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Offline zoso495

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Hi guys Im new to this site and I suffer with moobs.... I can remember my chest feeling sore when I was about 13, then all the sudden within a year the came.. I was out of major shape in my teens now Im 22 and workout with weights 4 days a week. I stricklty workout for strenght. Now I try to diet now, then one week I fall apart and relaps with fatty food again. I try to cook skinless non fried chicken on a daily bases with corn. But some days I just fall apart like this week and last. I work out for about 1 1/15 to 2 hours. So I feel good. Im now comfortable with my boobs, but a few years back I wasn't. I'm trying to now reduce then or shape them to be more muscular. Although I really don't work on my chest or my abdominal area. Here are some pics. I will accpet all comments from anyone...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1180/grabbedframe1.png
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9610/grabbedframe2.png
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9821/grabbedframe3.png
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9593/grabbedframe4.png
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6429/grabbedframe5.png
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4305/grabbedframe16.png

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Offline zoso495

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Hi guys Im new to this site and I suffer with moobs.... I can remember my chest feeling sore when I was about 13, then all the sudden within a year the came.. I was out of major shape in my teens now Im 22 and workout with weights 4 days a week. I stricklty workout for strenght. Now I try to diet now, then one week I fall apart and relaps with fatty food again. I try to cook skinless non fried chicken on a daily bases with corn. But some days I just fall apart like this week and last. I work out for about 1 1/15 to 2 hours. So I feel good. Im now comfortable with my boobs, but a few years back I wasn't. I'm trying to now reduce then or shape them to be more muscular. Although I really don't work on my chest or my abdominal area. Here are some pics. I will accpet all comments from anyone...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1180/grabbedframe1.png
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9610/grabbedframe2.png
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9821/grabbedframe3.png
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9593/grabbedframe4.png
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6429/grabbedframe5.png
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4305/grabbedframe16.png


Btw im 6'3 289lbs

13genof

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maybe both but a doctor can tell you if you have gynecomastia or not, they will have a chance to examine you, no one on here has that ability, they only give you their opinion, they may be right or not, go to your doctor and ask him or her if you have regular gynecomastia or pseudo.

Good luck
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Offline zoso495

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Thanks for the advice. I will make a trip to see the doc soon.

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Hi guys Im new to this site and I suffer with moobs.... I can remember my chest feeling sore when I was about 13, then all the sudden within a year the came.. I was out of major shape in my teens now Im 22 and workout with weights 4 days a week. I stricklty workout for strenght. Now I try to diet now, then one week I fall apart and relaps with fatty food again. I try to cook skinless non fried chicken on a daily bases with corn. But some days I just fall apart like this week and last. I work out for about 1 1/15 to 2 hours. So I feel good. Im now comfortable with my boobs, but a few years back I wasn't. I'm trying to now reduce then or shape them to be more muscular. Although I really don't work on my chest or my abdominal area. Here are some pics. I will accpet all comments from anyone...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1180/grabbedframe1.png
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9610/grabbedframe2.png
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9821/grabbedframe3.png
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9593/grabbedframe4.png
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6429/grabbedframe5.png
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4305/grabbedframe16.png

"Fat or Gyno" is a frequent question here, but misses the point.  Gynecomastia is a contour problem.  All male mammals with have gland.  All fat men and women have big breasts. Unfortunately, it can be difficult to distinguish just what is causing the problem.  Gynecomastia male breasts can be fat, gland, or most commonly a combination of both.  Sometimes skin and sagging tissues can be a factor. Pseudogynecomastia is a bad term that is supposed to be fat only gynecomastia. The problem with that "classification" is that in almost every case of gynecomastia I have seen there is some component of gland.  This gland can be very small, but it is present almost all the time.  So do you have Pseudo gynecomastia when there is a 1%, 10%, 50%, or 90% deformity from fat?  Reality just does not work that way.

Defining the problem with photographs sometimes can help.  However, it is impossible to tell from photographs if the deformity is from fat or gland. The dynamic images, of my standard set of images can show a region that compresses differently.  Even clinical examination differentiation can be difficult.

Fat tends to be soft, gland tends to be firm.  Fingers of gland often dissect between fingers of fat.  Look at this drawing and move your mouse over the arrows.  However, gland can be soft and fat firm confusing the picture.  Gland tends to be located under the nipple and pinching pressure can sometimes tether to the nipple pulling it in.

Men with excessive fat do tend to have certain contour issues.  Check out this link about Sumo Wrestlers.  Men tend to carry excessive weight in their chest and stomach.
Wearing the extra fat is not healthy.  Check out your risks with a BMI Calculator (Body Mass Index).

Unfortunately, BMI does not take into account muscle mass vs. fat.  Body Fat Analyzers can help define that issue.

