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Title: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on June 26, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
Check page 3 for my surgery experiences!
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Well I'm typing this on my Blackberry while in the bath in my Mercure hotel room! I saw Karidis today for a consult and decided to make a weekend of it and stay in London for a few days.

The consultation was what I expected it to be. Karidis outlined all the details that I already knew from reseach but it was reassuring nonetheless. He seems very confident that I'll get a very flat chest after the surgery.

I was offered surgery on the 23rd July which is very, very soon and a welcomed surprise really as it potentially means I can get this all over and sorted 3 days before my birthday!! I honestly can't even begin to imagine how amazing it would be to have a flat chest - I want it so badly. But at the same time I'm deeply scared: £4000 is the entirity of my savings (and not to mention a lot of money). Also my mum seems a bit dissapointed with my choice to go for surgery, even if she says otherwise. I guess she just loves me regardless and obviously just thinks I'm fine the way I am, she also thinks 4k is a lot for a final year student at 19 to be spending!

Nonetheless I told Karidis' secretary that I wanted to go ahead with surgery on the 23rd and gave her all my payment details. I think this is it... I think I'm going to do this.. Finally get rid of my horrible chest and move on once and for all.

Wish me luck guys. I'll be posting again soon to let you know how things progress and how I feel along the road.
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: merlot on June 26, 2009, 03:35:15 PM
Feels good to get it done doesn't it. I'm about 3 weeks ahead, and go in next week. I PMd a guy on here who went 3 weeks before me and got a lot of useful info out of him. If you think it would be useful for you to do the same by all means PM me and I'll share answers/advice/etc to any questions you think, as I'm sure I'll have been there. Good luck
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: thetodd on June 26, 2009, 08:26:21 PM
If you didnt have a blood test there, make sure you get one ASAP its imperative you have it done or you wont be able to have the surgery). You wont regret it! i had to visit StJohns today ... flash cockney wankers

Your going to be a bit rough on your birthday though mate, make sure you dont drink anything! You dont need much karidis's team will give you what you need really but

For swelling
PINEAPPLE, major healer for swelling get a load of chunks and pineapple juice it will do you a lot of good

Brusing
Arnica, they give you some arnica tablets through the post it isnt enough though get a tube extra from boots

Scarring
get yourself some Bio oil, it will help heal external/internal scarring and is nice to massage with. You could also get some arnica cream

they give you some waterproof bandages for your wounds, i was alergic to them you might need to get some from boots if thats the case. If you want to do yourself a favour bic you chest now 3 weeks pre op cause i was in fucking agony ripping the bandages off my wig piece after sugery :)

GL
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on June 28, 2009, 04:55:30 AM
Feels good to get it done doesn't it. I'm about 3 weeks ahead, and go in next week. I PMd a guy on here who went 3 weeks before me and got a lot of useful info out of him. If you think it would be useful for you to do the same by all means PM me and I'll share answers/advice/etc to any questions you think, as I'm sure I'll have been there. Good luck

While it does feel good to have the ball rolling on this it makes me HELLA nervous! I'm constantly worrying about how much money I'm spending, what my parents are gonna think, etc. I'm also worrying that as I have a bit of a belly; if I spent time trying to get into shape I wouldn't just lose the boobs naturally. But I think I'm just having last minute doubts as it were, as I've lost weight in the past and it's made bugger all difference to the moobs!

Thanks for the offer, I'll probably be taking you up on that soon!
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on June 28, 2009, 05:11:25 AM
If you didnt have a blood test there, make sure you get one ASAP its imperative you have it done or you wont be able to have the surgery). You wont regret it! i had to visit StJohns today ... flash cockney wankers

Your going to ... *SNIP*


Yeah this is a problem that I need to sort out ASAP! I didn't get the blood test with Karidis as at the time I was really money-conscious and kinda got the feeling the clinic was trying to take every last penny I had!! So I wanted to hold onto my £130  :P

I'm going to register tomorrow at my local GP and see if I can get him to do this *blood test*, but I have no idea what to ask for as I'm not sure exactly what Karidis needs!

