Gynecomastia Forum, Doctor and Surgery Resources

International Forum => U.K. => Topic started by: Myers on April 25, 2013, 10:36:23 AM

Title: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on April 25, 2013, 10:36:23 AM
Hi, ive just joined these forums and was looking for advice. Im looking to get surgery to sort my gyno problem like most people on this forum. However I dont have enough money to do so yet. What steps did people take before surgery to get their hormone levels checked etc because when i finally get the surgery done i dont want it to return,
Thanks.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Donut on April 25, 2013, 05:55:52 PM
Welcome!

Good luck with saving up, I'm in same boat... £800 in the piggy bank so far  :)

As to it returning, if you chose a surgeon who removes the gland, it can't return... Actual fat can still return, but of course fat is easy to lose, just diet. Gland can only be lost via a sharp knife!
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: tpuk on April 25, 2013, 09:38:14 PM
My hormone levels are screwed mate ! I think I have the T levels of a 90 year old guy (like robbie williams - he has t shots every week).

You most likely have normal levels unless you have a specific reason why you shouldn't.

My surgeon was not concerned when I told him about my blood results/endo visits etc.

---That said - it does play on my mind but I am just gonna keep exercising & doing what I can - thats all I can do.

I did push for T replacement therapy at one point, but then decided against it for a number of reasons.

Get lipo & gland removal & its probably much less likely to return.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Bain-of-my-life on April 26, 2013, 03:54:30 AM
Just had my surgery yesterday with Dr. Karidis and I can't recommend him enough. The whole experience was fine and I am so happy I have got this done. Just tried on a T-shirt and I think I might be able to wear one for the first time in years this summer :) See my before and after pics below.

ht tp://s381.photobucket. com/user/UNITED_LEGENDS/library/?sort=3&page=1

Now it's time to lose my belly.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Myers on April 26, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
Welcome!

Good luck with saving up, I'm in same boat... £800 in the piggy bank so far  :)

As to it returning, if you chose a surgeon who removes the gland, it can't return... Actual fat can still return, but of course fat is easy to lose, just diet. Gland can only be lost via a sharp knife!

Cheers Donut, ive been keeping an eye on your thread, good luck with saving. Im considering getting the BMI card healthcare finance option because i want this gone sooner and just reading everyones threads on here has made me quite impatient aha.

My hormone levels are screwed mate ! I think I have the T levels of a 90 year old guy (like robbie williams - he has t shots every week).

You most likely have normal levels unless you have a specific reason why you shouldn't.

My surgeon was not concerned when I told him about my blood results/endo visits etc.

---That said - it does play on my mind but I am just gonna keep exercising & doing what I can - thats all I can do.

I did push for T replacement therapy at one point, but then decided against it for a number of reasons.

Get lipo & gland removal & its probably much less likely to return.

Thanks Tpuk, that sounds grim, have you had the surgery then? I'm a bit concerned because my brothers suffer from the same thing so we must have bad gyno genes :(. Gonna go to the doctors and see if i can get some tests done.

Just had my surgery yesterday with Dr. Karidis and I can't recommend him enough. The whole experience was fine and I am so happy I have got this done. Just tried on a T-shirt and I think I might be able to wear one for the first time in years this summer :) See my before and after pics below.

ht tp://s381.photobucket. com/user/UNITED_LEGENDS/library/?sort=3&page=1

Now it's time to lose my belly.

Cheers for the reply Bain of my life. I cant view the photo apparently but i cant wait till i can wear a tshirt, a bit gutted im gonna have to wait a while longer, i just want to be post op. Guess i have to be patient though. Im either going to go with Levick or Karidis like most people in the uk section.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: mike93 on April 26, 2013, 07:22:36 PM
You should definitely go with Levick or Karidis. It's better to spend more money and get the best results. I had my surgery with Levick 3 weeks ago and I'm so happy with the results at the moment. I thought before the surgery that I'd keep thinking about the £4000 and what I could have used it for but I haven't even thought about it once. Trust me, it's worth every last penny. I would have paid £10000 if I had to.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Donut on April 26, 2013, 08:24:29 PM
Unfortunately credit isn't an option for me... So it's piggy-bank stuffing all the way!
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Myers on April 27, 2013, 03:48:16 PM
You should definitely go with Levick or Karidis. It's better to spend more money and get the best results. I had my surgery with Levick 3 weeks ago and I'm so happy with the results at the moment. I thought before the surgery that I'd keep thinking about the £4000 and what I could have used it for but I haven't even thought about it once. Trust me, it's worth every last penny. I would have paid £10000 if I had to.

I completely agree with you, im happy to pay the 4,000 tbh. My parents were trying to get me to go through the NHS but I'd rather pay the money for a job done right, plus chances are slim that id even be able to get it done through the NHS.

Unfortunately credit isn't an option for me... So it's piggy-bank stuffing all the way!
That sucks, it'll be all the sweeter in the end though, when you have raised enough.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Bain-of-my-life on April 27, 2013, 04:39:30 PM
Yeah mate, I have only heard good things about Levick and Karidis although obviously I may be a bit bias because I had the surgery with Karidis. I think the most amazing thing is that you go from receiving the sedation to waking up in the recovery theater and boom, your chest is flat. I literally have no recollection of anything between these two rooms but in the space of 30-45 mins the condition that has been holding me back the last 10 years was gone :D
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: mike93 on April 27, 2013, 08:50:42 PM
You should definitely go with Levick or Karidis. It's better to spend more money and get the best results. I had my surgery with Levick 3 weeks ago and I'm so happy with the results at the moment. I thought before the surgery that I'd keep thinking about the £4000 and what I could have used it for but I haven't even thought about it once. Trust me, it's worth every last penny. I would have paid £10000 if I had to.

I completely agree with you, im happy to pay the 4,000 tbh. My parents were trying to get me to go through the NHS but I'd rather pay the money for a job done right, plus chances are slim that id even be able to get it done through the NHS.

Unfortunately credit isn't an option for me... So it's piggy-bank stuffing all the way!
That sucks, it'll be all the sweeter in the end though, when you have raised enough.

My dad tried to do the same with me. He told me to keep trying with the NHS but I went ahead and booked and did it privately anyway. My money, my choice I told him. I've only ever heard but stuff about the NHS gynecomastia surgeries. I'd rather not get butchered by them and get it done by someone who's going to do it properly.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Myers on April 28, 2013, 08:16:47 AM
Yeah mate, I have only heard good things about Levick and Karidis although obviously I may be a bit bias because I had the surgery with Karidis. I think the most amazing thing is that you go from receiving the sedation to waking up in the recovery theater and boom, your chest is flat. I literally have no recollection of anything between these two rooms but in the space of 30-45 mins the condition that has been holding me back the last 10 years was gone :D

I can't begin to imagine the relief and everything that goes with it. I've had some experience with GA though because I had my appendix out a couple of years ago and it was surreal being told to count to 10 then waking up like 6 hours later in the recovery room. I Just want to be in that position right now.