Plastic surgery is better after weight loss, losing weight is a coarse tool. Plastic surgery is better used for refinement.

Weight Loss, Dealing With Excess Skin of the Chest and Body is also a major emotional issue. 

We have many patients, family members, and parents who have raved how a compression garment can really help while waiting for surgery or until stabilization of a problem.  However, I have found not all compression garments work as well.

Body shaping garments are a good temporary contouring solution.  They do not help remove or treat gynecomastia.  When the garment is removed, the gynecomastia is still there.  They can provide an emotional band-aid for the stress of contour issues and bouncing tissues.

Non-Surgical Body Shaping for Gynecomastia

Check out the multiple views for each patient. Clink on the links to see other views of the garment and features of this design I prefer.  We have tried many other brands and none seem to come close to what this one offers.

Losing weight first, to something you are comfortable with and can maintain is typically a much better option.  Weight loss is a coarse tool.  Unfortunately, you cannot pick where weight comes from - nor can you pick where weight goes back on to.  Gland that contributes to the breast shape is not helped with weight loss.  Fingers of fat in the gland can become smaller, but the contour problem from gland does not go away.  After losing weight plastic surgery can help with localized fat, gland, and extra skin.  After surgery remaining fat cells can put on more weight.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
Learn More About Gynecomastia and Chest Surgery

Offline haisook

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Welcome here zoso495,

Your current BMI, based on your included height & weight, is 36.1, which defines the state of Obesity. I'm sure that by losing weight and getting into the realm of your normal BMI (18.5-24.9), this condition will no more be. Strict dieting and vigorous exercise is the solution. Could take a lot of time and hard work, but it'll be worth it.

Know your BMI from here:
http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

Good luck.
I'm a medical student with gynecomastia. Yeah, medical professionals get it too.

Offline GB07

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Hey zoso495,

Thanks for sharing your pic's. From your BMI calculation that haisook did for you it does look like you are going to have to lose some weight.

It can be hard, but you just have to stay disciplined (easier said than done I know).

Set yourself a new target and use this forum as a support tool to track your progress and motivate you!

Good luck,

Kahuna

13genof

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Hi guys Im new to this site and I suffer with moobs.... I can remember my chest feeling sore when I was about 13, then all the sudden within a year the came.. I was out of major shape in my teens now Im 22 and workout with weights 4 days a week. I stricklty workout for strenght. Now I try to diet now, then one week I fall apart and relaps with fatty food again. I try to cook skinless non fried chicken on a daily bases with corn. But some days I just fall apart like this week and last. I work out for about 1 1/15 to 2 hours. So I feel good. Im now comfortable with my boobs, but a few years back I wasn't. I'm trying to now reduce then or shape them to be more muscular. Although I really don't work on my chest or my abdominal area. Here are some pics. I will accpet all comments from anyone...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1180/grabbedframe1.png
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9610/grabbedframe2.png
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9821/grabbedframe3.png
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9593/grabbedframe4.png
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6429/grabbedframe5.png
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4305/grabbedframe16.png

"Fat or Gyno" is a frequent question here, but misses the point.  Gynecomastia is a contour problem.  All male mammals with have gland.  All fat men and women have big breasts. Unfortunately, it can be difficult to distinguish just what is causing the problem.  Gynecomastia male breasts can be fat, gland, or most commonly a combination of both.  Sometimes skin and sagging tissues can be a factor. Pseudogynecomastia is a bad term that is supposed to be fat only gynecomastia. The problem with that "classification" is that in almost every case of gynecomastia I have seen there is some component of gland.  This gland can be very small, but it is present almost all the time.  So do you have Pseudo gynecomastia when there is a 1%, 10%, 50%, or 90% deformity from fat?  Reality just does not work that way.

Defining the problem with photographs sometimes can help.  However, it is impossible to tell from photographs if the deformity is from fat or gland. The dynamic images, of my standard set of images can show a region that compresses differently.  Even clinical examination differentiation can be difficult.

Fat tends to be soft, gland tends to be firm.  Fingers of gland often dissect between fingers of fat.  Look at this drawing and move your mouse over the arrows.  However, gland can be soft and fat firm confusing the picture.  Gland tends to be located under the nipple and pinching pressure can sometimes tether to the nipple pulling it in.

Men with excessive fat do tend to have certain contour issues.  Check out this link about Sumo Wrestlers.  Men tend to carry excessive weight in their chest and stomach.
Wearing the extra fat is not healthy.  Check out your risks with a BMI Calculator (Body Mass Index).

Unfortunately, BMI does not take into account muscle mass vs. fat.  Body Fat Analyzers can help define that issue.

Plastic surgery is better after weight loss, losing weight is a coarse tool. Plastic surgery is better used for refinement.