I had a blood test about 2 weeks ago at hospital when I had a bladder infection, I wonder if I could ask the hospital to forward me a copy of that (if they still have it)?

Cheers for all the advice about aftercare and what to take, I'm gonna head to Holland and Barrett tomorrow I think and get some extra arnica and bio oil!

As for my chest, even at 19 it's still not all that hairy so it should all be cool  ;D
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: thetodd on June 28, 2009, 06:24:50 AM
These are the tests you need


Full Blood Count
Coag (Blood clotting test)
Urea and Electrolytes

Your GP should do it, but maybe try and get a mobile blood plebeotomist out it cost me £20 saves all the hassle. Mate you wouldnt have got rid of man boobs through excercise so dont worry about it. Once your recovered go down the gym and loose your belly! Your parents will just want your operation to go well and for you to be happy so dont have any concerns about that

good luck mate, make sure to take some before and after pictures
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on June 28, 2009, 06:36:56 AM
Don't worry, I'll take lots of pictures! Thanks again dude  ;D
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: merlot on July 06, 2009, 09:46:43 AM
For swelling
PINEAPPLE, major healer for swelling get a load of chunks and pineapple juice it will do you a lot of good

Brusing
Arnica, they give you some arnica tablets through the post it isnt enough though get a tube extra from boots

Scarring
get yourself some Bio oil, it will help heal external/internal scarring and is nice to massage with. You could also get some arnica cream

they give you some waterproof bandages for your wounds, i was alergic to them you might need to get some from boots if thats the case. If you want to do yourself a favour bic you chest now 3 weeks pre op cause i was in fucking agony ripping the bandages off my wig piece after sugery :)

GL

Great advice, I'm a few days post-op myself and can definitely recommend all of this.  Particularly the chest hair bit. Trying to get plasters off it was like Mel Gibson waxing his legs in What Women Want...!! (Though unfortunately I didn't end up with the side effect he got). Best to shave the whole thing off as it also gets caught in the closures of the compression garment too.

I'd also add to this to get some bran flakes down you, drink loads of water and get anything from high cupboards down low so you don't need to reach up over shoulder height.

The pineapple is great, but it's a whole lot easier in tins rather than trying to hack off the bulletproof skin of a real one.


Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 06, 2009, 05:41:59 PM
Awesome! Thanks for the extra advice :) How's your surgery going by the way? Good results so far?

Be careful with canned pineapple though - the tinned stuff gets "heat treated" which apparently destroys the enzyme (Bromelain) that reduces swelling & promotes healing.

As an update to people interested in how things are going down the Karidis route:

Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: thetodd on July 06, 2009, 06:33:03 PM
Make sure you pay it mate, Youl get a pack through the post saying that they need the full amount and blood test results X days before the operation

when i was paying for my surgery, they fucked up the visa transactions and took the amount out twice. And both payments were not being accepted on their side (not my banks fault). So the payments were stuck in limbo and i was -£300. I had to get StJohns to fax the failed transactions recipts and it took a week for the payments to get cancelled. Then i had to borrow a credit card off a relative .... it was a nightmare

And if they dont get your blood test results, they will have absolutley no problem not peforming the surgery and taking your money! Get it sorted asap
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 07, 2009, 02:17:52 PM
Thanks thetodd, gonna work out what's due to Karidis tonight and then give his team a call tomorrow - money has been in place for a while now.

As a follow up to everyone; I went to my GP today and told her about going for surgery. She seemed fine with it and sent me to the in-house nurse 5 minutes later who drew some blood from me and has sent it off to get analyzed.

For anyone who's interested, they're doing a FBC(full-blood-count), COAG(clotting test) which is required by Karidis' team as well as a hormone test and a LFT(liver function test) which my GP thought would be useful.

