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Title: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Johndoe1 on May 18, 2019, 12:37:21 PM
Depending on my mood, and I suspect the bra as well even though I can wear the same bra a different time and do not have this "feeling", there are times I just feel the girls are "out there" meaning, I am more conscious of the weight in the cups and either actual or perceived, I can "feel" the shape of the individual breasts being supported off my chest. Not necessarily projection, but supported and contained. There are other times, I don't even notice the weight or the support pressure around my ribcage from the band. It is almost like the girls are no longer on my chest.

My guess is those who are not well endowed, you may not feel this, but those like hammer and ABWG might get this sensation since there is more tissue to support and therefore might wear their bras snugger to get a better foundation to support the tissue better. It could also be completely in my head.
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: hammer on May 18, 2019, 06:37:42 PM
Yep, I get it! I've lost another 10lbs or so and I've seeing something new now! My bras are to big! Not only in the band but in the cup too!

I am happy about this! I don't mind if my breast decrease in size, however I'm not about to go out and spend a ton of money on new bras at this point either. I have been just wearing genie magic bras and I do have one real good support one to that fits real well yet.

I'm now at a weight that I haven't seen for 30 years and it's an understatement to say that I'm very pleased! I hit 243 the other day! It has taking a hell of a long time, but I never want to see 333 again!
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Johndoe1 on May 18, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Hey! Great news! Congratulations! I know how that feels!

I am too the point that my stomach is decreasing but the girls are staying the same volume. I might have to size down in band, but the volume is the same and so I am having to go UP in cup to maintain the same cup size. That makes projection more obvious, but just today I went out in public in a shirt that fits me, but I made sure my bra wasn't accentuating too much and while you could see the girls, it didn't stand out and I only saw one person look a little longer than I thought they would, but nothing was said. That made me feel pretty good because I think the girls are looking pretty good at my reduced weight.
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Steven618 on May 19, 2019, 05:12:35 PM
Congratulations Hammer on getting the weight down and working toward a healthier tomorrow and hopeful longer tomorrows. 
I am small enough that I don't feel I need a bra at all times. At a b cup I feel I am on the brink of needing to cover up for modesty but still tone enough that it doesn't bounce around. Shirtless you can see how they have taken shape especially under the bust area. And if I don't wear a tank top under my day to day shirts you can see them pointing out quite obviously at this point. I wore just a white t shirt with designs on it (graphic tee as they call it) form fitting as my shirts tend to be and didn't think twice when leaving the house. But realized after I had gotten out of my car at the store I forgot to put an undershirt on. I noticed in the reflection of my car window when getting out that they were pointing out pretty bad. But as many say, to us is massive to others is minor. So I went about shopping as if nothing is to be noticed hoping it would cause no one to notice. At 5'11'' and 178lbs now as I'm losing weight myself, things get pretty noticeable on my frame and breasts that don't seem to care to decrease in size. I noticed when I got home after a successful time out that no one seemed to stare, but man, my chest was sore and not in a painful way just an annoying tension kind of feeling. I didn't think tank tops did much in support, it's not a cami or built in bra garment but maybe they do more than I suspected. 

However, I went out for early dinner later that day in same shirt to a bar I frequent at for their food and someone I know who works there noticed and poked my chest thinking it was pecs and ended up going "dang steve, you need to do some pushups your chest is soft as mine" luckily she poked and didnt grab or she would have had a handful of tissue lol 
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: TheDane on May 20, 2019, 12:43:54 PM
Yes very much out there feeling.  Since my body produces 296 pg/mL of estrogen (normal pg/mL are much much lower) , things are definitely out there.  The only thing I can say that hasn't changed is my measurement around my rib cage and that works for me but everything else keeps getting larger. All of my body fat is distributing where a females fat stores are at, its disheartening and depressing not many of my "I'm a guy hear me roar" clothes fit any longer.:'(  I used to wear tactical pants and shorts. I'm 216lbs 6'4" now, I was 6'2" before I went thru 3 years of posture correction.