My dad tried to do the same with me. He told me to keep trying with the NHS but I went ahead and booked and did it privately anyway. My money, my choice I told him. I've only ever heard but stuff about the NHS gynecomastia surgeries. I'd rather not get butchered by them and get it done by someone who's going to do it properly.

Yeh, its not a decision that we make lightly either, i mean im not just about to throw away £4,000 on a whim or anything but i think they are beginning to understand that now.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: mike93 on April 28, 2013, 06:13:19 PM
The problem is nobody but ourselves know the affect gynocomastia has psychologically and it's impossible for anyone else to understand that. My dad has huge problems with his teeth and I persuaded him by asking him if he could afford to have his teeth replaced with dental implants would he and he then realized what it meant to me to have this situation dealt with. £4000 is a lot of money and you need to think very carefully before you go through with the surgery but if it bothers you that much, you have to do what you've got to do.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Donut on April 28, 2013, 06:20:48 PM
I wouldn't care if it was £40,000 as long as I had the £40,000 to get it done!!

You're a long time dead; as someone wise said...
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Myers on May 07, 2013, 12:09:58 PM
Right, started to get the ball rolling, got a doctors appointment next week so i can get my hormone levels etc taken just incase there was anything wrong. I want to get the op done asap but im going away on holiday at the end of june so im going to have to wait till after then to get a date booked in. Should i wait to get a consultation with Levick even though i dont have the money sorted yet or should i just go for it?
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: mike93 on May 07, 2013, 06:32:56 PM
Right, started to get the ball rolling, got a doctors appointment next week so i can get my hormone levels etc taken just incase there was anything wrong. I want to get the op done asap but im going away on holiday at the end of june so im going to have to wait till after then to get a date booked in. Should i wait to get a consultation with Levick even though i dont have the money sorted yet or should i just go for it?

Go for it, you don't need to commit on the day. I booked mine a week after consultation.
Title: Surgery 10/07/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on May 15, 2013, 05:07:13 AM
Just had my doctors appointment with the NHS where i was told "I dont think its gynecomastia I think they are nicely develepoed pecs" I meanaged to get him to send me for blood tests anyway and ive got them done now, il get the results on friday and hopefully they will show everything is normal so i can then go on to get the surgery with piece of mind.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: mike93 on May 15, 2013, 08:15:19 AM
Just had my doctors appointment with the NHS where i was told "I dont think its gynecomastia I think they are nicely develepoed pecs" I meanaged to get him to send me for blood tests anyway and ive got them done now, il get the results on friday and hopefully they will show everything is normal so i can then go on to get the surgery with piece of mind.

Typical NHS, they'll say and do anything to avoid spending money.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Myers on May 18, 2013, 06:01:31 PM
Got my consultation booked with Levick on the 28th of May, i was surprised i got it so soon tbh was expecting to have to wait at least a few more weeks after that so really pleased with that. It has begun.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: mart356 on May 18, 2013, 07:19:27 PM
Really really want to get this surgery done, I have quite a severe case and being a 19 year old lad at uni with it is so hard. Problem is I just dont have the balls to tell my mum/family, and I only just have enough money in my savings account. I know it would change my life and make me so much happier, just need to pluck up the courage now.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Myers on May 19, 2013, 04:11:40 AM
Its going to be hard, but i cant stress how important it is that you tell them. My parents understand what it means to me now and have been nothing but supportive. You just gotta take a deep breath and take the plunge. Try not to think about it, just come out with it. If you think too much on it youl scare yourself into not telling them.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Myers on May 31, 2013, 06:11:29 AM
Right, quick update. I had my consultation with Levick on tuesday and I was very impressed as i thought i would be. He basically talks you through the whole procedure and shows you pictures etc so you have a clue what to expect but nothing we havent seen on here already i guess. He said i wont have to have lypo which i think is a good thing from what ive read on here in regards to healing. Think ive pretty much got the finance sorted so im going to try and book it next week when im 100% sure i can pay and hopefully i can get booked in for early july which would be perfect.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: KSS24 on May 31, 2013, 10:44:20 AM
Right, quick update. I had my consultation with Levick on tuesday and I was very impressed as i thought i would be. He basically talks you through the whole procedure and shows you pictures etc so you have a clue what to expect but nothing we havent seen on here already i guess. He said i wont have to have lypo which i think is a good thing from what ive read on here in regards to healing. Think ive pretty much got the finance sorted so im going to try and book it next week when im 100% sure i can pay and hopefully i can get booked in for early july which would be perfect.

Good luck mate, I'm having my consultation with Karidis next Friday, 1 week today, I'm hoping to get it booked up ASAP after that, hopefully he can literally fit me in within 1-2weeks. Now I've got to the stage where I know I'm defo having it, I don't want to wait 1-2months... I've been patient enough throughout my entire teen years having it and just dealing with it. And it's my Birthday June 24th, so would be nice to have it done before that and be on the road to recovery during my Birthday, plus I'm sure it will start getting to them horrid high 20 degree days soon and I just wanna be free to wear my t-shirt without the vest by end of July/August.

Let us know when you get it booked up for in the end.
Title: Re: Surgery 10/07/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on June 20, 2013, 03:46:30 PM
Right! Got my surgery booked in for 10/07/2013 with Levick at 8.00am. Its a bit of a ball ache being that early because ive got to travel to get there but thats not an issue in the grand scheme of things. I'l try and get some pre op pics up asap probably tomorrow when my new phone arrives.
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Myers on June 20, 2013, 03:56:57 PM

Good luck mate, I'm having my consultation with Karidis next Friday, 1 week today, I'm hoping to get it booked up ASAP after that, hopefully he can literally fit me in within 1-2weeks. Now I've got to the stage where I know I'm defo having it, I don't want to wait 1-2months... I've been patient enough throughout my entire teen years having it and just dealing with it. And it's my Birthday June 24th, so would be nice to have it done before that and be on the road to recovery during my Birthday, plus I'm sure it will start getting to them horrid high 20 degree days soon and I just wanna be free to wear my t-shirt without the vest by end of July/August.

Let us know when you get it booked up for in the end.

Cheers mate, I've finally got it booked! I wanted to get it done sooner but ive got a holiday booked on the 26th of june for a week so i went for asap after that. Ive been following your thread and i cant wait to get it done now even though the rollercoaster sounds pretty grim and i tend to worry quite a lot about things. I guess you have to just look at the long term and think of where your chest will be at by christmas. If stems results 6 months on are anything to go by then its all gonna be good
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: KSS24 on June 20, 2013, 04:16:35 PM

Good luck mate, I'm having my consultation with Karidis next Friday, 1 week today, I'm hoping to get it booked up ASAP after that, hopefully he can literally fit me in within 1-2weeks. Now I've got to the stage where I know I'm defo having it, I don't want to wait 1-2months... I've been patient enough throughout my entire teen years having it and just dealing with it. And it's my Birthday June 24th, so would be nice to have it done before that and be on the road to recovery during my Birthday, plus I'm sure it will start getting to them horrid high 20 degree days soon and I just wanna be free to wear my t-shirt without the vest by end of July/August.