Weight Loss, Dealing With Excess Skin of the Chest and Body is also a major emotional issue. 

We have many patients, family members, and parents who have raved how a compression garment can really help while waiting for surgery or until stabilization of a problem.  However, I have found not all compression garments work as well.

Body shaping garments are a good temporary contouring solution.  They do not help remove or treat gynecomastia.  When the garment is removed, the gynecomastia is still there.  They can provide an emotional band-aid for the stress of contour issues and bouncing tissues.

Non-Surgical Body Shaping for Gynecomastia

Check out the multiple views for each patient. Clink on the links to see other views of the garment and features of this design I prefer.  We have tried many other brands and none seem to come close to what this one offers.

Losing weight first, to something you are comfortable with and can maintain is typically a much better option.  Weight loss is a coarse tool.  Unfortunately, you cannot pick where weight comes from - nor can you pick where weight goes back on to.  Gland that contributes to the breast shape is not helped with weight loss.  Fingers of fat in the gland can become smaller, but the contour problem from gland does not go away.  After losing weight plastic surgery can help with localized fat, gland, and extra skin.  After surgery remaining fat cells can put on more weight.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
Learn More About Gynecomastia and Chest Surgery

13genof

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Hi guys Im new to this site and I suffer with moobs.... I can remember my chest feeling sore when I was about 13, then all the sudden within a year the came.. I was out of major shape in my teens now Im 22 and workout with weights 4 days a week. I stricklty workout for strenght. Now I try to diet now, then one week I fall apart and relaps with fatty food again. I try to cook skinless non fried chicken on a daily bases with corn. But some days I just fall apart like this week and last. I work out for about 1 1/15 to 2 hours. So I feel good. Im now comfortable with my boobs, but a few years back I wasn't. I'm trying to now reduce then or shape them to be more muscular. Although I really don't work on my chest or my abdominal area. Here are some pics. I will accpet all comments from anyone...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1180/grabbedframe1.png
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9610/grabbedframe2.png
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9821/grabbedframe3.png
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9593/grabbedframe4.png
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6429/grabbedframe5.png
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4305/grabbedframe16.png

"Fat or Gyno" is a frequent question here, but misses the point.  Gynecomastia is a contour problem.  All male mammals with have gland.  All fat men and women have big breasts. Unfortunately, it can be difficult to distinguish just what is causing the problem.  Gynecomastia male breasts can be fat, gland, or most commonly a combination of both.  Sometimes skin and sagging tissues can be a factor. Pseudogynecomastia is a bad term that is supposed to be fat only gynecomastia. The problem with that "classification" is that in almost every case of gynecomastia I have seen there is some component of gland.  This gland can be very small, but it is present almost all the time.  So do you have Pseudo gynecomastia when there is a 1%, 10%, 50%, or 90% deformity from fat?  Reality just does not work that way.

Defining the problem with photographs sometimes can help.  However, it is impossible to tell from photographs if the deformity is from fat or gland. The dynamic images, of my standard set of images can show a region that compresses differently.  Even clinical examination differentiation can be difficult.

Fat tends to be soft, gland tends to be firm.  Fingers of gland often dissect between fingers of fat.  Look at this drawing and move your mouse over the arrows.  However, gland can be soft and fat firm confusing the picture.  Gland tends to be located under the nipple and pinching pressure can sometimes tether to the nipple pulling it in.

Men with excessive fat do tend to have certain contour issues.  Check out this link about Sumo Wrestlers.  Men tend to carry excessive weight in their chest and stomach.
Wearing the extra fat is not healthy.  Check out your risks with a BMI Calculator (Body Mass Index).

Unfortunately, BMI does not take into account muscle mass vs. fat.  Body Fat Analyzers can help define that issue.

Plastic surgery is better after weight loss, losing weight is a coarse tool. Plastic surgery is better used for refinement.

Weight Loss, Dealing With Excess Skin of the Chest and Body is also a major emotional issue. 

We have many patients, family members, and parents who have raved how a compression garment can really help while waiting for surgery or until stabilization of a problem.  However, I have found not all compression garments work as well.

Body shaping garments are a good temporary contouring solution.  They do not help remove or treat gynecomastia.  When the garment is removed, the gynecomastia is still there.  They can provide an emotional band-aid for the stress of contour issues and bouncing tissues.

Non-Surgical Body Shaping for Gynecomastia

Check out the multiple views for each patient. Clink on the links to see other views of the garment and features of this design I prefer.  We have tried many other brands and none seem to come close to what this one offers.