The chiseled body I had as a teenager and young adult after leaving the Nat'l Guard is long gone, recent bout with testicular cancer and losing one of the dudes has been a major set back. At least I can shave my face every day now, I was worried that after a week of no growth that things were bad. I have hated shaving my face my entire life, until now. IDC if body hair ever comes back.

I have noticed more sensitivity in the nipple and breast tissue and its driving me crazy. I lift a 4x8 sheet of plywood and brush my chest with it and that causes so much undesirable sensations. Find myself looking for something to put between my skin and the cup even padded cups aren't enough I was thinking silicone something.

I hate shopping for bras, sometimes the women while helpful say things like this will shape and lift. Uh support and squish 38C I'm not trying to show these off.::)
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Johndoe1 on May 20, 2019, 01:18:49 PM
For reasons that are not clear to me, I find I get the most comfort when I am wearing a bra that has really good lift which means a rounded shape. A good swoop and scoop and, hello. That use to bother me, but over time I have come to the conclusion that I would rather be comfortable and contained over appearance. As a DD/DDD, hiding is a game that I can only tie at best. So I would rather be comfortable than squished, which is not very comfortable at all and I don't wish on my worst enemy. Well maybe my arch nemesis. 
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Steven618 on May 20, 2019, 06:35:46 PM
38C and DD/DDD?! Sheesh! I cannot even begin to fathom how that would be like. I am a small b cup and I agree with John myself. I cannot explain why, but when I wear a bra, I find much relief and satisfaction in a bend over, scoop, swoop, release. I then tend to stand straight up and do the same just in case any moved around when I stood up. I don't wear a bra out and about all the time, often only if I am going to be going out for quite awhile and will be doing a lot of moving, such as walking through stores, going on a hike, etc. Especially a hike. But even on a hike I wear an underwire bra cause of the stature of posture when hiking I doubt anyone can tell the round shape it would regularly give if walking upright and normally. I still don't wear a bra if I'm around my wife, I personally hate it and feel gross at the idea of wearing one around her based on how she would feel and it makes me feel more of a perv than anything cause I am a small b cup not a C or DD like ya'll or even an H. But there is no better feeling in regard to personal comfort these days than the security of a comfortable bra. So for those in a bra who feel out there, would you rather be out there with  your breasts bouncing and shaking all over the place, or out there with the roundness and lift of a bra that is obviously being worn? Which one is more upsetting in feeling out there? Does a bra not make you feel good cause it is a bra and people put a stigma to a man in one, vs a man with large breasts just hanging? I notice 38C and others who are fairly in good health and shape, with sizable breasts, vs the usual image one may think of a larger man with a stomach to hide behind. Has being a 38C or DD with a frame that is fairly fit been a hassle in having larger breasts?
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Johndoe1 on May 20, 2019, 09:57:02 PM
38C and DD/DDD?! Sheesh! I cannot even begin to fathom how that would be like. I am a small b cup and I agree with John myself. I cannot explain why, but when I wear a bra, I find much relief and satisfaction in a bend over, scoop, swoop, release.
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I notice 38C and others who are fairly in good health and shape, with sizable breasts, vs the usual image one may think of a larger man with a stomach to hide behind. Has being a 38C or DD with a frame that is fairly fit been a hassle in having larger breasts?
When I first started wearing a bra I had no real idea what I was doing. I had no idea how snug the band needed to be or how the cups should fit or the proper way to put on a bra. I measured myself as best I could using what information I gleaned from Google and thought that was good enough. At that point I was willing to put up with poor fitting bras and wearing discomfort in general because to not have what little support I was getting was less painful than the years I had already endured of bouncing and jiggling free style. I began wearing a bra everyday and still do. Back pain and the pain of tissue moving around on one's chest will cause you to do things you swore you would never do. But even after a while, that got old. I could see why women complained about their bras all the time. The bra was starting to be a prison of torture for my boobs, not something to solve problems.

