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Title: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Shay on March 14, 2021, 03:18:58 PM
Hi there guys!

I am new here so apologies if I'm posting in the wrong forum.

I have always had big moobs but I noticed I have a roll under my right arm. ( a bit like what you see in women with a bra on). My left under arm is not so bad but not perfect. I went to some surgeon a few years ago and he said to try and lose weight and he believes I don't have it.

Do I have Gyno or pseudogynecomastia? I really would prefer a non surgical option so any advice would be much appreciated!

Than k you
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: JohannK on March 14, 2021, 03:33:36 PM
Welcome.

For a definitive answer, you can pinch the tissue around your nipples.  Do you feel any distinct lumps behind your nipples?  If so, those are mammary glands.  If you have developed glands, then it's true gyne and no amount of weight loss can get rid of them.  Losing weight will also likely cause your breasts to become more prominent.

So if you have true gyne then you have two options.  Lop them off (I personally don't believe in this, there's no such thing as risk-free surgery) or keep them.  If you choose to remove them, make sure to do your homework before going for any surgery.  If you keep them, it might be a good idea to start wearing bras.
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Shay on March 14, 2021, 05:52:14 PM
Sorry! Still trying to work this website out.

I pinched it and nothing seems to be there.

What are you opinions from the picture?
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: FredL on March 14, 2021, 06:50:23 PM
Yes, definitely gynecomastia. The only non-surgical option is to wear a garment to conceal and/or support your breasts (bra). No weight loss or exercise will make your boobs go away. 

If you don't want boobs for the rest of your life, post your pics in the Doctor section. Go to your family doctor and take it from there. 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: JohannK on March 15, 2021, 02:36:18 AM
Looking at the pictures it does look like gyne.

That said, the absense of glands that you can feel (and lack of puffyness in the pictures) tell me that it might be pseudogyne.  If it's pseudogyne then you might be able to get rid of them non surgically.  But of course I'm no doctor, this is just my observation.
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: SideSet on March 19, 2021, 06:05:56 PM
Yes, looks very much like gynecomastia to me. Your breasts have a definite female shape, quite round and full 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Dale Warnio on March 19, 2021, 11:09:49 PM
I agree. Quite pronounced and feminine, and except for your chest are quite slender. I am guessing your bra cup size is about B. 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Shay on March 20, 2021, 01:44:28 PM
I agree. Quite pronounced and feminine, and except for your chest are quite slender. I am guessing your bra cup size is about B.
I don't know the shapes of bra sizes but cup B seems big to me. It's not noticeable when I wear tight fitted T shirts that's for sure. Thanks for the input. 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Dale Warnio on March 20, 2021, 08:15:26 PM
B is a modest bra cup size. 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: SideSet on March 21, 2021, 08:35:14 AM
I would agree you are at least an A and maybe even a B cup. 

You can tell by measuring the circumference around your chest at the base of your breasts. And then measuring the circumference of your chest at its fullest part, across your nipples. 

The first measurement is your bra band size.  So, like 34, 36, 38, 40, etc. 

Then subtract the first measurement from the second measurement to get your bra cup size. 1”= A; 2”= B; 3”= C; etc, but you won’t be that big.  Yet 😉  
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Dale Warnio on March 21, 2021, 10:56:59 AM
 Or a simple way to think about it is to compare the size of your breasts to the size of various fruit.   As in the following link, lime or lemon, looks to me to be about your breast size so, A or B cup. 

https://www.guiltlingerie.com/pages/mens-buying-guide

Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: SideSet on March 22, 2021, 08:57:23 PM
Looking at your picture again, while you are quite slender, your breasts are so round and feminine in appearance.  A bra would really suit you. 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Teatree76 on April 18, 2021, 09:00:20 AM

Role of tamoxifen in idiopathic gynecomastia: A 10-year prospective cohort study. — Nuffield Department of Surgical Sciences (https://www.nds.ox.ac.uk/publications/904965)

See this recent study. I'm trying to see whether Tamoxifen is a better first option. 

CONCLUSION: Our study is the largest to date examining the role of tamoxifen in idiopathic gynecomastia, and our results show approximately nine in every 10 men treated with tamoxifen therapy had successful resolution of their symptoms. We support its use for idiopathic gynecomastia in eligible men following the careful discussion of its risks and benefits.
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Dudewithboobs on April 19, 2021, 11:25:12 AM
I’m going to take a left turn from most of the comments here. I will agree that they appear to be breasts in glandular and not pseudo/fat. You are quite thin and unless you were quite overweight and lost all of it over time then I’d be skeptical this is just fat tissue. I noticed you said you don’t feel anything. I also don’t feel much behind the nipple I would suggest pinching more so on the outer areas of the chest. In and outward. As well as alone the side of the rib and chest wall where my chest is raised you can definitely feel the lumps of tissue.  You should easily be able to define the tail and head of the tissue expanded. Also by the images you can clearly see where the chest forms and shows the area where the tissue has expanded. 