Let us know when you get it booked up for in the end.

Cheers mate, I've finally got it booked! I wanted to get it done sooner but ive got a holiday booked on the 26th of june for a week so i went for asap after that. Ive been following your thread and i cant wait to get it done now even though the rollercoaster sounds pretty grim and i tend to worry quite a lot about things. I guess you have to just look at the long term and think of where your chest will be at by christmas. If stems results 6 months on are anything to go by then its all gonna be good

Wicked mate, congrats on the book up!! I am now 1 week post-op and don't regret a thing, I'm already happy with my results... But i've not even started with the scar tissue yet, so I'm sure I'm gonna have a rough month or two coming up. But honestly, I don't have to get my body out for shit so as long as I can wear a t-shirt without having big puffy nipples on breasts poking through I'm happy, and right now I'm sitting here in a t-shirt with no vest on underneath (having a break as I don't have much swelling), flat as hell & I'm loving it. I'll be keeping up to date with your thread, I've seen some amazing work from Levick so I wish you the best of luck.
Title: Re: Surgery 10/07/2013 with Levick
Post by: Donut on June 21, 2013, 08:22:57 PM
Right! Got my surgery booked in for 10/07/2013 with Levick at 8.00am. Its a bit of a ball ache being that early because ive got to travel to get there but thats not an issue in the grand scheme of things. I'l try and get some pre op pics up asap probably tomorrow when my new phone arrives.

Great! - look forward to following another Levick miracle! - I've still a lot of saving to do, but think I might be leaning more towards Levick's technique due to where he makes the cuts in armpits rather than on edge of nips... though I wonder if it is more difficult to be so 'accurate' when you are attacking the gland from further away as it were? His results speak for themselves though, so no worries!
Title: Re: Surgery 10/07/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on July 09, 2013, 11:08:28 AM
Just a quick update, I've had to rearrange my operation to 28/8/2013. I got my uni results and unfortunately i have to resit a couple of things and i don't believe that surgery is the best thing for me until the resit period is over so i can focus on my work. To be honest i'm feeling a lot more confident about my chest after my holiday and people saying they think there's nothing wrong with it, that's not to say i don't still feel really insecure about it but my friends comments have really helped. Its quite funny how your own perception of yourself is so much more critical and scrutinizing than of other people. Roll on the end of August
Title: Re: New and Considering surgery
Post by: Era on July 10, 2013, 11:08:50 AM
Welcome!

Good luck with saving up, I'm in same boat... £800 in the piggy bank so far  :)

As to it returning, if you chose a surgeon who removes the gland, it can't return... Actual fat can still return, but of course fat is easy to lose, just diet. Gland can only be lost via a sharp knife!

Not true man it can certainly come back. Surgeons leave a little bit of gland behind the nipple to keep everything looking good otherwise there would be a crater. They remove about 99% of the gland. Unless 100% is removed it can still grow back.

Its rare but can happen, if you smoke weed or do steroids or your hormones go crazy on there own like they did when you hit puberty, gyno can come back.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Donut on July 10, 2013, 01:24:41 PM

Not true man it can certainly come back. Surgeons leave a little bit of gland behind the nipple to keep everything looking good otherwise there would be a crater. They remove about 99% of the gland. Unless 100% is removed it can still grow back.

Its rare but can happen, if you smoke weed or do steroids or your hormones go crazy on there own like they did when you hit puberty, gyno can come back.

Well if you choose to do drugs, (other than required prescription drugs of course) then you should expect and deserve the consequences... As for 1% remaining gland growing into noticeable moobs again, if your hormones are that crazy some years after puberty, then probably the last thing you'll be worrying about is moobs I suspect.

Would be interested in reading some proper medical research on moobs returning after 99% of gland being excised (in guys that don't do weed/steroids or other drugs well known to cause gynecomastia) - I've not been able to find any?

There are exceptions to everything, of course, but seems the vast majority of guys develop gyne during puberty, and it just remains more-or-less the same until they get it sorted. It generally only seems to get worse over time in guys who put on a lot of weight and/or use drugs known to exaserbate the problem (like weed/steroids) - all of which upset the natural hormone balance which otherwise returns to most guys after puberty... it's just gland once formed, won't go away without surgery (as we all know).

Is there anyone on here whose GLAND (as opposed to fat deposits) has re-grown after being 99% excised? and if so what was the cause?

The doctors say it can't grow back, (unless you do drugs or put on a ton of weight) - so if that is untrue, we are all being mislead?!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on August 27, 2013, 01:37:19 PM
Heading off to Birmingham soon, the operation is tomorrow. I'm feeling a weird sense of nervous excitement. I kind of know what to expect because of all the information everyone has given on here but even so it feels like a step into the unknown. Next time I post I'll be gyne free!!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Donut on August 28, 2013, 12:21:46 AM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: g3579 on August 28, 2013, 07:32:40 AM
Good luck for today! :)
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: improving on August 28, 2013, 12:27:41 PM
Great stuff mate, you won't look back, look forward to your updates, all the best.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on August 28, 2013, 02:25:00 PM
cheers for the support guys!!!
Currently sat in my room feeling pretty good at the moment. It's been a bit of a bit of a bumpy day. All the staff including Dr.Levick have been amqxingly helpful and friendly. When I arrived I had to fill in a couple of forms I'd forgotten to do before I came and then the porter came to take me to my room. As a few others have mentioned you dont really get much chance to dwell on whats about to happen because literally every doctor, nurse and anaesthetist has something to ask you and go over but tbh I really wasnt nervous at all I was actually excited. Eventually it was time to go down and I got taken to surgery by a very cute anaesthetist ;). It was her and two others who put me under. I woke up in recovery and this was were I was out of it. I couldn't keep my eyes open but I felt really uncomfortable and couldnt go to sleep. After getting wheeled to my room I still felt horrible and I wasnt looking forward to a day feeling like that. As it happens I'd been given morphine which from previous experience fucks me up and not in the good way. Its taken a while for the effects of the morphine to subside and now it has I feel great. I'm wrapped up pretty tight in the compression bandage but tbh it seems more like a stab proof vest the amount its been padded out. It's going to be interesting trying to hide it under clothes in the next week. The foods been great and my parents have been really helpful also. looking forward to tomorrow when levick shows me what he pulled out, he genuinely seemed surprised by the amount he got out considering he thought I HAD mild gyno. I'll try and upload some pre op pics at some point and then get the post op ones as well when I receive them.  I'll take some myself when im more mobile.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on August 29, 2013, 04:00:33 AM
Just waiting for them to take the drains out and I can't wait till its done, they're really starting to irritate me.  From the sounds of things on here when they actually get removed its pretty grim so not looking forward to that. last night was pretty touch and go I didnt get much sleep but that was mainly due to me nodding off all day in fact I think I got more sleep this morning. Levick came in to show me the pictures and I was surprised by how much hed taken out, there was a good chunk of gland in there. He told me to just scan in the picture so I will do when I get home and upload it. Roll on 4 weeks when I can finally start a bit of light weight training.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on August 29, 2013, 06:35:26 AM
Apparently I was the only one out of 4 who went pretty faint and felt that when they took the drains out it was excruciating. Not a nice experience, people react to it differently I guess.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: improving on August 29, 2013, 07:02:36 AM
Congratulations dude, you did it, welcome to the other side :) The drains seem to effect people in different ways. The main thing is you're gyne free.