I finally found some real information that I could use at a bra boutique website and realized I was in the wrong size bra and I was getting minimal support. I realized my band was too large and my cups were too small, classic bra fitting issues and I had no idea what my true size was. But Walmart only goes up to D cups in larger bands and I didn't think I was any bigger than a C. I Finally got the courage up and found a local bra fitter. I was scared to death to even set up an appointment, but again, discomfort is a great motivator and I did. From that visit, I found out what a bra was suppose to feel like when it was doing its job. And my old bras hadn't been. I went from wearing a 42C full coverage to a 38DD plunge. I finally knew what my true size and shape was. The feeling of support and containment was instantaneous. It felt wonderful! While the band was considerably tighter than what I had been wearing, indenting my skin, it was actually more comfortable now that the rib cage was supporting the weight and the fat was acting as padding and not all the weight on my shoulders. The girls were lifted, supported, contained AND I WAS COMFORTABLE and for the first time, I liked what I saw. With the style of bra, I looked natural, not like I had forms in my bra cups. And that translated to confidence in my appearance I hadn't had before. With the proper shirt or top, that doesn't draw attention to my chest, and that is the key, while you may see some projection, it doesn't look out of place and 99% of people never even give me a second glance now. And I am no fashionista, that is for sure.

I don't wear a minimizer bra very often, but like any woman, you have to wear the right bra for the right top and the inch or inch and half that a minimizer can take off can make all the difference in appearance with some tops. It took a little time to figure out what works and what doesn't, but eventually you get a look that works. Women have been using this trick forever. It works for men as well.

But there are some days, just the way the underwire will hook behind the breast tissue after a swoop and scoop, you feel "out there" more. And it isn't a bad sensation either. You are just more aware of the support and containment. Or at least I do.
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: hammer on May 21, 2019, 07:37:21 AM
Thank you John and Steven


I too found that the right fitting bra made a world of difference! At the end of the day when you get ready for bed and it's time to take off the bra and your not sure you don't even want to says something!

I have bras that are minimizes and are extremely comfortable too! But as I've said everything is getting to big on me now but I still feel better with something on then without. Amazingly the magic gini bra is working just fine for the activity that I'm doing!

Unlike THEDANE who has gain a couple of inches in his height, after going through back surgeries and ageing I have lost some of mine, along with memory and others senior moments stuff lol!
I'm sure others can understand!

As for my weight loss, I sometimes have a hard time seeing it as it has taken me so long to lose it.  The one place that I can see it is in my chair.  I have a zero gravity lift chair that was custom fit for me and if those of you that are close to my age or you younger guys have ever Rowan Martin's "Laugh In", I feel like the part where " Lily Tomlin" would be on the oversized rocking chair doing her little skits.
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: aboywithgirls on May 21, 2019, 08:24:52 AM
As far as being "out there ", I know that proportionality, my girls are larger than most women. My latest bra is an Elomi Matilda. It's a UK 38G which is a US 38I. However it's a mesh lace underwire. I don't feel as projected as some of my molded cups. It is very supportive and I feel not as heavy in the chest. 

Like John said, like women,  I wear different bras for different reasons and different tops. You have to have the right bra for your shape and you have to have the right top for the shape. Wearing an underwire is how I achieve this. Most of my button down tops are women's because they fit me better. I can wear my bra and be comfortable and wear a top....well,  let's call it what it is, a blouse and not have gapping across my chest that shows my bra and not wear something that's 3 sizes too big! I feel better not looking like I'm wearing a potato sack! If that means that my shirts, tops or blouses come from Torrid and Lane Bryant, so be it. We all know that mens shirts aren't made to fit boobs. I just want to look and feel my best.
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: aboywithgirls on May 23, 2019, 09:18:13 AM
I have found over the years that wearing a bra or having boobs is not the worst thing in the world.  Over half of the population deals with it. We are the chosen few that get to deal.with it as well.