Thinking about it, it would have been a good idea to get the hormone test done PRIOR to booking the surgery, but what the hell ..  I'm tired of my chest, they're not going anywhere, weight loss doesn't help, and I'm too psyched up for the surgery now to drop out!  ;D
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: merlot on July 08, 2009, 03:22:41 AM
Awesome! Thanks for the extra advice :) How's your surgery going by the way? Good results so far?

Be careful with canned pineapple though - the tinned stuff gets "heat treated" which apparently destroys the enzyme (Bromelain) that reduces swelling & promotes healing.

As an update to people interested in how things are going down the Karidis route:

  • Surgery still booked for 23rd
  • Hotel is sorted out (spending 3 nights after the op in the Crowne Plaza @ London Docklands ;D)Blood test booked for tomorrow
  • Paid £1000 deposit, need to pay remaining balance (not sure if the ball is in my court here, or if Karidis' team will phone me and ask for it)

Yes it's all going good so far. Not much pain, only had 2 paracetamol the evening of surgery, and none since. Bruising isn't too bad at all, the Arnica helps with that. There is another homeopathic remedy you can take pre-op, will have to check, the name escapes me at the mo. The comp garment is a pain in the arse, and a relief to spend showertime out of it!!

I'd get some Aquafit plasters too from Boots in advance. The ones they give you are great, but they stick like superglue and I had a small blister caught under my arm one where it rubbed on the comp garment. Forch, I caught it in time and peeled it off to swap with a Boots one.

Payment-wise, both the hosp and K phoned me about a week or so in advance for the balancing payments, which all went through ok.

If ur staying in the hotel, get some Ariel handwash liquid too, so you can wash the garment ur not wearing in the bath.

Interesting about the tinned pineapple, I'll go back to hacking the real thing with a machete then!!
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 08, 2009, 07:51:51 AM
Haha thanks again for the info mate :)

Just had one of Karidis' secretaries on the phone beleive it or not! So I've sorted the remaining balance out just now. Just need to pay the hospital fees now and I'm all done.

Got another problem now though: As I mentioned in my previous post I got certain blood tests carried out yesterday at my GP's, but I totally forgot to mention to her that I needed "Urea and Electrolytes" (UE) too!!!!!!!!

She DID put me down for certain other tests like LFT/Hormone and perhaps another one, I can't remember... God this is a nightmare, it looks like I'll probably have to go back into the doctors and get another test done again! Hope they'll let me.

I'll keep you all updated.
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 08, 2009, 09:37:08 AM
update:

Got my Urea & Electrolytes (UE) test booked for next Monday 13th @ 9:20am.

Hoping to GOD that the results get back quickly as Karis needs them 1 week prior to surgery (16th), meaning I've got a 3 day period to retrieve my results and post them off to Karidis.

What a nightmare! I might give the team a call and see if they can cut me some slack if I send them the FBC/COAG results now and the UE results slightly after (and closer) to the op date.

Wish me luck as I seriously think I need it!

EDIT:

http://www.gynecomastia.org/smf/index.php?topic=17975.msg124664#msg124664 (http://www.gynecomastia.org/smf/index.php?topic=17975.msg124664#msg124664)

Cellar_Door is another member who had a lot of problems getting his blood tests sorted before his op with Karidis. In the end he managed to get the results to Karidis on the day of the surgery and they were fine with that. So I'm thinking that 5 days (or so) before the op should be perfectly fine!
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: thetodd on July 08, 2009, 10:56:58 AM
cellar door was cutting it extremley short lol, he had to go back and have them done again

dont post your results, its not realiable enough. Get them faxed and get them to confirm that theyve recived them. Its a nightmare getting it all sorted mate, the joys of private surgery!

Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 14, 2009, 12:09:25 PM
UPDATE:

I finally did the UE(Urea+Electrolytes) blood test this morning, unfortunately with a trainee nurse who botched the job as I got a call later in the day telling me she didn't take enough blood! Now with 9 days left until surgery this was a nightmare as Karidis stipulated all tests need to be back 15 days before the operation!