Best of luck with your recovery, time to chill out and drink lots of pineapple juice!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on August 29, 2013, 07:37:44 AM
Thanks improving, ive got a head start on the pineapple juice and ive been taking my arnica as well. Time to travel home now and begin stage 2
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on August 30, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
Day 2 post op:
My mobility seems to be improving quite quickly and im quite looking forward to where i'll be in a week. The bandages are really annoying, ive been fastened in to quite an arkward position. Its quite funny because ive spent most of this summer working on my posture with shoulders back and down due to the years of hunching my shoulders forward and when i finally get rid of my gyne im stuck with my soulders hunched for a week :p. I keep getting a sharp burning pain sensation in my RHS, nothing too bad but enough to make me slightly anxious. I cant wait to get the bandages off and have a look instead of constantly second guessing myself that the surgery might not have gone well or something like that.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Donut on August 30, 2013, 10:22:55 PM
I'm sure you'll be fine... The guy seems to be a genuine genius!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on August 31, 2013, 10:24:59 AM
Cheers donut I know you're right and I just have to patient.

Pre op side:


Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on August 31, 2013, 10:27:03 AM
Pre op front:
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on August 31, 2013, 10:28:01 AM
Pre op side:
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick
Post by: Myers on August 31, 2013, 10:29:43 AM
Operating pic:
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: improving on August 31, 2013, 02:47:48 PM
It's normal to wonder whats going on under the bandages dude, just keep looking at the removed glands picture and rest assured that its all gone now and in the bin! You'll be amazed when you take the bandages off, it's kinda hard to describe the feeling, but i was elated.

Decent physique btw, you look like a leaner version of me. What are your stats? (height/weight) What training do you do?
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on August 31, 2013, 03:28:08 PM
It's normal to wonder whats going on under the bandages dude, just keep looking at the removed glands picture and rest assured that its all gone now and in the bin! You'll be amazed when you take the bandages off, it's kinda hard to describe the feeling, but i was elated.

Decent physique btw, you look like a leaner version of me. What are your stats? (height/weight) What training do you do?

Cheers mate. Yeh I cant wait, counting down the hours! Thanks, i used to be quite a lot chubbier not so long ago but ive really got my diet into gear and my training as well. I'm 6 foot bang on and the week before my op I was 79Kg, I've been using stronglifts 5x5 for quite a while and ive started adding in some extra accessory stuff on top. Can't wait to get back in there but im not going to rush anything. Just placed an order for some impact whey and some bcaa's from my protein to help reduce muscle wastage, may as well keep my protein intake high to maintain as much as i can.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Donut on August 31, 2013, 07:41:08 PM
Well with that much junk and gunk removed, I think there is going to be quite a difference under those bandages!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Keep_It_Moving on August 31, 2013, 09:22:23 PM
It's normal to wonder whats going on under the bandages dude, just keep looking at the removed glands picture and rest assured that its all gone now and in the bin! You'll be amazed when you take the bandages off, it's kinda hard to describe the feeling, but i was elated.

Decent physique btw, you look like a leaner version of me. What are your stats? (height/weight) What training do you do?

Cheers mate. Yeh I cant wait, counting down the hours! Thanks, i used to be quite a lot chubbier not so long ago but ive really got my diet into gear and my training as well. I'm 6 foot bang on and the week before my op I was 79Kg, I've been using stronglifts 5x5 for quite a while and ive started adding in some extra accessory stuff on top. Can't wait to get back in there but im not going to rush anything. Just placed an order for some impact whey and some bcaa's from my protein to help reduce muscle wastage, may as well keep my protein intake high to maintain as much as i can.

I'm really looking forward to seeing your results man! Keep us posted....
Great physique as well... I'm very close to your bf and I want to get it as low as possible for surgery... extra cardio and extra broccoli and chicken, ahha...
Best!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 01, 2013, 05:01:55 AM
I'm really looking forward to seeing your results man! Keep us posted....
Great physique as well... I'm very close to your bf and I want to get it as low as possible for surgery... extra cardio and extra broccoli and chicken, ahha...
Best!

Thanks keep it moving, I wanted to get as low a bf as i could before the surgery, still got a little bit left to lose to get rid of my 'loose skin' which is actually just more fat bagging it out but i can worry about that in a couple of months when im back in the gym. Can't beat a bit of chicken and broccoli, its all about that protein and cruciferous veg aha!

Im noticing my mobility is greatly improving day by day, im getting more confident with my movements and I dont have to be as stiff when moving about. Theres still occasions where i stretch a little too far trying to get my dressing gown on or something like that but theres no pain and i really cant wait to get these compression bandages off. Its killing my back as im fastened in with my shoulders up and forward, i dont know if anyone else has had an issue with this but my traps are getting an extended work out that id rather they didnt.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 01, 2013, 10:43:53 AM
Well with that much junk and gunk removed, I think there is going to be quite a difference under those bandages!

I'm just a bit curious as to why the left had so much more removed than the right when they look pretty similar to me in size. I forgot to ask what the weight of each was as well
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Keep_It_Moving on September 01, 2013, 01:45:15 PM

[/quote]

Thanks keep it moving, I wanted to get as low a bf as i could before the surgery, still got a little bit left to lose to get rid of my 'loose skin' which is actually just more fat bagging it out but i can worry about that in a couple of months when im back in the gym. Can't beat a bit of chicken and broccoli, its all about that protein and cruciferous veg aha!

Im noticing my mobility is greatly improving day by day, im getting more confident with my movements and I dont have to be as stiff when moving about. Theres still occasions where i stretch a little too far trying to get my dressing gown on or something like that but theres no pain and i really cant wait to get these compression bandages off. Its killing my back as im fastened in with my shoulders up and forward, i dont know if anyone else has had an issue with this but my traps are getting an extended work out that id rather they didnt.
[/quote]

I'm assuming you had excision and aggressive lipo done? I can't wait to see the results!
The extra trap workout is a plus! Who doesn't want traps like Tom Hardy? LoL....