Here’s where I take a left turn. Too many here will say even if there’s a fraction of growth that yup you have t**ts get a bra. For me it’s a matter of,  do your breasts bounce jiggle cause pain or present discomfort? Are they sensitive to where shirts and such cause irritation or sense of sensitivity that causes consistent awareness of being rubbed or touched? Do they if none of the above simply just bother you in other ways that touch on areas more than just aesthetically? If you don’t want to spend 5-7k and pay for a surgeons kids new PlayStation or their next vacation while you sit in debt trying to pay it off just so a stranger doesn’t look at you for two seconds and forgets you in one then get a sports bra. It will compress without choking the life out of you like a compression vest would. If they bounce jiggle hurt or cause discomfort then I would be in agreement with others and shop for a few bras. If insecure in doing so go to a Walmart when they open and it’s fairly dead and onto the bra aisle grab a few and go to the fitting room. Rarely is there an attendant and you can take all the time in the world to try em on and take a common style shirt you wear so you can see how it may look in other shirts as well. 

In appearance I’d say based on images yes it looks like genuine gynecomastia. Do you need a bra? That is entirely subjective and of preference and only you can tell if you may benefit from one. But that wasn’t your question or what you were underlying asking and I’m sorry so many here always tell people like yourself you need or should get a bra. 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: taxmapper on April 19, 2021, 11:51:53 AM

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Here’s where I take a left turn. Too many here will say even if there’s a fraction of growth that yup you have t**ts get a bra. For me it’s a matter of,  do your breasts bounce jiggle cause pain or present discomfort? Are they sensitive to where shirts and such cause irritation or sense of sensitivity that causes consistent awareness of being rubbed or touched? Do they if none of the above simply just bother you in other ways that touch on areas more than just aesthetically? 
I have to agree with this. 


My breasts are still quite small in comparison but growing. I can feel that growth daily, from the odd pop-rock sensation to some level pushing sensation I know that mine will get larger. 

Mine have started to bounce to the point of real pain. I have chickens and had to chase them around the other day with a goodly amount of sharp downward pulling that felt like someone ripping my skin off. 

If they have no feeling of pain, then it would be more of aesthetics as mentioned. That's your choice. 

IMO you do have breasts growing and will probably continue to grow. 
You also have a larger overall area of shape that I see that may or may not continue to grow larger. of that only god knows.  But if pain does in fact start to set in ESPECIALLY with any amount of growth, then a bra may in fact be in order. 

But again its your choice and only you can choose to wear or not. 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Dudewithboobs on April 19, 2021, 01:15:18 PM
The pop rock sensation ugh perfect description lol same here. I feel almost weekly to bi weekly I feel tingles and pop rock sensations as I’ll now describe it, thank you. And I’d agree area that looks like it may fill in is very real to my opinion. I remember seeing a contour in my chest on the inside and it just looked softer even though it was flat and was a little spongy but didn’t feel tissue. I wrote it off as mehhh about a month later it was filling in. It was almost like my chest was making space for what was coming. 

Like you I’m not busty by any means but things are to a point where they bounce jiggle and when I run I feel them not just in motion but shirts pressing very much more against them than before. For this though not painful I’ve began wearing bras to contain and maintain. Every day activity walking etc I don’t need one and often I may not. Depends on mood and if they feel they need one for the day. 

For the user posting, I notice you say they don’t look anywhere near a b cup or large as it may be for one. Who knows bras are often wrong until we take a true measurement. You don’t need a professional fitting for this. I personally find a tailors tape around the under bust and over bust and adding a cup per inch can get you damn close or perfect each time. Just takes a few moments and tries to adjust straps and scoop and swoop to know. A pro will know immediately but you can figure it out if you got some time. Essentially 34 under 35 over A cup, 34 under 36 over B cup and so forth. The tricky part is if the cups are just right but the band isn’t exact and Vice versa I know they make half sizes for that reason and others I’m sure but for me it’s like getting an 11.5 instead 11 shoe. I need the 11 but 11.5 isn’t going to make much of a difference. Now those who are D E and so forth cups may attest to that differently as I’m sure the larger and heavier they may become the diff is insanely beneficial and mindful. 

You would be surprised though especially being male as men typically either have shallower or wider spread breast roots. That a cup size can take your breath a little when you try it on and go from yeah right to just right. I remember my last growth spurt I could feel the difference and my a cup bras just felt weird. I wasn’t spilling out but they def were smooshed a bit. I went to Walmart picked up a 36B looked at the cups and went doubt it. Grabbed a few brands I liked tried them all on adjusted scoop swooped stood up and stuck my arms out and no room. Bare chested my chest looks soft with a little curve and sticks out like yours in the side picture but not as defined as in your frontal. But sitting down or leaning forward tells a very different tale lol. 
Volume over rides size in my opinion on male breasts. Our wider chests can grow the same amount of tissue a woman’s can but the appearance can be vastly different due to that same volume different display same bra size if that makes sense. 