BUT! Not to fear!! It so happens that the original doctor I saw by some miracle actually booked me in for a UE blood test too, even though I forgot to ask her for it! I'm over the moon with my good luck. ;D

All tests came back within normal levels, including my hormone tests; indicating that my gyne isn't caused by excess oestrogen / etc.

9 days left - I cannot wait. I thoroughly intend to keep you all updated and take lots of pictures.

Thanks to everyone for your help so far and a special shout out to Thetodd and Merlot! :)
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: thetodd on July 14, 2009, 12:53:11 PM
No problem mate, make sure that karidis's team get the results asap id get them faxed over

Because the "patient co-ordinators" are in a word, shite! Really poor communication with the patients with blood tests etc and then their all nice on the phone. It doesnt wash with me though :P

Good look with your OP, karidis is a life saver! Will change your life!
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: merlot on July 14, 2009, 03:16:24 PM
UPDATE:

I finally did the UE(Urea+Electrolytes) blood test this morning, unfortunately with a trainee nurse who botched the job as I got a call later in the day telling me she didn't take enough blood! Now with 9 days left until surgery this was a nightmare as Karidis stipulated all tests need to be back 15 days before the operation!

BUT! Not to fear!! It so happens that the original doctor I saw by some miracle actually booked me in for a UE blood test too, even though I forgot to ask her for it! I'm over the moon with my good luck. ;D

All tests came back within normal levels, including my hormone tests; indicating that my gyne isn't caused by excess oestrogen / etc.

9 days left - I cannot wait. I thoroughly intend to keep you all updated and take lots of pictures.

Thanks to everyone for your help so far and a special shout out to Thetodd and Merlot! :)


No worries. I found it so useful getting "pre-info" from a few on here. It kind of normalises it all, and gives you the feeling that you're not alone.

Was the hormone test an additional test to the 3 they did at K's ??  I don't recall getting that one ?

9 days to go, cool. Take some good pre-pictures, as a lot of mine were sh!te and didn't really show it well.

cheers
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: no more on July 14, 2009, 07:51:50 PM
Hi frozen, just wanted to post because I am in the exact same situation as you and the same age lol. I am going to get the ball rolling again 2moz and going 2 the doctors to have a last try the NHS route as I have lost a stone and am in perfect shape now. I eventually plucked up the courage to tell my mum about my gyne about 4 days ago and she insisted if the doctors goes bad again 2moz she will pay for my operation so I will be on the phone to Kardis 2moz evening if the doctors goes badly again. All in hopes to get rid of this shitting condition before I start my second year at uni and can eventually relax and get on with my life. Just wanted to let you know your not alone at all man in your situation and I hope everything goes well for you. Just wondering, Im from manchester where are you from?
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 15, 2009, 07:44:27 AM
Hey Merlot, yeah it was different to the 3 tests (FBC+COAG+UE) that Karidis' team wanted. When I was talking to my doctor she told me that the surgery was pointless if my gyne would come back afterwards due to a hormone imbalance. I wasn't sure exactly how true her statement was, but being happy with getting the 3 blood tests I needed for free I didn't argue and let her do the 4th test!

The test measured my "serum oestradiol" levels, which is the most important form of the hormone oestregen. My test came back as "86 pmol/L", which was below the range of <130, meaning all is cool and hormones aren't to blame!

8 days left now! Getting really excited, which is really annoying actually as before it just felt like something I had to do, like a dentists appointment or something, but now I'm really looking forward to the whole thing!  ;D

Don't worry about pictures, I intend to take loads before and after.
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 15, 2009, 08:02:55 AM
Hey no more! Good on you for trying to get this sorted mate.  :) I wish I'd done this a year ago so it didn't bother me so much in my second year at uni!  In my first year, being a fresher and whatnot I just used to get wasted all the time and used to be superconfident having so many people around me all the time; so gyne didn't bother me half as much.