Keep us posted man, this thread is inspirational...
Best!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 01, 2013, 02:15:32 PM
I'm assuming you had excision and aggressive lipo done? I can't wait to see the results!
The extra trap workout is a plus! Who doesn't want traps like Tom Hardy? LoL....

Keep us posted man, this thread is inspirational...
Best!

In all honesty im not entirely sure, i forgot to ask for the specifics whilst i was there just because you have so much going on. I think Levicks technique does involve some lypo because once the gland is removed the fat around the edges would form an indentation so i think he removes the fat so everything is flat and thats why hes able to remove all of the gland. Although someone who knows more about it might be able to shed some light. I'll send an email tomorrow and try and find out a few more details like the weight of the glands removed and the amount of fat etc. Haha hopefully my traps wil be massive by thursday, at least i wont have to worry about any muscle wastage from there ;)
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 04, 2013, 05:49:27 AM
The bandages came off this morning!! It's been a big relief, those things get itchy towards the end. I am very pleased so far with the results however i know this is the beginning and theres a long way to go yet. I would've liked to see the bottoms of my pecs a bit more but there seems to be fat under them where the breast tissue used to extend to, either that or its just really swollen, im not too sure. My right side seems more swollen than my left even though the gland was a lot smaller but ive noticed a few people have found that. Tried a few polo shirts on and im really happy so far :D. Ive put the compression vest on and its not too uncomfortable yet. It was so good to finally get a shower, I was beggining to smell a lot haha.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 04, 2013, 05:50:52 AM
Its only been a week as well and ive put on some fat, to be expected though :D

Results 7 days Post Op:
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 04, 2013, 06:01:10 AM
Comparison:
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Donut on September 04, 2013, 03:20:11 PM
Wow! Looking like another first class job already, and only a week in!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Keep_It_Moving on September 04, 2013, 08:32:25 PM
No kidding man! Looks excellent!
Congrats
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 05, 2013, 09:47:10 AM
Cheers guys. I'm really happy with how its turned out so far. Not looking forward to when things start to get more bumpy etc but I'll deal with that as it comes and thanks to the forum I have a decent idea of the kind of things to expect during the recovery process. From the looks of others on here working to build more muscle and shape in my chest provides really amazing results so I cant wait to get back in the gym and see where I am 6 months on. I'm finding the compression vest alright actually, it definitely provides a lot of support and allows for a lot more movement than the dressings did. Its not incredibly tight so im not too sure if I couldve got a smaller size but it seems to be doing the job. I'll upload some more oics tomorrow.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: jamie10 on September 05, 2013, 05:22:40 PM
Hey congrats on your results! Thanks for all the postings, it is great to read them. I have surgery on 26th and I would say my gyno is slightly worse than yours, but we are miles apart. Just wondering do u plan on getting into a massage regime soon? Any advice from Levick on this? Also did u take the arnica as recommended? Looking good!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 06, 2013, 04:27:00 AM
Hey congrats on your results! Thanks for all the postings, it is great to read them. I have surgery on 26th and I would say my gyno is slightly worse than yours, but we are miles apart. Just wondering do u plan on getting into a massage regime soon? Any advice from Levick on this? Also did u take the arnica as recommended? Looking good!

Thanks Jamie and good luck with your surgery! You're in great hands with Levick. Levick mentioned massaging but he said wait a few weeks first. I'm gonna wait till im just wearing my compression vest for 12 hours and do it around that, so in another week and a half. I dont know what oil to go for but i think a lot on here have used bio oil. As for the arnica i only got mine a few days before the op so i started taking it as soon as i got it, think it was 2 tablets a day up till the op. 2 tablets the morning of the op then 2 every 4 hours after for a week. Then drop the dosage back down to two tablets a day for a further week. Basically for the first few days i just took them with my pain meds after that whenever i remembered really. I wouldnt worry too much about missing taking your arnica though, its not a big deal
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 06, 2013, 06:43:37 AM
Was just wondering if anyone knows how long it takes for areola size to decrease or is that pretty much straight away after surgery. Mine havent exactly shrunk much but its not something I'm bothered about at all tbh just curious is all. Any advice would be appreciated and sorry for the constant walls of text I keep posting, just trying to get as much info out as possible.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 06, 2013, 01:31:47 PM
Few side views
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 06, 2013, 01:34:28 PM
Top, not the best pic but it was difficult to get a good angle and I didnt want to stretch up too far
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: jamie10 on September 07, 2013, 05:24:25 AM
Thanks for the info before mate. Looking good. I think these side and top shots are more telling of the excellent results than the one front on...

Seems like you have some well defined pecs which can be shown off! When you plan on getting exercising again? I think Levick managed take it easy one month after, so I guess weights on the chest area would have to be light, and you would have to take it really really light - maybe 2 months after.

Just wondering - is the compression vest really noticeable if, for example, you wear a hoodie? I will have to go to work about 4 days post op, and was wondering if I will have a big protrusion from the chest which is the bandage poking through ;p

Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 07, 2013, 06:28:57 AM
Thanks for the info before mate. Looking good. I think these side and top shots are more telling of the excellent results than the one front on...

Seems like you have some well defined pecs which can be shown off! When you plan on getting exercising again? I think Levick managed take it easy one month after, so I guess weights on the chest area would have to be light, and you would have to take it really really light - maybe 2 months after.

Just wondering - is the compression vest really noticeable if, for example, you wear a hoodie? I will have to go to work about 4 days post op, and was wondering if I will have a big protrusion from the chest which is the bandage poking through ;p

Tbh i feel like i could get in the gym today and do some cardio on a bike, not sure about jogging or anything yet but im planning on going on wednesday when I'll be 2 weeks post op. Gonna leave it till 4 weeks post op to start on my chest, in bed i went through the bench press motions, obviously with no weight and there was no negative feelings at all. When i get back in there im going to go incredibly light. The gym i use has a 20kg olympic barbell and a lighter 10 kg barbell, so ill start off doing some reps with the 10kg one at first and see how it feels, if im not happy ill back off but its just about testing what you're capable of and being smart about it. I'll probably start squatting again in a week or so but again empty bar.
The compression dressing protrudes quite a bit but theres nothing really you can do about it, I was fixed into a pretty arkward position with my shoulders forward and up. It will only be for a couple of days anyway, plus no one will think twice about it and it wont matter 3 days later, just say youve injured your shoulders or something and its a support bandage, no one will question it. As for the compression vest you cant notice it even with a t shirt on, the only thing that shows through for me is when theres wind directly at you and you can see the fastenings a tiny bit but again no one will know and if you wear a hoodie then there wont be an issue with that.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: jamie10 on September 08, 2013, 11:26:58 AM
Hey thanks for the insight on that...