Women have there own times I'm sure that they feel insecure about their chest.  It stands to reason that we will have those same feelings. 
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: SideSet on May 23, 2019, 07:35:22 PM
 I feel most comfortable and confident when I’m wearing a bra 
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: TheDane on May 24, 2019, 10:49:22 PM
I wasn't implying that I hate wearing support, just that I am at point in my life where I'm unhappy that things are going the way they are. Which I suspect everyone on here is too-just vocalizing it.

Initially I had Soma measure me at 40B I have yet to find a large supply of comfortable supportive bras in that size.  I recently tried Chantelle I really like their product it's comfortable and fits. But 40B is too loose in this brand. Sister size seemed to work.  I have a small frame but my height makes me look strange than most. At 216lbs I have a belly but my rack protrudes beyond it.

I bought 4 more Champion sports bras before I had travel to PA for a vacation. Glad I did, it's cold here and pokies would be really OUT. 

As Johndoe1 pointed out, I had no idea what I was doing either.  I'd be a liar if I said swoop and scoop wasn't part of my routine.
I haven't gone as far as to try wearing womens blouses for a better fit and less gapping
Images are left and right and this is with a medium support curvy champion.
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Johndoe1 on May 24, 2019, 11:10:53 PM
I'd be a liar if I said swoop and scoop wasn't part of my routine.
If you don't swoop and scoop, the bra doesn't fit right and you really aren't getting all the support you should have and after a few hours, with me at least, without S/C, the wires will start to poke in some hurtful places. A good S/C and that never happens and the girls are happy.
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: SideSet on May 25, 2019, 11:54:03 AM
Good advice!
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Steven618 on May 26, 2019, 11:59:06 AM
Too true i often laughed at women growing up talking swoop and scoop sounded so gimmicky but as my breasts have swollen and continued to fill i have found swoop and scoop is a mastered science lol not doing it leaves my chest feeling rabdomly fitted and awkward 
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Johndoe1 on May 26, 2019, 10:09:57 PM
It amazes me to hear women tell how they have never swooped and scooped! Many are wearing bras for decades before they ever start. Knowing that, I can see why women complain about their bras all the time. I would too if I had to put up with that all the time. The short time I didn't swoop and scoop was almost enough to get me to stop wearing a bra.
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Jlt83e on May 27, 2019, 06:21:41 AM

My weight goes up and down like a roller coaster ,it seems when I loose it my chest stays the same , 38c or d depending on type of bra , I have found that a 36d or 36dd makes projection alot less and have same support , I shouldn't say same support ,I noticed that the 36d and Dd seem to keep things under control alot better especially when mowing the lawn or out walking ,I suppose it make a difference what style of bra it is as well, my wife got me a champion sports bra that she thought would work well , that thing was designed as some sort of torture device I swear a roll of duct tape would have been a better option
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Johndoe1 on May 27, 2019, 10:22:59 AM
I have recently lost 100 pounds and I didn't lose much in the chest either. I lost a lot in the band! :D I can tell that I store fat in the same way as women do. Breasts and hips. Thankfully my hips are not as pronounced as women's, but the ratio of waist to hip is more than a mans but the waist reduction makes the girls more pronounced as the weight drops. That is something that I am getting used to. Coming to terms with my breasts was one thing, now I am having to come to terms that I will continue to have sizable breasts, something that historically has been true for me, but I never accepted it. Now I deal with it with bras and cuts of tops. So far, it has worked much better than the old wear whatever I wanted and then get the stares and comments. I may have projection, but at least it is clean and neat looking projection and not floppy, headlight, slutty look. I think if it looks like you are trying to be neat in appearance, the girls get either get a pass or not noticed at all. It is like a woman who is braless. You can spot her a mile off. A woman in the proper bra and top, she blends in. That is what I try and do, blend in. At 36DDD/38DD I ain't not going to be seen! :)
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: SideSet on May 27, 2019, 11:14:24 AM
JLT83E,  how nice of your wife to buy you a bra.  She obviously recognizes that you need to wear one.   How supportive is she?