NHS is a great route obviously because it's all paid for, but I'd reccommend you look around on the forum and try to find some before/after cases of people who have been down the NHS route. Some NHS surgeons are great and actually do a great job, but others have very little or no experience in male chest reductions and have been known to botch them quite badly! I once saw a surgeon that used multiple holes for lipo, so the patient was left with scars all over his chest!

Although £4000 is a lot of money to go with Karidis I personally think it's worth every penny to get the best results you can. I'm not trying to say the NHS route isn't viable though. :)

Have a look around on the forum - I found it was really easy to make a decision between NHS/Karidis/other private surgeons.

Good luck dude! Let us know how you get on.

Oh and btw I'm in Bristol!  ;)
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 15, 2009, 11:23:45 AM
As an update it's 8 days left till the surgery, and at 5 days BEFORE the op I plan to start taking arnica at the reccommended dose (I bought some extra from Boots). I've looked around but can't see that it'll be a problem, and it also seems that some plastic surgeons even reccomend that thier patients start taking arnica before thier operation.

If anyone who is reading this knows otherwise, please let me know! Cheers guys!

EDIT:

Found a website that says to start taking arnica 3 days before the op and indicates how much to take.

http://robertfield3.wordpress.com/homeopathy-tips/homeopathy-tips-for-22409-surgery-protocol/ (http://robertfield3.wordpress.com/homeopathy-tips/homeopathy-tips-for-22409-surgery-protocol/)
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: thetodd on July 15, 2009, 03:50:39 PM
dont worry to much mate about the arnica. Make sure youve got some healthy food for after the op :)


Karidis was actually just on Teen Embarrasing Bodies, doing a tummy tuck on a girl was pretty gruesome. Seen him loads latley in the media kim marsh etc. Id love to see his bank balance :)
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: no more on July 17, 2009, 05:16:25 PM
Hi Frozen, went to the doctors and it didnt go well again so my mum said its fine to go private and now I have a consultation with Kardis on the 20th of july because he had a cancelation lol. His work looks amazing and im glad im not going down the NHS route now because I cant afford the risk of a NHS surgeon making a mess of me, only get to do this once (hopefully) so I'm glad im going private. Hope everything goes as you want it to man.
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: merlot on July 21, 2009, 01:40:22 PM
As an update it's 8 days left till the surgery, and at 5 days BEFORE the op I plan to start taking arnica at the reccommended dose (I bought some extra from Boots). I've looked around but can't see that it'll be a problem, and it also seems that some plastic surgeons even reccomend that thier patients start taking arnica before thier operation.

If anyone who is reading this knows otherwise, please let me know! Cheers guys!

EDIT:

Found a website that says to start taking arnica 3 days before the op and indicates how much to take.

http://robertfield3.wordpress.com/homeopathy-tips/homeopathy-tips-for-22409-surgery-protocol/ (http://robertfield3.wordpress.com/homeopathy-tips/homeopathy-tips-for-22409-surgery-protocol/)

Good luck fella, I believe ur Op is tomo or Thurs isn't it? 

Let us know how it goes, and if you need any info.  ;)
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 21, 2009, 02:27:13 PM
Cheers mate! The op is in 2 days on Thursday. Soooo excited!!

I'm pretty prepared at the moment, going to start packing my bags later, got all my recovery supplies sorted out and even phoned the hotel to let them know I want a room with a river view (;D) as I'll be spending most of my time in said room recovering!

My only question at the moment is what to do with my girlfriend while I'm undergoing the actual surgery.. Do you think she'll be able to go into my recovery room a little early? I'll give Karidis' team a call tomorrow anyway and see what they have to say.