Yeah, definitely take it easy. I think you have the right approach. If you keep up your protein intake you shouldn't lose too much muscle mass if you go light. I reckon it could take a good few months before you get back to pre-surgery. In fact, I think a doctor on here as said it would be about 6 months to get to a state akin to pre-surgery. If that is an indicator you may want to go light and then moderate on the chest for some time. Your body will tell you either way. I recall also hearing someone say they developed bruising after doing chest exercises prematurely - scary thought! However, I don't know how soon he started up and how heavy he was lifting.

You'll have to keep us posted ;)
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 09, 2013, 01:12:29 PM
Hey thanks for the insight on that...

Yeah, definitely take it easy. I think you have the right approach. If you keep up your protein intake you shouldn't lose too much muscle mass if you go light. I reckon it could take a good few months before you get back to pre-surgery. In fact, I think a doctor on here as said it would be about 6 months to get to a state akin to pre-surgery. If that is an indicator you may want to go light and then moderate on the chest for some time. Your body will tell you either way. I recall also hearing someone say they developed bruising after doing chest exercises prematurely - scary thought! However, I don't know how soon he started up and how heavy he was lifting.

You'll have to keep us posted ;)

Yeh im gonna focus more on volume instead of intensity when i get back in there because my usual routine is 5x5 so i'll lower the weight and up the volume.

I think some scar tissue has formed, it seems quite large below my right nipple, like a hard rectangular block a couple of inches wide, Ive begun to massage it through my vest. Im not that bothered by it at the moment because i fully expect this to be a long recovery and im trying to think in terms of like 6-12 months instead of the here and now, we'll see how it goes. Thinking about sorting a follow up with Levick in a few months time just so he can have a look and make sure everything is fine.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 17, 2013, 11:20:49 AM
3 weeks post op tomorrow:

I was back at work for the first time over the weekend, I work at Asda so it can be fairly labour intensive depending on what I'm doing. My manager knows i had an operation although she doesn't know exactly what I had done so she put me on some lighter stuff which was fine. It felt a little tight at the side of my chest when i was biking to and from work but there was no pain or anything and my suspension helped with any bumps along the way. I've been massaging every now and again, focusing on the areas of scar tissue which have developed or are developing, they feel pretty hard so I'm not sure how much good it will but hopefully it'll all work out by the end. I went to the gym for the first time yesterday and it felt alright, no real issues. I worked on some leg stuff on the machines then did some cardio on the cross trainer. My friends were on chest day so i felt a little left out but I'll give it a few weeks and it will all be good. I find that the most frustrating part at the moment for me is that I'm not fully mobile, the gym is one of my biggest releases and the fact that I'm not able to do certain things is worse than the scar tissue or swelling by a long way. Probably going to wear my vest for a further 3 weeks 24/7, it is tight but I'm used to it now and I like the support it provides plus from what I've read most people say to wear it between 3-6 weeks and i can't see any harm in keeping it on
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: jamie10 on September 18, 2013, 12:41:35 AM
Hey, seems like your progressing well mate. Yeah keep going with the vest, there is no harm in that! Do you have two vests? I have one but someone else was posting on here about getting 2 and it may be worthwhile as having only one may get smelly! ;p

It's good you are able to do some gym stuff a few weeks after. You will be back to normal soon enough!

Regarding scar tissues - do you have little hard lumps scattered, or is it bigger concentrated lumps? I made a post about injecting scar tissue previously but no one replied. Do you have a follow up with Levick booked? You may be able to get injections in the future if you do indeed end up with any scar tissue. Massage may well help a lot though!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Jonny5 on September 18, 2013, 06:41:31 AM
I've been thinking about wearing the vest for longer too. The only thing is the blurb they gave me says '2 weeks 24/7 then a further 2 weeks day or night MAXIMUM' ...in caps. I'm gonna email them now and see what that's about. I always thought the garment was to keep swelling down and that can be present for a lot longer than 2 weeks, also different surgeons recommend different timings. I suppose it could be like other 'injuries' in that beyond a certain point you need to let the body repair unaided, like taking off a cast or dressings. Perhaps it is possible that keeping it on could actually slow down healing?
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 18, 2013, 08:22:10 AM
Hey, seems like your progressing well mate. Yeah keep going with the vest, there is no harm in that! Do you have two vests? I have one but someone else was posting on here about getting 2 and it may be worthwhile as having only one may get smelly! ;p

It's good you are able to do some gym stuff a few weeks after. You will be back to normal soon enough!

Regarding scar tissues - do you have little hard lumps scattered, or is it bigger concentrated lumps? I made a post about injecting scar tissue previously but no one replied. Do you have a follow up with Levick booked? You may be able to get injections in the future if you do indeed end up with any scar tissue. Massage may well help a lot though!

Yeh I've got two vests, but i only really need one. I was pretty lucky cos i responded to thread and got them for free, the only issue is one is a lot tighter than the other so I've been sticking with that one and only swapping while I'm waiting for the tighter one to wash and dry etc. I've been using the hand wash cycle on the washing machine then tumble drying it on light. Seems to be working well and its always nice and tight again after.
The scar tissue is mainly big concentrated lumps especially below my right nipple and I can feel more forming round where the drains were in pretty much the same place on my left as well. I noticed the big bit forming pretty much a week after the surgery, there's no point in stressing about it because i figure it's out of my hands so I've just got on with it, I'll see how it goes and like you said I can always get injections if it doesn't subside. I haven't booked a follow up yet, I should probably get on it and send some pics over so he knows how it went. I'm gonna aim to get an appointment a few months down the line so probably about December time that way I'll probably be into the worst of the scar tissue and i have no immediate issue at the moment so its all good :)
 
I've been thinking about wearing the vest for longer too. The only thing is the blurb they gave me says '2 weeks 24/7 then a further 2 weeks day or night MAXIMUM' ...in caps. I'm gonna email them now and see what that's about. I always thought the garment was to keep swelling down and that can be present for a lot longer than 2 weeks, also different surgeons recommend different timings. I suppose it could be like other 'injuries' in that beyond a certain point you need to let the body repair unaided, like taking off a cast or dressings. Perhaps it is possible that keeping it on could actually slow down healing?

