearance. For the first time I was not so afraid if my chest was feminine looking. I just didn't care it seemed. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Bridge on November 21, 2019, 04:26:29 PM
It has been a couple of weeks for me of wearing but I can say that the bra wearing has made my chest look even.  That alone has given me confidence.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Bridge on November 21, 2019, 05:03:17 PM
Here we go!  I'm siting in my office and a subcontractor came in.  I never gave it a thought that I was wearing a bra and took the meeting.
nothing said and or eyes popping.  After he left did I realize what happened.  I was wearing and felt confident and nothing happened. 
Gaining confidence.  
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: prc7966 on November 21, 2019, 06:38:46 PM
I would go so far as to say the vast majority of people won't notice. People tend not to notice things that they are not expecting to see. They likely aren't expecting to see a man wearing a bra so they likely aren't looking for the telltales. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: blad on November 21, 2019, 06:51:43 PM
Here we go!  I'm siting in my office and a subcontractor came in.  I never gave it a thought that I was wearing a bra and took the meeting.
nothing said and or eyes popping.  After he left did I realize what happened.  I was wearing and felt confident and nothing happened. 
Gaining confidence. 
After a while of everyday wear, you are not even thinking about your bra as you go about your daily tasks and social interactions. 

But by contrast, if for some reason you are not wearing your bra you are constantly aware of the lack of support.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JoeyR on November 29, 2019, 03:47:50 PM
To wear or not to wear is a big question for a lot of us. Wearing is definitely a journey and only you will know when and if you are ready.
I have been wearing bras at home for support and keeping shape for a long time, but am just recently adding the bra most of the time to my daily attire.
I wear when I am comfortable doing so. At other times I will wear a women's shelf tank under a button up shirt, and if I want to go stealth, I wear a beater. 
If you wear the beaters a size smaller than usual they give some support to the breasts. In any case, the beater of whatever size will help with the irritation to the nipples, and can pass the "laundry test".
I believe that compression shirts are harmful in that they flatten and damage the breast tissue and over time will give you super sagging breasts.

Joey
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: SideSet on January 10, 2020, 04:33:58 AM
If you have breasts like a woman, then you need to wear a bra like a woman does.  Underwire bras give the best support. Padded/lined/molded cup bras do the best job of keeping your nipples from showing through.  Because you have a bust like a woman’s, women’s tops will feel and look best on you. 

Once you start wearing a bra, and get past the insecurity  of wearing one, you will find yourself being more comfortable and confident in a bra.

As you get dressed, the question will not be will you put on a bra, but rather, which of your bras you want to wear today, given your day’s planned activity, top, and mood.

Once you start, you’ll be wearing a bra the rest of your life, just like all the other people, mostly women, with breasts.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: curiousk on January 10, 2020, 01:14:38 PM
I agree.  I came to grips that I needed a bra for support and comfort.    I’ve been wearing a bra for 5 weeks now and it’s the best decision I made and should have done it sooner.   I’m in the experimental phase of figuring out which bra to use for different occasions.    I actually like that part of it.    My breasts have been with me since being a teenager so I’ve accepted them and ready to support them.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on January 12, 2020, 12:22:43 PM
While I do take note of what you're saying, I'm still at a size/shape (34C according to the basic measurements, no sagging) where it's not so easy to justify.  That said, it will certainly be nice to not have nipple pain.  But as I think I said earlier, that's more of a problem in the winter (or around the fridges of a supermarket).

And of course the financial part doesn't make it easier.  I do have enough money to buy some bras now, but I also have a few extra expenses that I have to take into consideration.  So it's not that easy.  I probably should start wearing at some point though.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: OHboobs on January 12, 2020, 12:52:58 PM
While I do take note of what you're saying, I'm still at a size/shape (34C according to the basic measurements, no sagging) where it's not so easy to justify.  That said, it will certainly be nice to not have nipple pain.  But as I think I said earlier, that's more of a problem in the winter (or around the fridges of a supermarket).