*excited* can't wait!
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: thetodd on July 21, 2009, 05:38:28 PM
Its a hotel with surgeons mate, its not your typical hospital enviroment

So yes she can ;) anytime she wants she can stay in there if she really wants to while your having the OP. She'd prob be better off going down the road to the park though. My old man saw paul weller walking his dog ... dont see that everyday ;). I saw peter barlow on the northern line on my consult day aswell (star struck!)

The rooms big, youl have an onsuite bathroom a telly and a few seats, one should be a fully reclinable electronic chair thing
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: no more on July 22, 2009, 10:22:46 AM
Hi frozen hope your surgery goes well 2moz man, make sure you let me know how it goes, got mine booked for the 15th of august!!! cant wait. Good luck
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 23, 2009, 06:05:38 AM
Sitting in my room, all dressed up in my gown and surgery stuff and waiting for Karidis to come down and see me! Few more hours until a new beginning. Wish me luck!
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: JugsyMalone on July 23, 2009, 11:10:59 AM
Best wishes, Matey!!

I hope everything goes smoothly.  Guess you are as nervous as hell!!  Keep us all posted when you are out the other side.  Can't wait to be sat in the same chair, so to speak....

All the best, JM   ;D
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 23, 2009, 03:27:52 PM
I find it strange to say but the whole procedure was completely different to what I expected! I'll give you guys a brief outline now, but will make a proper diary with pics when I get home.

I was REALLY nervous this morning as I was admitted around 9:30 and spent until 12:30 in my recovery room waiting as Karidis was running late. I'm sure you can imagine what the tension was doing to me!

Finally went down in the end to get anaesthetised and remember the guy telling me things would get a bit dizzy, and I remember a feeling of just *falling away* from the world. Literally the next second I awoke as a nurse said my name. I was really groggy, feeling quite nauseous and my throat was killing!

Got sent up to my recovery room where my girlfriend helped me get lots of water and some fruit down me. :) As time goes on you start feeling much better. After around an hour I was fine apart from my throat really not feeling great. Strangely enough, my chest doesn't hurt in the slightest!

Chantelle (One of Karidis' nurses) told me 600ml of fat was removed in total and 18g of gland removed in one 'breast' (eugh ;D) and 20g in another. She told me that this was quite a lot as most patients only have around 3g on each side, but I'm not sure how true this is as I've seen people on here claim to have 50g!

I'm not going to lie, I genuinely felt really rough afterwards. Obviously the surgery and anaesthesia effect everyone differently and I was just one of those people it messed up a bit!

I'm glad that I did it though, I really am. Even with the compression garment on and all the bulk underneath it my chest looks slimmer under t-shirts! Even though I felt seriously buggered I was sooo happy at being able to walk around with a flat chest. The compression garment is skin coloured and hides 100% under my t-shirts, I would say. The best thing is walking around outside and not having anyone stare at my chest. :) *big smile*

I've taken all my meds and had some food so that's all sorted. I now intend to have a nice hot chocolate and relax in what is most possibly the nicest hotel room I've even been in ;D

Thanks guys for all your support. I'm on the other side now, and laden with relief. Any questions whatsoever ask away!
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: niguy13 on July 23, 2009, 06:59:50 PM
hi mate,

Jealous as hell you're on the other side now- i have to wait until October for mine :'(

What was the whole anesthesia part like? Did you walk to theatre and they knocked you out from there or what? Was it simply a case of the injection and then waking up?

Get some rest and get some before and after pics up when you get a chance..

Cheers !
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 24, 2009, 06:51:11 AM
Before you go down for surgery they ask you to get dressed into a blue surgery gown that in all honesty I'd find impossible to tie up at the back if it wasn't for my GF! Then you slip over a white dressing gown and some other surgery paraphinalia like anti-embolism socks to prevent you getting DVT and some little slipper things!

Then a nurse finally comes to call for you and takes you from your room to a special lift purely for taking people up and down from the theatre.