It's interesting that it says that, everything I've read suggests that it will have no negative effect wearing it longer, if you find out will you post in here or your thread, would be interesting to know :D. I only intend to wear it for a few more weeks anyway and after that just for gym sessions for extra support.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: 3rdTimeLucky (Dave) on September 24, 2013, 02:11:48 AM
You must be ecstatic man, excellent job
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 24, 2013, 03:14:28 PM
You must be ecstatic man, excellent job

Not gonna lie, i do get pretty excited whenever i see my chest in the mirror, its a good feeling. I can't believe its been nearly 4 weeks already, its flown by.
Got some Bio oil today as well so i'll use that instead of the olive oil.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: jamie10 on September 27, 2013, 01:49:01 PM
Hey any updates on your progress? I am all done! Can't believe it is over so fast. My chest feels sore but I actually still have sensation there and nipples aren't numb or anything. I hate the bandage I was given. I actually got a new one put on because the first one was not positioned well. It is really bulky and kind of pulls my shoulders In. I am not convinced it is a better option that jumping straight to the compression vest, but I will keep it on until next Wednesday I think and then switch. U had it on for a full week did u? U can see my pics in my thread. Cheers!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on September 29, 2013, 01:18:42 PM
Hey any updates on your progress? I am all done! Can't believe it is over so fast. My chest feels sore but I actually still have sensation there and nipples aren't numb or anything. I hate the bandage I was given. I actually got a new one put on because the first one was not positioned well. It is really bulky and kind of pulls my shoulders In. I am not convinced it is a better option that jumping straight to the compression vest, but I will keep it on until next Wednesday I think and then switch. U had it on for a full week did u? U can see my pics in my thread. Cheers!

Welcome to the other side!!! I have sensation as well, I cut my finger on broken glass when i was at uni and it severed the nerves along the side of my little finger, at first i couldn't feel anything, it was completely numb but eventually some sensation has returned, My chest feels how my little finger does at the moment so because there is some sensation already hopefully all the nerves will heal. I know it'll take a while, took my finger over a year to get some sensation back and it still feels weird now a few years on. Yeh the bandage for me was kind of annoying, it pulled my shoulders forward and up so my back was killing me after a week. I had my op on the Wednesday but when Levick saw me on the Thursday he said take the bandage off in a week so i think he meant the following Thursday but i took it off on the Wednesday anyway because i was sick of it.

Nothing much to report really, i went to my brothers wedding over the weekend which was really good fun, its also the first time I've had my vest off for any real length of time because i didn't want it showing up under my shirt. Managed to use the pool at the hotel as well so I've been swimming Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Turns out having a swim and going in the Jacuzzi, sauna and steam rooms is a great way to get rid of a hangover. I was a tiny bit conscious of my chest at first because of the swelling and loose skin etc but i got on with it and now I'm not bothered at all, it was a massive improvement from my holiday where i was constantly having to reassure myself and try to blank my chest out of my mind when at the beach or swimming. This whole post op business is mainly a mental game.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: ScaredGuy on October 06, 2013, 05:39:25 AM
Hi mate, had my surgery 3 days ago still very sore and I'm reading through everyone's threads :)

I used to order from myprotein.com but stopped since the addition of vat to supplements. Can you let me know what is worth getting to prevent muscle wastage? I'm hugely into gym as well and not lifting is stressing me out, I'm going to be gutted when I get back and my strength is sapped so I'd like to prevent that from happening as much as I can.
Thank you
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Keep_It_Moving on October 06, 2013, 12:25:00 PM
Hi mate, had my surgery 3 days ago still very sore and I'm reading through everyone's threads :)

I used to order from myprotein.com but stopped since the addition of vat to supplements. Can you let me know what is worth getting to prevent muscle wastage? I'm hugely into gym as well and not lifting is stressing me out, I'm going to be gutted when I get back and my strength is sapped so I'd like to prevent that from happening as much as I can.
Thank you

What is vat in supplements? I've never heard of that before. Is it something that increases estrogen?
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: ScaredGuy on October 06, 2013, 12:43:47 PM
Haha no, V.A.T. as in value added tax increasing the cost of protein shakes by 20% or so.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Keep_It_Moving on October 06, 2013, 01:41:28 PM
Haha no, V.A.T. as in value added tax increasing the cost of protein shakes by 20% or so.

Gotcha...haha.
Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on October 06, 2013, 05:52:08 PM
Hi mate, had my surgery 3 days ago still very sore and I'm reading through everyone's threads :)

I used to order from myprotein.com but stopped since the addition of vat to supplements. Can you let me know what is worth getting to prevent muscle wastage? I'm hugely into gym as well and not lifting is stressing me out, I'm going to be gutted when I get back and my strength is sapped so I'd like to prevent that from happening as much as I can.
Thank you

Hey, congrats on your surgery, hope it all goes well now you're on the other side. Ive basically been keeping my protein intake high, so im using impact whey from my protein and some bcaa's also. Not sure how much good they've been doing and i have lost muscle but that couldn't really be helped, plus it gives me a nice goal to aim for by christmas. Hope this helps mate
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on October 07, 2013, 02:03:23 PM
Just been to the gym and went for a swim after. I'm back to my normal routine now and its all feeling good. Was doing some overhead press today and i thought i wouldn't be able to do it but i was doing 40kg for 5x5 and there was no negative feeling at all. Usually at the end of sronglifts 5x5 workout B i'll do some pullups However i tried to hang off the bar and slowly move my legs off the ground reducing the support gradually but it felt more and more tender as i let myself hang more so i decided i'd wait a few more weeks. I'll probably swap pull ups out for some pull downs for the time being. I've lost a fair amount of strength after being inactive for a month and a half but i should be back to where i was in no time. It's funny when i was swimming on holiday i was so conscious of my chest and it was hard to turn that off and get on with it, now it feels awesome to just go swimming and not care about it when getting in and out.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: ScaredGuy on October 08, 2013, 01:12:39 AM
Thanks for the update it certainly was interesting. I'm really not looking forward to the loss in strength, I'm a heavy guy at just over 15 stone so pull ups are hard for me but I was able to do a set of 12 full motion pull ups I wonder how long it well take to get back to that. Also I've always had weight problems which I offset by going to thegym a lot so I'm really gonna have to keep my diet in check now, maybe go for ketosis or something but I'm worried how oit might impact my healing. Really happy to hear you're back at the gym anyway, how long would you say it was before you could comfortably go jogging?

Not sure if you saw my pics in my thread but swimming was an absolute no go for me as I had proper women's breasts. The reality of them now being gone hasn't sunk in yet probably won't until I take my bandages off.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on October 08, 2013, 09:29:55 AM
Thanks for the update it certainly was interesting. I'm really not looking forward to the loss in strength, I'm a heavy guy at just over 15 stone so pull ups are hard for me but I was able to do a set of 12 full motion pull ups I wonder how long it well take to get back to that. Also I've always had weight problems which I offset by going to thegym a lot so I'm really gonna have to keep my diet in check now, maybe go for ketosis or something but I'm worried how oit might impact my healing. Really happy to hear you're back at the gym anyway, how long would you say it was before you could comfortably go jogging?

Not sure if you saw my pics in my thread but swimming was an absolute no go for me as I had proper women's breasts. The reality of them now being gone hasn't sunk in yet probably won't until I take my bandages off.