Idk to end the ramble I’d say breasts are like mirrors. Objects may be larger than they appear.  
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: felix on April 19, 2021, 06:06:34 PM
What Dudewithboobs said.  They may be larger than they appear.

On their own, my breasts don't look all that big but when I swoop and scoop the underarm boob into an underwire bra, a 42C actually fits.  When I hang up a bra to dry, I look at the cups and think there is no way I could be filling those, but I do.  My wife also wears a 42C but her breasts look entirely different than mine do.  And yes, I do occasionally borrow one of her bras.  She just bought a bunch of new Bali underwires I can't wait to try out.
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Traveler on April 19, 2021, 06:32:48 PM
I also get that “there’s no way I’m that big” thoughts, until I put on my bra and totally fill it out. Male breasts are different, but putting them in a bra that’s meant to lift and shape, actually lifts and shapes. I think because we fill the sides out more than the middle causes us to minimize our actual volume. YMMV 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: p.r.1974 on April 20, 2021, 03:12:06 PM
I here the "No way that I fill that" thought. Being in a 46C, and then a 44D with weight loss has been a challenge to wrap my head around.
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: SideSet on April 20, 2021, 06:19:23 PM
Exactly.  Many, including ourselves,  end up being very surprised at how big our bra cup sizes are. 

 I remember checking out one time and the sales associate at the register being very impressed and a bit surprised that I was a DDD.   The sales associate who had helped me in the fitting room said to the sales associate at the register, yes, he completely filled those DDD cups;  The bra just seemed to gather up everything and put it right in the cups of his bra. 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Dale Warnio on April 20, 2021, 09:11:40 PM
 While a lot of the people posting here may not be DDD,  they probably are bigger than they think, and in need of wearing a bra 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: curiousk on April 21, 2021, 06:28:25 AM
I agree that a need for support is a need for support.  I remember as a teenager or young adult thinking that any cup size bigger than a D was gigantic.  Now I realize that breast size and cup size don't always line up.  Sometimes it does though.   I'm a 42C or 40D in most of the bras I wear, but I wouldn't call my breasts huge.  They are definitely big enough to need support, but I find that I don't pay a lot of attention to my size except when I'm shopping for a new bra.  
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: SideSet on April 21, 2021, 08:11:01 AM
 I agree about breast size and sometimes being misleading. 

I know way back when I was a B cup, I definitely had breasts that I couldn’t fully hide, But I didn’t fully need the support of a bra, although it felt better getting that support.

There comes a point where it’s essential to wear a bra both for comfort and appearance. In my opinion, that is a C cup, as by the time you are a D cup, it really isn’t up for debate: you need to wear a bra
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Dale Warnio on April 21, 2021, 11:25:40 AM
C or above too big to go braless. 

In my opinion many women, and people here, underestimate bra sizes
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: Dudewithboobs on April 21, 2021, 03:48:30 PM
Side set is right about not needing a bra but feeling better with one. I’m a mild b cup. My breasts are a mild to fill b cup. My shape and size shirtless if standing definitely don’t look like all the google image of b cups when I was freaking out and wondering what I’m gonna look like if I fill a next cup size. But sitting or leaning over yeah they aren’t helping me not draw a stare I’d assume lol and running or other active motions I can feel jiggles and slight bounce. It isn’t bad or painful it’s just annoying. So while I don’t NEED a bra I WANT a bra for personal preference and personal comfort. 
Title: Re: Do I have Gyno?
Post by: brock123 on April 22, 2021, 12:25:08 AM
For what it may be worth, I basically look like you do, Shay.  As @Dudewithboobs and @SideSet have been pointing out, your decision really comes down to comfort.  If you are generally comfortable with your appearance and just want to "hide" things a bit, there are garment options available outside of surgery.  If you want to be rid of and "over and done" with this, surgery is the only way to go.

I'm not getting the impression that you have had an honest and open talk with a physician about your condition yet?  There are lots of things that can cause a man's breasts to enlarge, and not all of them require surgery to correct.  It may indeed be a permanent thing without surgery, but it may also be as simple as cutting back and/or eliminating something you ingest that is causing a hormonal problem for your "system".

I happen to be a "pseudo" case myself; I have been examined, poked and prodded, mammogramed, etc., many times to date, and the result has never changed -- I just tend to store fat in my chest and belly more than other men apparently do.  If you've heard the phrase "Chocolate goes straight to my thighs", my equivalent is "Chocolate goes straight to my chest" :)

I have a dresser drawer that has both Female and Male "garments" in it -- I have Male compression garments in there and I also have Female bras/"camis" in there.  Due to the pandemic not many of them have been worn in the past year in order to give you any kind of accurate assessment, but if it helps …


  • Female garments generally have less compression and more "shaping" than their male counterpart garments in the chest area, and like to favor the small "spaghetti straps" that are not commonly associated with men
  • If your breast tissue is very wide-set (common), anything you try on will probably hurt you under the arms and it's too small for you; return and order up the size.

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