Losing weight first, to something you are comfortable with and can maintain is typically a much better option.  Weight loss is a coarse tool.  Unfortunately, you cannot pick where weight comes from - nor can you pick where weight goes back on to.  Gland that contributes to the breast shape is not helped with weight loss.  Fingers of fat in the gland can become smaller, but the contour problem from gland does not go away.  After losing weight plastic surgery can help with localized fat, gland, and extra skin.  After surgery remaining fat cells can put on more weight.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
Learn More About Gynecomastia and Chest Surgery


Dr. Bermant did you just say that all male mamals have BREAST???  So all males have some form of gynecomastia it just isn't developed in all men. 

DrBermant

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Hi guys Im new to this site and I suffer with moobs.... I can remember my chest feeling sore when I was about 13, then all the sudden within a year the came.. I was out of major shape in my teens now Im 22 and workout with weights 4 days a week. I stricklty workout for strenght. Now I try to diet now, then one week I fall apart and relaps with fatty food again. I try to cook skinless non fried chicken on a daily bases with corn. But some days I just fall apart like this week and last. I work out for about 1 1/15 to 2 hours. So I feel good. Im now comfortable with my boobs, but a few years back I wasn't. I'm trying to now reduce then or shape them to be more muscular. Although I really don't work on my chest or my abdominal area. Here are some pics. I will accpet all comments from anyone...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1180/grabbedframe1.png
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9610/grabbedframe2.png
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9821/grabbedframe3.png
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9593/grabbedframe4.png
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6429/grabbedframe5.png
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4305/grabbedframe16.png

"Fat or Gyno" is a frequent question here, but misses the point.  Gynecomastia is a contour problem.  All male mammals will have gland.  All fat men and women have big breasts. Unfortunately, it can be difficult to distinguish just what is causing the problem.  Gynecomastia male breasts can be fat, gland, or most commonly a combination of both.  Sometimes skin and sagging tissues can be a factor. Pseudogynecomastia is a bad term that is supposed to be fat only gynecomastia. The problem with that "classification" is that in almost every case of gynecomastia I have seen there is some component of gland.  This gland can be very small, but it is present almost all the time.  So do you have Pseudo gynecomastia when there is a 1%, 10%, 50%, or 90% deformity from fat?  Reality just does not work that way.

Defining the problem with photographs sometimes can help.  However, it is impossible to tell from photographs if the deformity is from fat or gland. The dynamic images, of my standard set of images can show a region that compresses differently.  Even clinical examination differentiation can be difficult.

Fat tends to be soft, gland tends to be firm.  Fingers of gland often dissect between fingers of fat.  Look at this drawing and move your mouse over the arrows.  However, gland can be soft and fat firm confusing the picture.  Gland tends to be located under the nipple and pinching pressure can sometimes tether to the nipple pulling it in.

Men with excessive fat do tend to have certain contour issues.  Check out this link about Sumo Wrestlers.  Men tend to carry excessive weight in their chest and stomach.
Wearing the extra fat is not healthy.  Check out your risks with a BMI Calculator (Body Mass Index).

Unfortunately, BMI does not take into account muscle mass vs. fat.  Body Fat Analyzers can help define that issue.

Plastic surgery is better after weight loss, losing weight is a coarse tool. Plastic surgery is better used for refinement.

Weight Loss, Dealing With Excess Skin of the Chest and Body is also a major emotional issue. 

We have many patients, family members, and parents who have raved how a compression garment can really help while waiting for surgery or until stabilization of a problem.  However, I have found not all compression garments work as well.

Body shaping garments are a good temporary contouring solution.  They do not help remove or treat gynecomastia.  When the garment is removed, the gynecomastia is still there.  They can provide an emotional band-aid for the stress of contour issues and bouncing tissues.

Non-Surgical Body Shaping for Gynecomastia

Check out the multiple views for each patient. Clink on the links to see other views of the garment and features of this design I prefer.  We have tried many other brands and none seem to come close to what this one offers.

Losing weight first, to something you are comfortable with and can maintain is typically a much better option.  Weight loss is a coarse tool.  Unfortunately, you cannot pick where weight comes from - nor can you pick where weight goes back on to.  Gland that contributes to the breast shape is not helped with weight loss.  Fingers of fat in the gland can become smaller, but the contour problem from gland does not go away.  After losing weight plastic surgery can help with localized fat, gland, and extra skin.  After surgery remaining fat cells can put on more weight.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
Learn More About Gynecomastia and Chest Surgery


Dr. Bermant did you just say that all male mamals have BREAST???  So all males have some form of gynecomastia it just isn't developed in all men. 

Sorry about that typo. Yes all mammals have breast gland, both male and female. It goes with the species.  Men with female shaped breasts have gynecomastia, not those with normal amounts of gland that do not result in a female contour problem.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
Learn More About Gynecomastia and Male Breast Reduction


 

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