I was torn between wanting to not increase my bf% and getting the best possible recovery but you have to put things into perspective. I opted to eat above my maintenance to give my body the nutrients it needed for recovery, as it stands ive not put too much fat on, I'm not as lean as i was pre op but im more determined than ever to get back to that. I use myfitness pal to record everything ive eaten, its a ball ache for most people but i prefer doing it that way so i know everything ive eaten and the breakdown of protein, fats and carbs. I'm a bit of a nerd for things like that, you could try using it, i know a few others on here have mentioned it. About jogging, I'm not actually sure, others have gone a couple of weeks after surgery but I'm not really the biggest runner so i couldnt say, I do remember jogging across the road at about 4 weeks and it didnt feel too great tbh. I was cycling a couple of weeks after However and id probably go for that if you're not comfortable jogging.
It's a pretty surreal experience when you take the bandages off, i wish you all the best with it!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Jonny5 on October 08, 2013, 12:03:14 PM
I would consider myself a runner and the thought of losing fitness was hard to take. I felt fine walking around after 2/3 days and by the end of week 1 was going for a 6 mile brisk walk after breakfast every day (had time off work). I think it was day 12 or 13 post-op that I broke into a jog but still had the vest on. I did a few slow miles and felt fine so foolishly carried on for a few more miles at my pre-op pace. The chest was not a problem but I tweaked my calf and had to take it slow for another week or so icing it after every run. Back to normal now thankfully and no discernible loss of fitness, today is just over 4 weeks out. Moral of the story - even if your chest is ready, the rest of you might not be :) Take it easy!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on October 16, 2013, 03:16:22 PM
Just sent an email trying to sort out a follow up. Nothing much to report really, I'm still swollen and the scar tissue is still there, I just want Levick to check me over. I've been swimming loads and it feels great, my chest still has a ways to go yet but I'm really happy at the moment so any improvement is a bonus. I was reading that the worst of the swelling and scar tissue is around 10-14 weeks and I'm approaching that time so it could very well get worse.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on October 20, 2013, 01:01:52 PM
Really been hammering the massage, it helps so much with the swelling and i love how my chest looks after a good session. Just bought a 200ml bottle of bio oil so I'm good to go for a while.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: jamie10 on October 20, 2013, 01:42:52 PM
Hey Myers, glad you are doing well at about 7 weeks post op. Seems like you are making good progress!

Where is most of your scar tissue located? I am not sure whether it is swelling or scar tissue with me. I think, if it is scar tissue it is near the nipple and running up the outer sides of the pectorals...

I am glad to hear massaging is working well! Can I check, have you ditched the compression vest completely now? I am about 3.5 weeks post op and think I will just wear it at night for another couple weeks. Wearing during the day was actually causing me pain because my nerves are recovering and my left side has been really aggravated by a tight vest occasionally rubbing the chest!

Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on October 20, 2013, 02:25:21 PM
Hey Myers, glad you are doing well at about 7 weeks post op. Seems like you are making good progress!

Where is most of your scar tissue located? I am not sure whether it is swelling or scar tissue with me. I think, if it is scar tissue it is near the nipple and running up the outer sides of the pectorals...

I am glad to hear massaging is working well! Can I check, have you ditched the compression vest completely now? I am about 3.5 weeks post op and think I will just wear it at night for another couple weeks. Wearing during the day was actually causing me pain because my nerves are recovering and my left side has been really aggravated by a tight vest occasionally rubbing the chest!



Hey Jamie, thats exactly where mine is. It feels hard from where the incisions are along the pec towards the bottom, it softens after massage though. I have a lump of scar tissue underneath my nipple on the right side which i hope will go away eventually, its not that big so im not too concerned about it. Yeh ive pretty much ditched the vest, i was gonna wear it for longer but i just kinda forgot about it, plus im used to not wearing it now so i dont see the point. I think i had it on 24/7 for 3 weeks then just at night for another 2. I found it was hurting me in the gym as well cos my chest was squashed against it so i stopped wearing it and its amazing how much more mobile you are without it. Yeh you should be fine wearing it just at night for a couple of weeks although i actually preferred wearing it in the day and keeping it off at night, i was getting really sweaty in bed it was pretty grim.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on April 06, 2014, 05:03:38 PM
Wow seems like forever since i posted on here. Just over 7 months post op and life without gyne is awesome. My chest is still not 100% perfect but i doubt it ever will be and tbh i dont really care that much, just being able to wear normal t shirts and not hunch my shoulders is awesome. I still have a large lump of scar tissue under my RHS  so when i eventually book a follow up with Levick I'll see what can be done about that. I'll try and get some pics up in the next few days so you guys can see how my chest looks now. Honestly can't wait for summer, just knowing that i don't need to hide is just incredibly exciting.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Samispeed on April 06, 2014, 08:11:00 PM
Looking good mate! Well jealous and really hope I look as good as yours post op!! My surgery is 2 weeks time and I'm going to cut fb as much as I can now so I'm lean for the op!
Your story is inspirational!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on April 07, 2014, 05:19:05 AM
Looking good mate! Well jealous and really hope I look as good as yours post op!! My surgery is 2 weeks time and I'm going to cut fb as much as I can now so I'm lean for the op!
Your story is inspirational!

Cheers mate, means a lot, i know how it felt when i was in the same position as you looking at other peoples stories who'd had theirs completed. Trust me, time will fly by and try not to get too hung up on the immediate results, i stopped caring after a while because i knew things would settle down. Just waiting for my camera to charge so i can take some 7 month op pics.
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Samispeed on April 07, 2014, 06:49:54 AM
👍 nice. Yeah I'm at the stage where I can't wait to get it removed and fingers crossed this summer will be good!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on April 07, 2014, 08:04:56 AM
This is my 7 month post op, still slightly swolen on my RHS but im not really bothered by it, im incredibly happy with my results tbh!!!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on April 07, 2014, 05:26:11 PM
This is what i came from:
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on April 07, 2014, 05:30:10 PM
Just a comparison from a week post op:
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Donut on April 07, 2014, 06:19:43 PM
Wow - looking pretty amazing there Myers!

...I really must find time to do something about building a little muscle  lol
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on April 08, 2014, 07:46:52 PM
Cheers Donut, I think Levick actually recommends doing some sort of weight training to give you the best results because your filling the gap i guess. I just enjoy lifting anyway aha but it seems to have worked out well and I'm really very happy with the results, bring on summer!!
Title: Re: Surgery 28/08/2013 with Levick with pics!!
Post by: Myers on April 19, 2014, 05:59:45 AM
I should really get around to making that follow up, I just have a few queries about scar tissue and slight swelling etc, nothing major and I'd quite like to get Levick's professional opinion on it. Its kind of a ball ache with him being based in Birmingham though, that's the only issue because of train fares etc and im pretty tight for money at the moment. I think i have up to a year which will be in August. I'll look to get a few more pics up as well, different angles etc but its hard trying to find the right lighting in my house aha plus i don't have my phone anymore which i lost so that makes it twice as annoying to sort out.