I was carted into a what I can only describe as a pre-surgery room where a friendly nurse talked to me for a bit and confirmed all my details. The anaesthetist then came in and asked me if I'd ever had anaesthesia before, which I have not! I also asked him what he was going to use, just out of curiosity ;D. He said he was using Propofol, which is the stuff that is linked to Michael Jackson's death apparently! Freaky.

Anyway, they put an IV in my left arm, then I noticed the anaesthetist working to my left, obviously preparing the syringe, which I think he then injected into me before saying "You might feel a little sleepy" and then I just remember the aforementioned feeling of just *falling away* from the world really peacefully and ... next thing I knew, I was in a different place with a female nurse saying my name and checking me over! I tried my hardest not to 'babble', and from what I can remember I succeeded! I instead just ended up going back to sleep over and over again! ;D

Well, I hope that answered your question niguy!
_________________________________________

As an update to everyone, throat pain has gone completely. Strepsils (throat losenges) last night totally saved my bacon and really helped with pain. Slept great and even found I could sleep on my side a bit! Woke up with a bit of a twinge in my chest and a bit of discomfort when walking around. Took all the meds the nurse has told me to, including painkillers, so I feel fine now.
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: thetodd on July 24, 2009, 09:54:20 AM
Before you go down for surgery they ask you to get dressed into a blue surgery gown that in all honesty I'd find impossible to tie up at the back if it wasn't for my GF! Then you slip over a white dressing gown and some other surgery paraphinalia like anti-embolism socks to prevent you getting DVT and some little slipper things!

Then a nurse finally comes to call for you and takes you from your room to a special lift purely for taking people up and down from the theatre.

I was carted into a what I can only describe as a pre-surgery room where a friendly nurse talked to me for a bit and confirmed all my details. The anaesthetist then came in and asked me if I'd ever had anaesthesia before, which I have not! I also asked him what he was going to use, just out of curiosity ;D. He said he was using Propofol, which is the stuff that is linked to Michael Jackson's death apparently! Freaky.

Anyway, they put an IV in my left arm, then I noticed the anaesthetist working to my left, obviously preparing the syringe, which I think he then injected into me before saying "You might feel a little sleepy" and then I just remember the aforementioned feeling of just *falling away* from the world really peacefully and ... next thing I knew, I was in a different place with a female nurse saying my name and checking me over! I tried my hardest not to 'babble', and from what I can remember I succeeded! I instead just ended up going back to sleep over and over again! ;D

Well, I hope that answered your question niguy!
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As an update to everyone, throat pain has gone completely. Strepsils (throat losenges) last night totally saved my bacon and really helped with pain. Slept great and even found I could sleep on my side a bit! Woke up with a bit of a twinge in my chest and a bit of discomfort when walking around. Took all the meds the nurse has told me to, including painkillers, so I feel fine now.

You will prob feel alot more croggy tommrow mate (not a lot), youve still got a lot of the anesthetic inside you. I only say that because some people get over confident and start overdoing it! Your going to be pleased at some point today when you take out the padding ... get some pictures then youl be buzzing!

Im not to sure about sleeping on your side though mate, i dont think your supposed to. Your meant to sleep elevated on your back, not to the side! Thats what i was told by Karidis's main nurse anyway
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 24, 2009, 01:39:40 PM
Cheers thetodd, I've been keeping myself as upright as possible but I'll try to sleep on my back from now on (as much as I hate it!).

As an update; I took my compression garment off for the first time today. Again, I'm so glad my GF was there. I fully experienced the 'orthostatic hypotension' thing mentioned in the post-op care guide. Basically, as soon as I took the garment off I started going really lightheaded and felt uber faint. After 15 mins or so of leaning over the bed I started feeling better and changed all the plasters. All I can say is WOW! I don't wanna toot my own horn but my chest looks incredible! Karidis is such a magician. I used to have such a horrible chest, but now I'm completely flat and my nipples stick out where they used to be inverted. Soooo happy! ;D

Had a shower, compression vest back on, resting again and really, REALLY happy with my chest. I feel like such a different person, and I'm wearing t-shirts that I wouldn't of dreamed of wearing a few days ago.