And of course the financial part doesn't make it easier.  I do have enough money to buy some bras now, but I also have a few extra expenses that I have to take into consideration.  So it's not that easy.  I probably should start wearing at some point though.
Getting rid of the nipple pain alone is worth it imo.  I had it for quite a while.  It wasn't debilitating anything.  Just a constant annoyance.  Since putting on a bra last week, I've been freed of the pain and am loving it.  If I had known not having nipple pain could feel so good, I would've started wearing a bra years ago. I'm just wearing a $10 bali bra (103J) so if money is an issue, something like that could work for you.  We are rather different sizes (me being bigger band but smaller cup) so your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: SideSet on January 13, 2020, 10:50:06 AM
C cup is too big to be going around braless. Just ask any woman. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: JohannK on January 15, 2020, 05:53:02 AM
Ok.  So I contacted a small local place that works on an appointment basis.  They only have less suitable stuff (mostly bedroom-oriented), but aparrantly their supplier is working on a range that should help.  They'll contact me when they have info.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: SideSet on January 15, 2020, 07:00:40 AM
 So good you are beginning to take the actions you need to become a regular bra wearer.   I read one time that C cup is the average bra size for women. So, you are the same size as the average woman. And the average woman regularly wears a bra and accordingly has a needed collection of bras.  So, you should also. 
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: curiousk on January 15, 2020, 07:04:19 AM
Yes, bra shopping is expensive for sure. When I bought my first bras 5 weeks ago, I dropped about $160.   I shopped at a plus size, partly because of my size 44B and I wanted to fitted properly.    Hope find something less expensive and comfortable.
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: SideSet on January 15, 2020, 12:08:05 PM
 Your size is going to limit where are you can shop. discount retailers, like Ross and marshals, have some really nice bras at very good prices, if you are willing to put in the time to keep looking, but not often at your size, sorry   
Title: Re: To bra, or not to bra
Post by: Johndoe1 on January 15, 2020, 02:28:48 PM
Yes, bra shopping is expensive for sure. When I bought my first bras 5 weeks ago, I dropped about $160.  I shopped at a plus size, partly because of my size 44B and I wanted to fitted properly.    Hope find something less expensive and comfortable.
At my size I never seem to get out of bra shopping for less than $150. My joke is DD means double dollars! Now I am not buying the most expensive bras but I have bought cheep bras and for the money they aren't comfortable or last as long as more expensive bras so in the long run I spend as much if not more for the cheep ones than if I just paid the money the first time. I still wear several bras I bought 2 years ago. They are just about at the end of life, but I have at least 100 wears. And that's about average life expectancy for a well made bra holding up DDs. I pay between$50 and $80 dollars on average per bra. Since I usually wear my bras 15 to 18 hours a day, comfort beats price anytime. I own 14 bras including my sports bras.
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Post by: curiousk on January 15, 2020, 02:32:21 PM
You own 14 bras??   I have 4 and my wife questions why I need more than that.   She has 3.   
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Post by: Johndoe1 on January 15, 2020, 04:09:40 PM
Over time it adds up. I have been wearing bras for a few years now and I like to keep a good rotation going to get the most out of my bras because of the cost. I have 3 sports bras. Two high impact and one compression for light workouts at the gym. Like I said I have two that are about at end of life and I have already purchased replacements.
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Post by: aboywithgirls on January 17, 2020, 10:10:32 AM
I've been wearing bras for 30 years now. Over time, you find the advantages of having bras that are designed for certain activities as well as certain tops. I have 15 bras. I have molded cup, lace cup underwire bras for every day wear. I have a couple of sports bras for physical activity,  i also have a few leisure bras for sleeping and hanging around the house. 
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Post by: Bridge on January 17, 2020, 02:19:40 PM
I haven't been in the bra camp that long but can see how that is possible.  I look at it like shoes.  A friend looked at the shelf in my garage and said," Do you really need that many shoes?"  He didn't see in the house.  I had work boots, snow shoeing boots, tennis shoes, running shoes, hiking boots, one high top and one low based on the terrain and trails being hiked, water shoes and booties for paddling.  Dress shoes and......   Point is I can see different bra styles, colors and shaping for various activities and wardrobe.  I can go on with shirts. Dress, fishing, golf, tennis T's and the list goes on. 
Be comfortable, wear what and when you want is what I'm learning.
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Post by: SideSet on January 17, 2020, 03:24:08 PM
 If you have breasts, you need to wear a bra. If you need to wear a bra, you need a collection of bras. Bras that suit each activity, outfit, and mood 
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Post by: Athena12@ on January 20, 2020, 02:31:22 PM
I have been wearing a bras daily for about 6 or 7 years now and they are part of my morning routine and I have much more than I need.  I am just a bra junky. If I am in a store and see a bra I really like I will buy it if they have it in my size.  Luckily for me I am on the small side, A cup. The problem is trying them on.  I  have found bras in my size and tried them on and sometimes it wont even go around my chest or their version of cup size leaves me looking down at an almost empty cup.  As you may know my wife passed last April and I have been steadily clearing her clothes out and I found a very flirty/sheer bra the other day that said it was a 34C. For fun I tried it on and it fit like a dream.  I bought ii for her in England over 40 years ago. So it just goes to show you how things have changed. Lately, since my sever weight lose (26 pounds on a 5 foot 6 inch frame which was around a 15% of my original weight of 164).  My cup size has gone down from B to an A and so has my band size.  I can now wear a band of 34 with no problems instead of a 36.  So I have bras that fit me last year that I swim I them now.  I need to get rid of them but I just can't bring myself to do it.

Pardon my rambling, just an old man with plenty of time on his hands.
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Post by: SideSet on January 21, 2020, 03:37:35 AM
Thank you for sharing.  I think it safe to say many of us admire you. I know I do. I think it was wonderful you now wear the sheer bra you bought your wife so long ago, and it fits you like a glove. 

Also, wonderful putting on your bra is now second nature when you get dressed.