 JohnDoe,  you have a shape like a woman and you have come to where you wear clothes that suit your shape.  That is admirable and appropriate 
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: aboywithgirls on May 27, 2019, 12:32:05 PM
I have gone down the same path as John. I usually wear a full coverage underwire bra. I just got fitted with a Prima Donna 38H. My biggest issue with clothing is that I'm 48" at my bust and 34 at my waist and 42" at my hips. Men's clothing does not fit my measurements, ever. There are places like Lane Bryant and Torrid that do sell clothing that I can wear right off the rack. I often wear cowboy boots and Torrid has  great boot cut jeans. Lane Bryant also has nice button down shirts (blouses) that have the appearance of a men's button down collared shirt but with more room at the bust.

Like John said, if you look neat and well dressed, people will not even give you a second look. 
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Jlt83e on May 27, 2019, 03:06:26 PM
JLT83E,  how nice of your wife to buy you a bra.  She obviously recognizes that you need to wear one.  How supportive is she?

Sideset,  my wife is very helpfull , kinda like a nice fitting bra,lol, her insight on bras is useful as the only thing I understood about a bra was getting hers off ,up until my chest decided grow.
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: aboywithgirls on May 27, 2019, 03:27:54 PM
My wife is extremely understanding. My boobs are larger than hers now. I'm in a 36H and she is in a 36F. She's the one who suggested that I wear molded cup bras in the cooler months to hide the nips and switch to lace cups in the summer to cut down on boob sweat. With lace cup bras, I have found that I am not so much "out there".
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: hammer on May 28, 2019, 06:59:48 AM
I have recently lost 100 pounds and I didn't lose much in the chest either. I lost a lot in the band! :D I can tell that I store fat in the same way as women do. Breasts and hips. Thankfully my hips are not as pronounced as women's, but the ratio of waist to hip is more than a mans but the waist reduction makes the girls more pronounced as the weight drops. That is something that I am getting used to. Coming to terms with my breasts was one thing, now I am having to come to terms that I will continue to have sizable breasts, something that historically has been true for me, but I never accepted it. Now I deal with it with bras and cuts of tops. So far, it has worked much better than the old wear whatever I wanted and then get the stares and comments. I may have projection, but at least it is clean and neat looking projection and not floppy, headlight, slutty look. I think if it looks like you are trying to be neat in appearance, the girls get either get a pass or not noticed at all. It is like a woman who is braless. You can spot her a mile off. A woman in the proper bra and top, she blends in. That is what I try and do, blend in. At 36DDD/38DD I ain't not going to be seen! :)
Congratulations John! How did you manage to do that?
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Johndoe1 on May 28, 2019, 07:06:01 AM
Not eating! :D 

Actually I was on a path of a heart attack and/or stroke. I have been overweight for years. I found it helped hide the girls back when I denied I even had them. After a really bad check up, I decided to go to a doctor supervised diet where I eat REAL food and not prepackage food and exercise. I had done Weight Watchers and all that other stuff, but I could never keep it off. Started out slow, but over the last 2 years have built up. It wasn't easy, but it has become a life style.
Title: Re: Do you ever feel "out there"?
Post by: Steven618 on May 28, 2019, 07:09:49 PM
That is absolutely imperative. To see it as a lifestyle. Diets are fine and fun for momentary discipline. But overall and longterm, it is a lifestyle change that appeases the health of ones self. I enjoy my pizza and cookies from time to time. And Lord knows I'm not the healthiest. And told my Dr a few weeks ago when I went to have a breast exam done as I've begun having every 6 months since last year. And he asked if my diet has been different. I say not really, I eat healthy but enjoy the junk from time to time but I workout daily so I burn it off. His response stuck with me when he said "You can clean your toilet and it will look good as new, but I guarantee your pipes are filthy. Just because you take care of the outside, doesn't mean your insides are the same" Made me think of another article I read in regard to 30 being the new 50 for colon cancers due to all the crap food people eat. And contrary to how you take care of your body, if you aren't taking care of your intake, then it doesn't really matter. 

Kudos on the lifestyle change and diet rerouting. To both you and Hammer. I hope your health continues on positive routes and you see good things coming. Both in breast and waist band reducing