So. Worth. It.
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 26, 2009, 05:39:36 AM
Well its now 3 days post-op and also my birthday! Let me start by saying that sex is most definitely possible 2 days post-op! ;D

Things are going great, no pain, only slight discomfort, mobility isn't reduced too much (reaching above your head can be difficult at times). Its all gone completely textbook really and how I expected the post-op part to be!

Mentally, this is a strange journey. After the surgery, when you look down and witness your flat chest it's very odd. Happy, but odd. I've started to develop a feeling that I never had gyne, and that I've always had this flat chest that I've got now .. which for some reason makes me feel somewhat guilty as I feel like I should pay homage to the thing that's burdened me all these years.

On a final note; I turned 20 today, thus ending my teenage years. Gyne was a problem that started in my teens and it feels somewhat symbolic that as I am no longer a teenager I'm leaving this problem behind. Many people can't say the same thing and have carried on to suffer with gyne late into their life. My advice to anyone reading this and contemplating surgery, especially the younger crowd, is to just go for it. (If I hadn't of had the surgery now, I know I would have had it later in life, possibly with worse results as my skin elasticity would have reduced).

Do your homework, don't go for the cheapest or easiest to reach surgeon .. go for a PS who knows what he's doing and inspires confidence in you. I'm glad I did, and the £4000 I paid seems negligible for the freedom I now have.
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on July 26, 2009, 05:22:48 PM
Just for anyone subscribed to this thread, I've got some pictures posted up now @ http://www.gynecomastia.org/smf/index.php?topic=18539.0 (http://www.gynecomastia.org/smf/index.php?topic=18539.0).
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: merlot on July 27, 2009, 02:14:58 PM
Hey Frozen, just been catching up with your pics/experience.  Pics look great!  Keep up with the Arnica for a couple of weeks. I did plus the pineapple for a week. Very little swelling.   

Sounds like you had a pretty text box route through... now you can start ticking off the milestones week by week  ;D

As well as the Arnica, another useful homeopathic remedy for the internal scar tissue is calendula. Also Staphisagria if you get pain with it too.

Really well done fella. I'm nearly a month post this week, and it really does keep getting better and better!!
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: Nightmare on July 31, 2009, 05:05:30 PM


For swelling
PINEAPPLE, major healer for swelling get a load of chunks and pineapple juice it will do you a lot of good


you know what, i been eating pineapple for the past 2 days and my chest is getting more flatter in the last 2 days then the last 4 weeks. i dont know if its a coincidence , but  pineapple really do work. infact i am going to go buy atleast 5 more pineapple. why didnt i eat pineapple any sooner, i regret not eating it sooner.
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: Nightmare on August 02, 2009, 06:11:04 AM
you think i am messing around? haha
(http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af280/NightMareMB/pineapple.jpg)
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: frozen on August 02, 2009, 10:23:33 AM
Haha nice work mate :) 10 days post op and I'm still flat as a pancake, no swelling and bruising has pretty much gone! I can't believe how fast I'm recovering! I put it down to a mix of arnica, Bromelain pills (enzyme extracted from pineapples) and protein shakes. I'm on my phone at the moment so this is only a short post but I intend to do a proper update soon!
Title: Re: Surgery booked with Karidis - scared/nervous/excited!
Post by: Nightmare on August 03, 2009, 04:34:00 PM
Haha nice work mate :) 10 days post op and I'm still flat as a pancake, no swelling and bruising has pretty much gone! I can't believe how fast I'm recovering! I put it down to a mix of arnica, Bromelain pills (enzyme extracted from pineapples) and protein shakes. I'm on my phone at the moment so this is only a short post but I intend to do a proper update soon!

thats good to hear. Dr. Karidis is Da Man !!! you guys in the U.K are lucky.